Internet rumors-what happens if IHRA folds?
 

After reading the thread about IHRA possibly losing two signature tracks. Which may or may not be true. Just because something has been said doesn't make it true but it's like talking to a female co-worker (at least where I work), it doesn't take much for a lot of sh*# to get started.

There's a lot of smart guys here. What does happen to those of us building or whom have IHRA cars? This could be a lot like NHRA axing M/P all over again. Be many cars up for sale and many more in the process of being constructed (I have one of the latter) that suddenly fall into limbo. Yeah, there's always bracket racing, already have one of those, don't need two.

Another thought, that would mean the crate motor stockers, GT stock and SS/P cars would no longer be legal for the combo meets. Without an organization to police them, there would be no rule revisions nor adjustments to indexes or records.

Just musing over some thoughts with my morning coffee.

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My guess is you better build to meet nhra rules at least you can still run ihra if they go on.

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I'm with Bob. I never did understand why would anybody would limit a car to one sanctioning body's rules. It's nice to be able to run anywhere.

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The whole idea of Crate Motor, and I guess Pure Stock, was to make it less expensive to participate in class racing while still maintaining blueprint specs to go by, like the conventional Stock classes have. Obviously it has its disadvantages. But many Crate Motor cars can be converted to regular Stock or Super Stock with not much more than an engine change. Unfortunately, it is the most expensive "part" of the car. Higher costs overall and more time off needed for the longer NHRA events would likely limit my participation there.

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Considering the fact that IHRA isn't going anywhere, the discussion is moot.

But, if you want to get into it, crate motor and GT Stock can run Stock with little more than an engine change, Pure Stock can upgrade cam, etc and run regular Stock. Super Stock Production I believe could run SS/Modified or Modified Stock classes.

...and some of us bracket race our Stockers... :rolleyes:

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If IHRA were to go under I would hope that some of our more well funded class racers would buy what's left of the sportsman program. I think a sportsman only association would do just fine with the right leadership

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This is certainly my take on this, remember IHRA is only a small part of a large and what appears to successful company, Feld Entertainment. They either own or have the use of some very valuable brands (Disney on Ice etc).

Bill

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Chad.....do you know anyone who might be that crazy to waste their money and have to put in the time involved to run it and to buy whats left???? LOL

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That's my concern at this point in time. Let's be up front, this is just an internet rumor. I'm not stopping the work on the car. It will take some rethinking on my part, concerning engines. Our stocker is being built with the NHRA rulebook in mind. The only limiting factor for now is the crate motor.

As Michael Beard says, "IHRA isn't going anywhere". Even though I don't know him, I would consider him a reliable source.

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Michael is a great person besides knowing his racing inside and out.being he worked for ihra he knows a lot of the folks there and sometimes know more than we do for sure.

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that crazy and that much money yes, the time to run it themselves, no

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Mike & Robert,

I don't think IHRA is going anywhere, but VMP & Rockingham are going somewhere else .... Robert, you make want to call me on that 400ci pontiac motor ..? I like IHRA & hope they aren't going anywhere, because we need to have choices where we can run ....
I was at VMP yesterday and was told it's a done deal ... I think it will be Div 2 , which makes sense .... Time will tell....

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Don't forget. Bader still owns part of IHRA.

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I hope the sportsman deal doesn't go away. I hope to have more time to race next summer. I liked running their div 4 races last year. Hope to run with them this year if they are still around.

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Talks are that SMP (Bader) will pull double duty (NHRA&IHRA) in the near future.


Don't believe everything you hear and read

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While I appreciate the vote of confidence, I haven't been "on the inside" in many years. I'm just a racer. I do like to think that I approach things with some common sense, though.

We heard the same talk Re: Bruton and NHRA. What's there to buy? Classification guides and tech spec sheets, some fuel check equipment, and most importantly, from a marketing standpoint, a mailing list. Other than that, "Sportsman Racing" is a *concept*. What truly makes sportsman racing is the customers themselves.

$.02,

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Dave,

That may become a possibility. I also may explore changing the car to an earlier year. I presently have the front end off. With the work I need to do with the car, I may dig into my research a bit deeper. This Pontiac just might end up as a Pontiac yet!

Bob

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I would think if IHRA really went under, Royce Miller and 10 other track owners would create IHRA2 in a hart-beat.

IHRA2 would have the identical sportsman structure, mountain motor Pro Stock, Pro Mod and alky funny car.

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We have a winner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did'nt 8 people buy IHRA once before?
Chip JOhnson

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"Eight is Enough?" as the old 70's tv show said. Apparently it wasn't.

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It all looked good until you said "The Alky Ha Ha cars" PUKE !

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Somebody has to oil the track and spread clutch dust for us to skate around in.

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IHRA is suppose to come out with there schedule next week. I got an email from D4 Director Frank K. I found this. Bad deal having the State Capitol race same weekend as NHRA D4 race in Houston. Most will run Houston.

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Re: Internet rumors-what happens if IHRA folds?
 

From the looks of their scheduling and program it doesn't look like they'll be lowering
the circus tent in the near futue.
You have to wonder what this guy Feld was thinking when he bought IHRA.He must have
inhaled to much elephant poop fumes.

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The rumor floating around is the 5 NITRO Classes will be Top Fuel, Pro Fuel, Nostalgia Funny Cars, Top Fuel Harleys (Since the AMA Prostar deal is dead), and Nostalgia Nitro Fuel Altereds and Grave Digger vs. a Jet Truck....

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>IHRA is suppose to come out with there schedule next week. I got an email from D4 >Director Frank K. I found this. Bad deal having the State Capitol race same weekend as >NHRA D4 race in Houston. Most will run Houston.

Why in the world would they do that?

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Sorry Micheal but IHRA is already gone. Just look at car counts compared in percentage only to NHRA and its clear its not just the economy keeping them home. In 2006 our team participated at 11 IHRA races in div. 1 and 3 and in 2010 we went to 1 national because it was 3 hours from the door . The reasons were simple when we made the desision to attend less. Good tracks were taken by NHRA and other tracks dropped races and the general management of any of the races attended in the past couple of years was laughable. Look at a schedule of just 2 years ago to now in the northern U.S. and Canada compared to now. They may have the NitroJam spectators hood winked for now but that wont last.
P.S. I was a big fan and promotor of what it was but cant stand what its become. I would rather watch FELDS other show the tweedle boops..

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What "Grave Digger" is this ???????

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A jet semi vs a monster truck I do believe. I'm waiting for the midget wrestling, that seems to be all that is missing.

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Sorry, but that is funny !

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What diff does it make what kind of pro show is going on as long as you have somewhere to race. The pro show is exactly that and you still have the sportsman race that is still in effect as always has been. Now if you don't show to race because of the type of pro show that is going on then ,you must not want to race in the first place. just my opinion..........

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Danny,the more "Feld Entertainment" IHRA adds the more non race orientated fans you get.Eventually the thrill wears off and your left with less and less fans in the seats.Face
it,they're going for the entertainment buck,which can be very fickle.

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A jet truck and a monster truck ?????????? The jet truck I get, but the monster truck ??????? Sounds like they're grasping at straws to me...

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I hope they run the jet stuff last. I won't run behind another kerosene sprayer.

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It's not the same sportsman race... it's BETTER! We get continuous track time, uninterrupted, and don't have to fill in the schedule around the pros. You don't have to take hardly any time off work anymore, and you're typically done early afternoon on Sunday, leaving plenty of time to get home. We even got extra qualifying runs at some races. Got on TV three times this year, too!

The only negative to the new format for the Sportsman racer in my opinion is just how they handle Class (fastest qualifier instead of eliminations). And that's barely a corollary to the program as a whole.

As long as they have a place for us to race, it doesn't really matter to me what kind of show they run in the evening... it's all taking place after we're done anyway. If a given format doesn't pan out for them, they'll do something different. It's silly to think they'd say, "Oh well, we tried. Throw everything in the can, and shut the lights out."

I actually *go* to these events. I've met a lot of very interested and knowledgeable fans.

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I don't know. It's a big mistake. Everyone will go to Houston. Hey Ed that give us a better chance to win. LOL

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Ed,
You are in the finals of Indy. They run the Jet car before the finals. You gonna just load up and go home and not run the finals. Come on. I call B.S. on that.

I'v run behind them before and actually found the track better, because they took the time to clean it.
Chip

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Salem, Ohio, NHRA points meets,ran jet trucks during eliminations......hint....Dial .03 down!

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I don't know about that Ed. you might have to get past me. Because of the new AHFS I might not be at Houston. ESP that time of the year when it is stupid fast. Seems like I could still run pretty fast in IHRA and not hurt any thing. I might have to run hot air races from now on.
As For:
Quote: Beard,
We heard the same talk Re: Bruton and NHRA. What's there to buy? Classification guides and tech spec sheets, some fuel check equipment, and most importantly, from a marketing standpoint, a mailing list. Other than that, "Sportsman Racing" is a *concept*. What truly makes sportsman racing is the customers themselves.

I agree with Beard. I see very few tangible asserts for IHRA to sell.
If they did fold I think it would be prime time for a US Class Racers organization.

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Please answer this question racers. Why would a hardcore drag racer (not a car show/nostalgia wannabe) show up at a race that costs more to enter with the same purse not including contingencies and have to run 7-8 rounds to win? Where you could go elsewhere (another sanctioning body and it doesn't have to be IHRA) and run for the same money if not more and only have to run 3 rounds to win?

Can anyone make any logical sense in answering this question?