What class does this supercharged / stick Thunderbird fall in?
 

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...210_111710_S64

312 CID / 300 HP factory rating. I think a superseded Paxton supercharger will fit right there were that obsolete McColluch supercharger is sitting. A Jerico behind the engine and there you go!

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Now that is neat

Start up cost might be a bit excessive but whos counting now a days

:-) peace

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LMAO!!!

A $100K for a new challenger stocker isn't excessive?

Thats some funny **** right there.

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Yea but this car is probably closer to a half a million dollars

$100k is not alot for a complete new car and a potential piece of history

Any really fast and very nice stocker is probably going to cost $50k

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Jeff, My 1964 NHRA Classification Guide says: '57 T-bird Convertible @ 10.47 pwFt. That's 3141 pounds. (natural "E" class car). The T-85 trans was strong enough in the old days, and there are C-4 to "Y" Block bellhousings. Spec was 6# boost @ 4600 RPM's and 1# more for each 1000 RPM's. Would the powers that be, allow a superceded blower?

Interesting, Fred

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I believe Amos Minter, TBird restorer extraordinaire, has one for a quarter of a million then all you have to do is convert it to a race car, hand build ALL of your racing parts, test, build more expensive parts and have a race car.......simple!

JimR

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My best friend, Charles Venoski, and his father Stanley. This car was the two four barrel version but was available with the supercharger. I think the carbed version was 290 hp. This car was run at Marion, il; Sturgis, ky;Alton,il during the very early 60's.

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...only if that blower company is the "Official Blower Co. of the NHRA"....LOL

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The big problem is there are no 1957 Fords in the class guide

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All of these old combos were in the old Red binder class guide. Someone must have kept a copy?

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This car, a '57 T-Bird was running C/SA and I watched a time trial wherein he went 13-flat (don't remember the mph) by simply stomping the accelerator... no power-brake/stall-start at all. Zero wheelspin.

The car was 10 years old at the time...

Parham and Payne were there, also, with their 300 HP '57 4-door hardtop McCullough blown Ford, too.

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OOOOPS....

Here's the engine.
My apologies to the program....

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The T-Bird belonged to Dave Edmunds from Ohio. Here's another picture of it from 68 racing Ramon Lowe.

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Dual quads were rated at 270 hp std cam and 285 with the E-2 cam which was used later in the Blower cars as I rememer the E-2 cam was also a Pontiac option in 57 or 58 and the E2 was a Isky grind that several of the Auto companys used

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If I remember right, the '57 Tri Power Pontiacs had a dealer-installed option of a solid lifter cam. It may have been an Isky e-2 or e-3.... I dunno. Maybe someone else will remember that. I think this was in the pre-McKellar days...

One such vehicle, owned by Tulsa's John Zink won the top stock class at the '57 NHRA Nationals in Oklahoma City, that year. I think he ran 96 MPH, on street tires, with mufflers, and with the air cleaner on.

"Stock" meant STOCK, in those days. :)

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Isky E-2 with solid lifters.

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Thanks, Terry.

I HOPE NHRA brings these Pontiacs back along with the Chevies, whewn they do this.

Those, along with the blown Ford and Studes, would sure make for some interesting racing!!!

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Tony, There are several on here that have the old "Red Books", but alas no engine spec's book. I was told (I think by Cloy F.) that they still had the old specs for all, but that was years ago.

Regards, Fred

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My old engine spec book is in the hands of Duane Eiskant Sr. (Ice Bucket) If I could contact him I hope he would send it to me. I would even pay the shipping. It was a loaner to him while he was working for IHRA full time. It has all of the old engine specs from around 1949 (Olds) and newer with spring pressures, duration, overlap specs, etc. . Is there anyone out there who could help? Bill Hawk, Lil Duane???

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That brings to mind one positive thing NHRA has done - you used to have to buy the classification guide! Now you can look it up on the internet for free. Better keep our mouth shut.

Also, look at that 57 T-Bird. The class numbers are on the door and the contingency stickers are on the window!