Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 208052)

The LT-1 in the 98 F body is in the guide, so you can run it in Stock and Super Stock. It's been that way for a long time. The LT-1 is even mentioned in the 98 F body owner's manual, it's in my owner's manual that came with my 98 Firebird.

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 208063)

All I'm saying is that GM tested 98 LT-1 F body cars, put LT-1 engines in the owner's manual, and submitted LT-1 F bodies to be in the guide. They were put in the guide by NHRA.

Originally Posted by Bernie Cunningham (Post 208081)

Alex,
(( Not much than different than the 67 Shelby's. ))

Ya gotta be kidding me right ??? What performance gain is a 98 over a 97 ???

Originally Posted by Dgal (Post 208166)

Section 9.1 of the 2010 NHRA Rule Book "A 500 minimum of a particular body style must be produced.......Special run must include a minimum of 50 of an already accepted body style, need not be showroom available. Applications evaluated on an individual basis. Acceptance will not imply precedent."

Originally Posted by Bernie Cunningham (Post 208157)

Ed, where ya been !!!!!

This country, including states, cities, corporations, law practices, big and medium sized businesses and flower shops run like that all the time as a business. At the time, Pontiac was the official car of NHRA, they wanted the new body style on the track but dragged their feet in getting the LS1's into the guide, they couldn't come up with the specs fast enough. I know, they really should have. They spent some money instead and brokered a deal for the cars running with an LT1 to use a new front fascia clip that they gave away, I was the last to get one, hence, my stand that there's no performance to be gained with the later model nose, it actually hurts MPH !!!! The body is the same and some small interior pieces are different.
And, YES, I have seen a 98 with an LT1 in it !!!!

To all of the purists, get over it. It makes no difference. Once the LS1's hit the circuit you had more to cry about back then, yea, more than ten years ago !!!!!!!!!!!

Somewhat different scenario to what Alex had alluded to though, with the Shelby deal, no big cam etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. all being performance enhancers, same deal, get over it, there are way bigger fish to fry now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ????????????????????????????????????????
B

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 208159)

Hi Bernie,
A few questions.How many LT-1 Firebirds came off the assembly line?Did NHRA get and accept a letter from Pontiac,ala Carroll Shelby,about an LT-1 Firebird?
My point about running a business was how much more are they going to let slide and what's the breaking point before enough racers tell them to go ***** in their hat and just park their cars?
What's your take on this Mr Dgal?
BTW that should be wringer,not ringer.:>):>)

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 208163)

So,I believe there had to be a specific run off the assembly line to get in the guide?I think it used to be 500.The Mustangs are sliding with 100.I don't know how many drag packs there are.The point being NHRA is whoring themselves blatantly since the late 90s.
I just think it has to stop or S/SS racing is toast,along with the other misguided policies killing the whole sport.

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 208168)

That is your answer to the whole debate! Jim

Originally Posted by Dgal (Post 208166)

Section 9.1 of the 2010 NHRA Rule Book "A 500 minimum of a particular body style must be produced.......Special run must include a minimum of 50 of an already accepted body style, need not be showroom available. Applications evaluated on an individual basis. Acceptance will not imply precedent."

Originally Posted by countrypuppy4865 (Post 208353)

Let this horse die! This has been beat to death on this forum. For one if NHRA says something is legal it is legal! Get over it! There are probably much worse things going on like improper hoods and on and on on a certain year model car. We might as well say that cars can only be painted factory available colors with no decals while we are at it. Be real guys!

Originally Posted by Bryan Worner (Post 208227)

Emmons' car is a 96 with a 96 LT1! There are a few cars, like Bartoli's that are 98's and run LT1's. I understand that in 98, they allowed the cars to be updated and still run the LT1 in stock and ss! Hey, it's no different than running the drag pack motors in ss! How many and what year cars were they offered in???

What I'm learning here at Indy is it's who you know and who you...............well, you know the rest!

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 208355)

If Tuesday morning NHRA got together and said "no LT-1's in '98 F-bodies from now on", what would happen?

Quite simply everybody that now has a '98 LT-1 would have a 1997 LT-1
F-body.

There's a lot of grief on this particular issue...for nothing!