bump steer kits, legal or not
 

I've heard that bump steer kits are not legal in stock, but I continually see pictures of cars with them. Anyone have a definitive answer?

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I inquired about this ..........D1 tech told me absolutly no to heims and spacers in Stock, Yes in SS. ......When I called FJ Smith to order one of his F body kits that uses a stock type tie rod end ,he told me there is a lot of confusion as to the legality of the heim and spacer kits, especially in D2................BTW , FJ's kit does the job ,still some bump, but within reason. ......Tom

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Travis from Division 3 told us absolutely no in stock!

Yet, I see several late model "F" body GM stockers with them.
:confused:

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Outside of the confusion --division to division--wouldn't a bump steer kit be considered a safety item considering most of the cars wheelstand. Is it because it just another thing to check as far as quality of the heim joints ( as we all know there is good and there is just cheap ). Or is it something they picked so as keep the price of a stocker down and if thats the case they blew it with the camshafts. Me , myself, when it comes to steering, i want the best and I believe the other drivers would feel the same way.:eek:

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Or some people should avoid driving race cars that have rules which they are not comfortable with!

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Where exactly in the rule book does it state that they are a prohibited item? Have these tech guys pointed this out, or is it just their opinion?

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I installed a bump steer kit on a Stock Eliminator Firebird for a Division IV racer this winter and he assured me that he had Wesley's blessing to do so.

Jimmy Parker

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i don't know about "bump steer kits", but it seems a little ridiculous that some tech guy/ wanna be cop, says they are ilegal, when most late-model f-bodies use a pinto rack. the pinto rack, having been approved for stock way back when there was also the '98 LT-1 thing and the narrowed rear. too late to change now. those were all factory pontiac things, just like the stuff ford and mopar are pushing with the cobra jet and drag pack.

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It does not say they are prohibited.
It does say under stock section:

POWER STEERING
May be removed or converted to manual steering. See General
Regulations 3:3.

SUSPENSION, Front
Must retain complete stock front suspension system as produced
by manufacturer for body used. Lift kits/travel limiters prohibited.
Sway bar optional. See General Regulations 3:4.

And under general regulations is says:

3:3 STEERING
Each car’s steering system must be secure and free of defects. All
butt-welded parts must have additional visible reinforcement. Only
conventional automotive steering systems are permitted; flexible
steering shafts prohibited. Rear-wheel steering prohibited, unless
vehicle was originally manufactured with an OEM system. An OEM
system may not be modified, altered, or used in any manner
inconsistent with manufacturer’s specifications.

PLEASE tell me what vehicle came with an OEM or factory production or conventional automotive steering system that had a bump steer kit on it.

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Until the rule book states "no heims" in the steering system, I will argue with any tech guy out there that they are legal.

Does this same thought apply to say caster/camber plates?

What about modified spindles to allow aftermarket brakes to be used?

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I don't believe you can replace the strut rod rubbers on early Chevy II's with Heim joints, can you?
I think you can now in S/S ,because you're racing against the GT FWD conversions.

That would be a safety item one could argue "for" , too.

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Does anybody sell a complete "bump steer kit" for A-body Mopars for Super Stock?

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Mark, The Ford guys can not do anything to their strut rods in Stock, ever see one let go ? not pretty,

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On the newer cars, the placement height of the rack is very important to be able to achieve acceptable geometery. With that said, I've seen plenty of spacers and heims on some very fast and winning stockers. Is it legal? Who knows?

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So are spacers and heim joints legal in division 7? or do you just heat and bend to get the correct bump steer? got to what wonder which one is safer?