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STUDENT 07-30-2010 06:28 PM

Foot brake with or without 2 step
 
I am new to the stock eliminator world. I am unsure what will work better.

Leaving the staring line with or without the use of the 2 step.
Pro and cons please both in performance and reaction time.

I have raced many stick cars, this will be the first automatic car without a transbrake.

Thanks for the help.

Alan Roehrich 07-30-2010 07:06 PM

Re: Foot brake with or without 2 step
 
It depends a great deal on the style of the driver and the car he is driving.

Patrick Kelliher 07-30-2010 07:16 PM

Re: Foot brake with or without 2 step
 
My reaction times improved dramatically since removing the 2-step. Some people can't live without it. Honestly the only way to know is to try both methods yourself.

gmonde 07-30-2010 08:52 PM

Re: Foot brake with or without 2 step
 
the two step can help or hinder,,,,if your racing a lower class car that has leaves easy working off the two step may help you reaction time,but on the other hand if you have a spot on the bottom bulb where you are constistant with just foot braking and you are good there ,,be carefull you might find yourself going red, if you two step off the brake pedal, its easy to let off a loaded brake pedal that it is to plant the right foot ,,test to see ,,the only reason i use it ,is for the stock carb is not consistant leaving foot braking ,,,if your combo has using a holley dp or even a q-jet keep foot braking ,,gmonde

Ed Fernandez 07-30-2010 09:56 PM

Re: Foot brake with or without 2 step
 
I just put one in.I'll let you know on Aug. 22nd how it worked.:>):>)

jim powers 07-31-2010 09:05 AM

Re: Foot brake with or without 2 step
 
ed, your such a liar !!!!!you know it works killer!!

Jim Rodgers 05-16-2011 04:42 PM

Re: Foot brake with or without 2 step
 
How do you set up a 2 step with foot brake? Is there a performance advantage to using a 2 step with foot brake?

Bob Pagano 05-16-2011 05:02 PM

Re: Foot brake with or without 2 step
 
Good info in this thread Jim.

http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=33374

Richard Grant 05-16-2011 05:17 PM

Re: Foot brake with or without 2 step
 
You will only find out which way is best by installing the two step and trying both ways.
No matter what anyone tells you they can only comment on their car and their driving style. You have to try for you self to know the correct answer.

Eric Merryfield 05-17-2011 08:27 AM

Re: Foot brake with or without 2 step
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by STUDENT (Post 201499)
I am new to the stock eliminator world. I am unsure what will work better.

Leaving the staring line with or without the use of the 2 step.
Pro and cons please both in performance and reaction time.

I have raced many stick cars, this will be the first automatic car without a transbrake.

Thanks for the help.

Keep it simple.....footbrake till your driving style or car proves it to you that you need to spend the time effort and dough on a two step......Since your suspension hasn't been preloaded before(stick/trans brake) concentrate on getting that right first with decent 60 foot times, etc. I have done it both ways, footbraking is more adjustable and the method of choice for quite a few world champions....But until you/car prove its needed, go off the brake pressure gauge and your bored clutch foot.

Good luck, I am going the other direction soon on my favorite car.

Eric

Sean Kennedy 05-19-2011 04:17 PM

Re: Foot brake with or without 2 step
 
I agree with the above, try both methods. But don't completely give up on your two-step until you have it setup properly. The only way to do it right, according to a lot smarter people than me, is to run a brake pressure sensor instead of a button, and to use a brake pressure gauge. This way you can stage at the exact same pressure every time. You can add or subtract pressure to increase or decrease your reaction time. If you get an adjustable pressure sensor as well, than you are really good to go and have a lot of options.

But still... even with all that.... I'm just as consistent with the footbrake. It depends on what works for you.

Ryan Horensky 05-21-2011 11:48 PM

Re: Foot brake with or without 2 step
 
I've used both and prefer the footbrake. It also depends if you are only going to race stock or if you're going to do some bracket racing too. I use the footbrake because I do bracket race quite a bit. When I run pro eliminator the quickest cars are 9.00, which is comparable to stock/super stock racing. If you run the two-step at local tracks you're gonna be looking over your shoulder at alot of 7 second dragsters for sure. I also don't have to change my driving style when I do race stock. Every run down the track is the same regardless if I'm running stock or brackets. If you only plan on running stock it doesn't matter as much whether you use the footbrake or two-step. I would still give both a shot and see which you are more comfortable with.


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