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I see that Mark Nowicki was in gt/ea in Martin Mich, what motor is that. very impressive

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318 4brl

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Might be something different.

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I think your right Jeff, might be Mopar crate engine ...

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How abut that 5.9 fuel injected crate motor. heard it made over 700hp on Jeff Taylor's dyno. Now you Super Stock guys are going to find out about the crate motors.

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Ha, ha got to love rumors!!!



Yes it is the new 5.9L 360 ci mopar Drag pak engine.

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360 cu in, FI... Aluminum Head w/ 182 cc intake runner, 82 exhaust runner, 56 cc combustion chamber on a flat top, 2.02 intake valve, 1.60 exhaust valve and a 1000 cfm throttle body.( Rated @ 275) WOW, what a piece...... Nice selection Mark !

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And NOW it begins...............More to come !

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Same motor we ran in Indy last year. Nothing new. I guess every motor in a GT car is a crate motor. None of them run with the motor they came with. I guess it's ok if it's a bowtie.

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Jeff,

I'm wondering which Mopar body I can run that engine in as a conventional Superstocker, ie., not a GT car?

Jerry

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ya that is fast and alot more left i bet, just remember the name Denny Steward, he can make them dodges fly, nice work Mark and Denny, see ya's at Indy

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Great selection Mark, rumor has it that Teuton is putting this combo in a GT car. Why bring a knief to a gun fight. LOL

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Jerry

The motor came in the 09 challenger drag pak.

Can't wait until mine is ready!

Tom

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He already has, read his post ...

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That motor came in a DP car. I have one, still intact. If I were building a SS DP, I would start with a wreck sorta like Conutry Dog does because you are going to modify them so much, it would be a lot cheaper. With the 360, it is a natural SS/JA car. I ran mine in SS/KA cause I'm fat. We got a new 360 for this year for the Duster in GT that Kevin is gonna drive. Should be on the dyno Friday. We will also freshen the old motor which is a Top Stock motor that I recycled into GT cause I'm a green kinda guy. And I guess all them Cobalts and Cavalieres don't have hand picked, underfactored, crate motors? I love you guys.

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Chuck I did read his post, I said GT car. Sorry I confused you, he ran this combo in SS last year not GT

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135 4442 GT/FA Sid Bonnecarrere, Gray LA, '70 Duster 10.121 11.10 -0.979

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Somebody brain dead approved that one. Same hp rating as my LT1. Not much in common otherwise.

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Jeff, can I go to the dealer and order me a new street car with that engine? That would be cool. Which model do I order to get one? Challenger? 300? Magnum? Which one?

If you check around you will find all the Cobalts and Cavalier GT cars do have engines that came in street legal new cars, emissions legal with a warantee. I don't think you could call those crate motors since you can pull one from a stock, street legal vehicle and build it.

I would build one like you have if I were starting over, those are killer combos. Smart thing to build. It will be fast even before you get it all sorted out. Like Drooze's car.

If I had one I don't think I would try to convince anybody it's not a crate motor. Everybody knows better. Ford now has them too. If you can't buy it in a street car, it's a crate motor. Like the GM HT383, etc.

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Oh, I'm not trying to convince anyone but me. You know, even the engineer in charge of this program with Mopar said it would be a lot more fun and better for the factories if GM were to participate. That would really be fun. I'm trying to convince them to do a blower in a ss car and let me have No 1. I need that, a hole in the head, a new wife, and 6 more kids also. Just to clear that up, my wife and I have been together for 50 years, married for 45, I don't need a new wife.

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As I read it Chuck, the old Top Stock motor is the one he was running in GT/FA! Now he is putting in the new Drag Pac motor! Big difference.

3055 lbs to run F!!! Thats less then my minimum to run E and it's more Cubes with a bigger throttle body!! Who rates these things.........Stevie Wonder?

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Stevie Wonder? quote

My misunderstanding, when I talked to Jeff last year at Indy, I thought that was the new 360 rated at 275 .... yea, it should be fast ............................... they are rated by the CEO of government motors ... oh yea, same guy ..

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Guess I need to order a new Dodge truck Oh, wait. Can't run truck engines in cars in GT. Still, I'd like that tall manifold, aluminium heads with those big valves & ports, oh and that 1000 cfm throttle body in my new truck.

Whoever at NHRA that bought that hp rating needs help.

Need to move Wesley to Glendora. Things would get more real.

Can't blame MOPAR for trying, but whoever at NHRA bought into that makes me wonder what they are thinking.

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That motor came in a DP car. I have one, still intact. If I were building a SS DP, I would start with a wreck sorta like Conutry Dog does because you are going to modify them so much, it would be a lot cheaper. With the 360, it is a natural SS/JA car. I ran mine in SS/KA cause I'm fat. We got a new 360 for this year for the Duster in GT that Kevin is gonna drive. Should be on the dyno Friday. We will also freshen the old motor which is a Top Stock motor that I recycled into GT cause I'm a green kinda guy. And I guess all them Cobalts and Cavalieres don't have hand picked, underfactored, crate motors? I love you guys.
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Jeff,
What truck (year and model) did this motor come in with Part # P5153847 al. heads on it.
just curouis

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It is a2009 motor. It evolved from 1993 truck to the 1998 R/T which had R/T heads and a single plane manifold, then both the stock heads and the r/t heads disappeared and the motor resurfaced in 2009 with the alm heads. The number you quoted is the casting number, but the part number for the heads is P5155285 for stock and the number you quoted is legal for ss. Part # & casting number is same for ss. I have both heads in stock if you are interested.

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Bryan, the Top Stock motor was converted to DP by cutting the dome off the piston, putting up the runners, putting holes in the runners for injectors, getting the cc's right. The problem is the Top Stock motor had a 580 lift cam and hydraulic rollers. That is what it still has. Ran a fastest last year of 9.85 @ Silver Dollar in good air in GT/FA. The dp motor was sorta based off that motor in T/STK. See, it was stock all the way. In the Top Stock configuration it ran a fastest of 9.52 @ 138 @ 2880 lbs with an 850 Q/F carb when it was fresh. The last run it made last year my son Joey lost Myron P. in Baton Rouge @ 9.67 @ 137. We have run that motor in various configurations since 2002. For SS, we also had to remove the plastic hood with the scoop that was worth at least .06.

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Ed.......Need to move Wesley to Glendora. Things would get more real.

That will never happen with Danny there, Thats why he dont do Nationals. He sure would fix things, I have no doubt.

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Jeff, is that the motor that was in the Duster in Atlanta running GT/FA? I ran against that car in Class Elims.

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That was it. We had a different driver and were having a little trouble getting a handle on it there. It ran 10 teens recently @ No Problem S/SS combo. We pulled it out. It was obviously needy. Fresh now as a backup to the new motor. Probably about time for a new set of pistons after this soup-up.

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Yeah, I know. Too bad. Doubt Wesley would want to live out there anyway.

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As soon as there is an injected Mopar engine legal to run in GT classes everyone yells foul.
Jeff, your welcome.

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Only thing that bothers anybody are bogus hp ratings, doesn't matter what it says on the valve cover.

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Jeff don't I count , I ran that motor in my dart some in top stock best of 9.,79