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Stock1024 10-22-2010 03:30 PM

No Dutch quaifing posted on DRC?
 
The Dutch Classic the biggest sportsman race of the year in the country and no qualifing posted on DragRaceCentral.com ? Was anybody going to cover this race on that site?

Brian VP 10-22-2010 03:41 PM

Re: No Dutch quaifing posted on DRC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stock1024 (Post 217662)
The Dutch Classic the biggest sportsman race of the year in the country and no qualifing posted on DragRaceCentral.com ? Was anybody going to cover this race on that site?

The biggest sportsman race in the country? I think not and I think I can find many racers who would agree. Actually it has become more of a circus. Truthfully there is no need for a qualifying sheet because it is random pairing. No ladder until the second round.

jwsamuel 10-22-2010 04:22 PM

Re: No Dutch quaifing posted on DRC?
 
We will not be covering the Dutch Classic this year. I have covered the race for DRC for the past few years even though it was never a part of our official coverage schedule. I covered the race primarily because I like the event and like being there.

This year, however, it falls on my 22nd wedding anniversary and it would not be wise for me to leave my wife at home while I attend the race. Add to that the fact that I also work a full time job and have been at races four of the past five weeks and that explains why DRC is not covering the Dutch.

I will check to see what we can do to get the results posted at the end of each day, but there will not be anyone there covering it live.

Jim

Bobby Fazio 10-22-2010 05:59 PM

Re: No Dutch quaifing posted on DRC?
 
Dumb question: How do they form the ladder in the second round? Is it how far under the index you go in first round?

George Mirza 10-22-2010 07:03 PM

Re: No Dutch quaifing posted on DRC?
 
Yes, by how far you run under your index in the first round. No heads up races in the first round.

1752supgas 10-22-2010 07:15 PM

Re: No Dutch quaifing posted on DRC?
 
Jim , you sure deserve a weekend off , especially on your 22nd anniversery, congrats and enjoy. Thanks for all you do on DRC quietly up in the tower. Jim Fordyce

Tony Curcio 10-22-2010 08:22 PM

Re: No Dutch qualifing posted on DRC?
 
Mr. Samuels:

If this situation comes up next year, please put out a call for volunteers. One of us is bound to answer the call.

Bobby Fazio 10-22-2010 08:26 PM

Re: No Dutch quaifing posted on DRC?
 
Happy anniversary! Keep your bride happy haha.

Hey George, so if 2 cars from the same class roll in next to each other would they dial in or would they just find you another opponent? I never ran an open before..

WRENCH 10-22-2010 08:48 PM

Re: No Dutch quaifing posted on DRC?
 
Go to Jeg's Sponsored Dutch Classic Report post:)
to check the run's

KingReptile 10-22-2010 08:53 PM

Re: No Dutch quaifing posted on DRC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WRENCH (Post 217718)
Go to Jeg's Sponsored Dutch Classic Report post:)
to check the run's

Link?!?!?

WRENCH 10-22-2010 08:55 PM

Re: No Dutch quaifing posted on DRC?
 
Just go to main page on Class Racer Stock Super Stock page:)

norm saibene 10-22-2010 09:03 PM

Re: No Dutch quaifing posted on DRC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WRENCH (Post 217721)
Just go to main page on Class Racer Stock Super Stock page:)

are they running comp there

Stocker 2 10-23-2010 05:01 PM

Re: No Dutch quaifing posted on DRC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian VP (Post 217664)
......there is no need for a qualifying sheet because it is random pairing.

THERE'S THE ANSWER TO ALL THE STOCK AND S/S PROBLEMS!

It's so simple. Just random pair through the entire eliminator at all events. Why didn't someone think of this before?

stefan callender 10-23-2010 05:55 PM

Re: No Dutch quaifing posted on DRC?
 
In that case you can run Super Gas.

Todd Hoven 10-23-2010 06:13 PM

Re: No Dutch quaifing posted on DRC?
 
The advantage being?? Maybe buybacks too. ????


QUOTE=Stocker 2;217839]THERE'S THE ANSWER TO ALL THE STOCK AND S/S PROBLEMS!

It's so simple. Just random pair through the entire eliminator at all events. Why didn't someone think of this before?[/QUOTE]

Bobby Fazio 10-23-2010 09:18 PM

Re: No Dutch quaifing posted on DRC?
 
Does anyone have any idea what the schedule might be tomorrow? Or if super stock will be first out?

WRENCH 10-23-2010 09:59 PM

Re: No Dutch quaifing posted on DRC?
 
STOCK,SUPER STREET,SUPER STOCK TO START OUT 9:30am

Stocker 2 10-23-2010 11:03 PM

Re: No Dutch quaifing posted on DRC?
 
[QUOTE=Todd Hoven;217851]The advantage being?? Maybe buybacks too. ????


The advantage would be that the guy that out dollars everyone and writes a check for his horsepower would not be guaranteed a win because there would be no heads up runs. Don't you think you are a good enough driver to win when there is a handicap. Or maybe you just like using the excuse that Mr. Big Bucks out ran you because his new car is not classed correctly. Put a handicap in there, take the advantage away and then see who the real winner would be. Very few new cars would be around after the second round if they could not out run everyone heads up.

keith ohanesian 10-24-2010 11:36 AM

Re: No Dutch quaifing posted on DRC?
 
[QUOTE=Stocker 2;217879]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Todd Hoven (Post 217851)
The advantage being?? Maybe buybacks too. ????


The advantage would be that the guy that out dollars everyone and writes a check for his horsepower would not be guaranteed a win because there would be no heads up runs. Don't you think you are a good enough driver to win when there is a handicap. Or maybe you just like using the excuse that Mr. Big Bucks out ran you because his new car is not classed correctly. Put a handicap in there, take the advantage away and then see who the real winner would be. Very few new cars would be around after the second round if they could not out run everyone heads up.

You kidding right? Go race sleds!

B Aceves 10-24-2010 04:56 PM

Re: No Dutch quaifing posted on DRC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stocker 2 (Post 217839)
THERE'S THE ANSWER TO ALL THE STOCK AND S/S PROBLEMS!

It's so simple. Just random pair through the entire eliminator at all events. Why didn't someone think of this before?

Random Pairing SUCKS !! It does not work. Had a situation when they pulled this BS at the Phoenix make up race in Sonoma, Was in line next to a slower car when I set my dial to race a slower car, I was strapped in at up to front of the line when they pulled someone out of the line for the bye because of the odd number of cars, I dont know how they decided who had the bye but it was to late to change the dial in as I was now paired with a faster car, would I have liked to known this before hand Uh yes but no one had a clue to how this was going to happen. If you would like to race this way build a bracket car or race the .90 classes dont change S/SS quail thats a Lame Idea Sorry.......

david ring 10-24-2010 08:05 PM

Re: No Dutch quaifing posted on DRC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jwsamuel (Post 217668)
This year, however, it falls on my 22nd wedding anniversary and it would not be wise for me to leave my wife at home while I attend the race.
Jim

Jim,

Happy Anniversary-I hope you did something on Saturday night other than watch the Phillies!

Now enjoy the winter and see lots of good music and if you are bored on Monday Mornings, from 8-10, go to WONYFM.COM

Mike Carr 10-24-2010 08:18 PM

Re: No Dutch quaifing posted on DRC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by B Aceves (Post 217963)
Random Pairing SUCKS !! It does not work. Had a situation when they pulled this BS at the Phoenix make up race in Sonoma, Was in line next to a slower car when I set my dial to race a slower car, I was strapped in at up to front of the line when they pulled someone out of the line for the bye because of the odd number of cars, I dont know how they decided who had the bye but it was to late to change the dial in as I was now paired with a faster car, would I have liked to known this before hand Uh yes but no one had a clue to how this was going to happen. If you would like to race this way build a bracket car or race the .90 classes dont change S/SS quail thats a Lame Idea Sorry.......

I beleve, from a story I was told years ago, that the reason for random first round pairings at Nat'l Opens were due to cars attempting Records. Some would come to set it, then go home, whether they got it or not. This would create many bye runs first round. Thus, the random first round pairs. Whether this story/reason is true, I do not know.

As for the part about the dial-in, why would you dial your car different based on who your opponent was or how fast they were? I ran my street Camaro on Wednesday night Street Legal Night at times. Double entered in Street Automatic and Modified, which was open to any car, including those not street legal. I raced against everything from 8 and 9 second Super Gas cars, to 18 second sport compact cars in Modified. And, I dialed my car whatever I thought it was going to run, usually 14.1's, regardless of whether I was receiving or giving up a 5 second spot. If I thought the car would run 14.15, I dialed 14.15.


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