Len Imborgno - Jim Skelly - Performance Preserves
 

For those of us so steeped in nostalgia that just to remember yesterday we sometimes decide not to shave or use deordorant, (Have a nice day,) what are the chances of getting someone to release the archives of Stock and Super Stock qualifying - from any events that NHRA may have archived?

I'm talking all of the way back too. Hell, I'll come over and type them in if needed. Or let Nitro Joe do it. Maybe just the U.S. Nationals. We'd sure get a kick out of it.

Could you find out what's there?




Sometimes the best substitute for brains is silence.

Sometimes the best substitute is a dictionary. Have a nice day.
Shot

i have stuff dated all the way back to 94 for stats on the puter, and have hand writen qualifying from before then.

I know , i need to get a life, lol

"Nitro Joe" Jackson
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Hi Joe:
That's a start.
I'm wondering if there's stats back to the early '70's or '60's.

Sometimes the best substitute for brains is silence.

I know That about 6 years ago I called national dragster about such things on my dad and was tol they had no records. And then about 6 months later they did a story on Jr.stockers and WOW they had stats and a pic of dads car... We need to get on nhra and find these records so that we have the history.... The waibel's are with you

Jeremy Waibel
K&N B/SA 69 camaro
2231

No doubt they don't want to be bothered....but the right person could get in there. Sure would be cool. Instead of waiting for some reason to do a story, as in your case JimW - they need to realize there's mucho enjoyment that could happen sooner instead of who knows when.

Jim, Len, can you find out. Thanks.

Sometimes the best substitute for brains is silence.

I have the 1968 Winternationals Stock Round 1 thru Round 5. Example Pete Kost 68 Olds D/SA 12.79 107.78 over Ben Wenzel C/S 12.49 112.92 The class wins were posted in National Dragster but rounds of eliminator were not released to the media other than the final. National Dragster did have the rounds in written format.

Tony:
Did they ever post qualifying? I've got a few old N.D. - got a ton of Drag News, but they never seemed to have any qualifying either.

Sometimes the best substitute for brains is silence.

No qualifying numbers for the sixities and early seventies

don't forget in the 60's and early 70's you had to win class to quilf.
about 1980-2 came up with 64 car fields

3300FWD

I was class r/u at the 74 sportsnationals & springnationals in ss/ha and didn't get to race.
was # 28 quilf. at the 77 P.H. R. meet in martin,mich out of 32 that got to run.
Also class r/u at the1976 sports and spring ss/ha
1977 gators ss/ha
1978 sports and spring ss/ha
1979 indy ss/na
1980 gators ss/na
did not get to run any of these.

did win class in ss 1 time 1975 summernationals ss/ha
only time I got to run on Sunday in ss

3300FWD

Bruce - I have a few low qualifiers from 1980 -

Winternationals, Super Stock - Rick Johnston SS/NA 11.88 (-.51)

Grandnationals, Super Stock - Joe Scott SS/KA 11.39 (-.21)

US Nationals, Super Stock - Ray Pacquet SS/C 9.98 (-.21)
Stock - Don McElroy G/SA 11.98 (-.31)

Fallnationals, Super Stock - Buck Kinney SS/KA 11.36 (-.25)
Stock - Pete Kost L/SA 12.54 (-.47)

World Finals, Super Stock - Rick Johnston SS/NA 12.07 (-.32)
Stock - Al Provost O/SA 13.21 (-.25)

As you can see, back in the day, it was a lot tougher to run the number. Just being under was an accomplishment. Hope these help.

Bob Don

(BTW Tom - I won class at Summernats and got to run on Sunday. I also made the show at the Grandnationals and made the semi's in Stk)

We need to find someone on here that maybe know's who the National Dragster staff from those day's maybe thay could help. I did just find a cool pic of my dad standing next to he 69 Smothers brothers car with Dick smothers.............or maybe all pitch in and take out an ad in national dragster for any info????????? Let not lose history

Jeremy Waibel
K&N B/SA 69 camaro
2231

Well, hopefully Len or Jim will chime in and give us a tip.
Thanks for the stats Don. Cool stuff. Low qualirfier - .021 under.
I know times have changed - but in todays world I wouldn't go to the track until I fixed the car if it'd only go .021 under !

I had to work five years just to get the car to go 1.00 + under in order to think I had a chance to run at Indy. I saw a few of guys go home that year without making the top 128. Even with the easy indexs. Hey Jack, what do you think about the current indexs?

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Things have changed a lot since the sixities and seventies. When Dave Kempton won Jr Stock at Indy in 1966 There were only 17 cars in the eliminator 5 rounds. The 1968 Winternationals had a 28 car field f, Stock Eliminator 5 rounds

I only got to see the local Top Stock Eliminator run offs at my local track, Dragway 42, and I do remember that there were only the Class winners running each other and usually not too many of them. Back when I was a piece of dirt on a flys foot my brother let me drive in the TSE. Cause, he wasn't racing his regular race car. It was broke. So being the race junkie he entered his stock 69 Mach 1 in H/SA (351) and somehow won Class.
When it came time to T/S Elim he asked me if I wanted to drive. This was the summer of '69.

I was stunned. Really? He laughed and said sure. You're going to get beat no matter what. I didn't know anything about indexs yet. Found out. I got the head start on some 10 second Dart that passed me by the 60 foot mark.

I was fifteen at the time. I have a pic of that run too.
Have to go find it.....

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Bowtie Bomber,
National Dragster would be our best bet in searching for old data from the 60's and 70's. Guys like associate editor, John Jodauga, a former racer himself, would be a good person to speak with. John, has a wealth of knowledge about the old days and probably knows where to find it. Back then everything was hand calculated and written, prior to the computer era, and a lot of the data has most likely disappeared. We can also ask Phil Burgess, editor of National Dragster.
Bomber, you said that Dragway 42 was your old home track. What years did you race there? I raced there back in 1967 with my B/S Chevelle prior to going into the service. Fun days, gone but not forgotten!


Len Imbrogno
NHRA Director of Sportsman Racing

Len:
My first trip to Dragway 42 was opening day 1965. Wasn't that some place? I was so smitten I didn't think life could EVER be any better than watching those cars. While stuck to the fence, and you remember that the fence came up pretty close at the starting line back then ,a '58 Vette pulled out of the lanes and started his dry hops, and when it finally staged I lost my mind. On the rear quater panel it said, "Fulper's Auto Parts."

I watched it run then ran back to my brothers pit to tell him. I bet I looked like that kid from "A Christmas Story." Ralphie, when he was telling Santa Clause he wanted that BB gun....

Turned out to be a racer from Vermillion Ohio that my cousins, that I didn't know, who had a gas station, sponsored.

So, there's no doubt in my mind I watched you run. Cause I watched every run. And I could remember ET's for years. Were you there in 1970?


Bruce Fulper
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Here's that run. Need a magnify glass to see what class that Dart was running. Just remembered...there 'twern't no 60 foot clocks back then. doh! He still motored around me like Jacks wagon beatin' the Matador in Belle Rose...
Had the date wrong too. Thought it was in '69 - pic says '71.
I do have a pic of my first run in my own car at '42. And it definately was in '69. Hey Red ! Now you know why I like those '69 Mustangs.


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Bruce... I raced there in 1967 when that track was the headquarters for the short lived NASCAR sanction.... I too was in awe of the high caliber Ohio cars......especially a 1960 Pontiac called `Ol Rumble Guts`....363 hp and a 4 speed, owned and driven by Ron Hutter......Ron had a little dyno shop in Chardon, OH......I was so impressed with his car that I took my `50 Olds stocker to him......That guy worked on my car all day for $ 40......After about a dozen dyno pulls and trying a number of different things, he managed to pull 4 tenths out of it.....To this day he ranks very high on my hero list.........

After my brother blew up his 376 hp 421 Grand Prix, and got plenty tired of being beaten by Roy Dean alum front end '62 Catalina every weekend, he built this '67 Mustang coupe. But, it fell into the same class as Dean and he continued to get his butt beat every weekend in Class. On the back of the pic it says, "beat the Camaro 13.08 to 13.22." Pretty sure this was just a time trial.

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Ron Hutter - Modified Camaro is what I remember him driving. He was a bad man. (very fast) He eventually went Pro Stock with a partner didn't he?

Here's my very first finals run in my own car. L/SA Class final.
(two cars in the Class.) heh, heh...Ford was set up for the Class. 289, headers, probably gears etc. I put a little holeshot on him then he buried me. I still have the ET slip. 18.85 at 76.20 mph. I think the Ford went low 15's. My '56 had the Power Pack option. Hot 265 eh? It WAS fun.

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I know some of you remember Hart Automotive. Micky Hart sponsored several cars. Here's the 48 Austin during Elims.

Polaroid instamatics - gotta love em. Don't forget to go back to page two to see the fist pics.

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Hart Automotive 48 Anglia and a brand spanking new Vega gasser. Also sponsored by Hart. I believe this was the same weekend I ran my brothers Mach 1.


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Better get the information on old races quick. All the archives go with the sale.

Red,
I bet you wish you still had that 55 Ford. I know I wish that I still had my Chevelle.

Bomber,
It's a small world. I currently live in Vermilion, Ohio and I know right where Fulper Auto Parts was. They are now out of business and the building is for sale. I don't remember the Vette, but I do remember them having a gasser of some type.
In 1970, I was in south east Asia. Between late 1968 and 1972 I missed a lot of good racing.
Mickey Hart was a very good friend of mine. He just passed away last year. Yes, he had a lot of good cars running out of his shop. I worked at a speed shop in Lorain, Ohio and Hart did all of our machine work.
Great pictures! The black gaaser in one of your pictures was actually a 48 Austin owned by a Big Wilson out of Cleveland, Ohio. The car was called "Hart and Soul". Big is an African-American and Mickey thought the name was kind of catchy. Occasionally I still see Big at some of the old gasser meets.
The Vega in another of your pictures was Kenny Mott who worked for Hart.
Ron Hutter is still around and does a lot of circle track engine work. He did have several partners on the Camaro, "Hutter, Carver and Valerio".
Mike Valerio started a company called Competition Engineering which he eventually sold to Moroso.

Mickey Hart had a 52 Ford called "Sextoria"

This isn't pertinent to the Dragway 42 discussion, and I don't have any of the old National DRAGSTERS to back up what I say, but I remember that in the period from 1961-'62, the NHRA national records page had records for the Gassers listed something like this:

A Gas Coupe/Sedan: Not in my "database" any more...sorry.
B Gas Coupe/Sedan: Ed Schartman
C Gas Coupe/Sedan: Ron Hassel
D Gas Coupe/Sedan: Hrudka Bros.
E GasCoupe/Sedan:: Dave Koffel
F Gas Coupe/Sedan: Ferd Napfel

F Gas Coupe/Sedan may have come along a year or two later, but the point I wanted to make was, that every car I've listed here called OHIO home.

California may have been the cradle of drag racing, but the fastest Gas Coupes in the country all lived in Ohio.

Anybody remember who had the record in A Gas at that time? I just can't "bring it up." LOL!

I've slept since then...

Bill

From Hot Rod Magazine March 1961, NHRA Record Runs: Petersburg, Virginia Nov 1960 Ron Hassel set the D/G record at 13.33 103.32 1956 Chevy Sponsored by Jackshaw Chevrolet in Cleveland. Joe Hrudka was also ther with his blue 1957 Chevy Bel Air Hardtop E gasser sponsored be Neil Motors of Cleveland. Hrudka and Dennis Coker had a real battle of letter writing in Drag News in the mid sixties. A Gas Record as of April 1961 Gulfcrest Special, Puducah, Ky-Chevy 120 MPH set at Detroit Dragway sept 1960, Delozier & Ramey Oklahoma City-Pontiac 11.93 set at Oklahoma City Dragstrip

Thanks, Tony!

That "Gulf Crest Special" was a blue '40 Willys with a 352 CID, carbureted, small block Chevy (half-inch stroker motor) owned and driven by W.R. Sanders.
That car was the first door-slammer I ever saw run 120 mph, and I was literally awe-struck! It had a 3-speed manual transmision, and he drove it very conservatively (no power shifts.) It went 120mph and 12.0's at Halls, Tennesee, when I saw it in about 1958. He had the record, then.

I THINK that car got sold and was re-created as Junior Garrison's "Wicked Willys", which was the B/Gas NHRA Nationals class winner and maybe won Little Eliminator, in '62 or '63 at Indy. Junior ran a used car lot in Murray, Kentucky. The new engine for B/Gas was a 339" (3/8ths stroker) SBC, now, with Hilborns. The team of Coleman/Taylor (TCI?) in Memphis bought the car from Junior in '63 or '64.

I watched it run some 12.60s at Lakeland Dragway, in Memphis, at a points race that year. Coleman/Taylor owned the SS/AA record with their Stage II '63 Max Wedge car, and they had a "just for fun" grudge race with the "Wicked Willys."

The Mopar won, going away...

I 'bout cried, seeing a "Factory Hot Rod" STOCKER outrunning a national champion B Gasser...

Drag racing was never the same for me again... sigh...

"Sextoria"
I don't know what it means but it looks and sounds good.

Len: That's wild. Small world - for sure. Fulper's Auto Parts. I have one of their T-shirts....What color was your Chevelle? Any lettering?

Anyone else got D-42 pics from this era? I have a few more. I'm looking for pics of the 1971 IHRA Summernationals. The weekend Muldowney blew up the funny car in the lights. Pretty bad fire. I won Bracket 3 i nmy '53 Buick and only have the time cards and a picture of the check. Love to find some 8mm's of that weekend. I'll send an Email to John Judoga.

Gold Dust Videos had 8mm of the 1963 Drag News Invitational at Dragway 42.

There's some history on the Moose Crew website, http://www.themoosecrew.com/history.html

And this... their site notes it as being 1964.
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Don't forget about the York Reunion and Nostalgia Nationals! They're having a Gasser Reunion this year. Show & Cruise Fri-Sat in York, PA, and then Nostalgia Super Stocker, Gassers and more racing at Beaver Springs on Sunday. Coming up mid-July. www.yorknostalgia.com

I have all of that stuff. As I mentioned - I'm looking for the 1971 IHRA Summer Nats at D-42 coverage.
Thanks.

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Ok - at the overwhelming request of one person - here's the race history of Bruce Buicks '53 Buick. (Guitar playing stage name.) oh...it gets worse....ha!

IHRA was the new sanctioning body at our favotrite drag strip, Dragway 42, and they held their first ever "Summernationals" in August I believe. All I remember from the Pro side (two separate tracks side by side,) was Shirley blew up the Mustang and spun it bad thru the lights. Anyhow.....

A bunch of us kids were wanting to see our older brothers and the old guys in town race at a "national" event, I'm pretty sure Dave Sebring was one of those guys. You might have just seen him in nat dragster getting a promotion in sales some place. Those guys were ALL in their LATE 20's. Old, old, old, but they all had the most killer cars in town. Can't remember all of their names, Don - with a Hemi 69 GTX, Ron with a real ZL-1 red Camaro. Troutman and his LS-7 Chevelle that almost beat the record holder Knaffel Pontiacs GTO. A lot of 340 Dusters and 350 Novas. Sebring had a fast Duster at that time. He had owned some fast older Mopars before that too.

So a bunch of us kids had learned that we could run at this event too, IF, we entered on Saturday, in a Class, and then lost. Cause on Sunday the track had added this new thing called "bracket racing" and only Class losers were going to be allowed to compete. We weren't real sure how it worked, but two of us decided to give it a try. The other guy, whos name also slips my mind, but I remember he was 16 and I was 17, he took his dads '65 black Comet 289 4 speed. Fortunately for him he made it back home Sunday night without breaking the car. His Dad woulda killed him. Big mother his Dad......

I went thru Tech and told the tech guy what I was up to - he looked the Buick over and finally shoe polished "N/SA" on the window. If I remember right that was the lowest Class in IHRA. Somebody needs to let me know about that. I made five time trials that Saturday, and later that night got the call for Class. AllI remember is getting whomped by a brown '57 Chevy wagon that said "Good ol' Charlie Brown" on the side. I think he went 14.27. Here's the Saturday time slips with the one marked LOST being the Class run. You'll see all kinds of notes I scribbled on the ET slips. Especially the ones from Sunday. Coming up next.


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Part #2.
Sunday morning rolled around real early. This event was such a huge "happening" that most everyone had stayed overnight. Kinda unheard of to us, but man. What partying. Bon fires everywhere. Lots of beer that I hadn't aquired a taste for yet. But I tried. Hell peer pressure can really get you doing dumb things sometimes. But this was a 100% fun time. We talked all night about strategy. We didn't know what the hell to do, but we talked about it. The one thing we did figure out was we needed a hell of a lot of runs in order to see what to dial. And this first time? NO changing of the dial. You picked it before eliminations and that was that.

My buddy with the Comet and I were the first ones in the staging lanes Sunday morning. We were the first pair down the track. It was 9:00 A.M. sharp. I've lost count on the time trials at the moment - but here they are - read them top to bottom in columns starting from the left side.

One thing I began to notice - (the Buick only had one great big ol' Stewart Warner water temp guage,) the hotter it got, the quicker it ran. As you can see it began dropping by a tenth or so, then hundreths, then single digit hundreths. The four 21.84's about threw me - I thought, "This is it - I'll dial 21.84" - but I had a few more time trials to go before the one o'clock cut off.

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Here's the next set of Sunday morning time trials in order as they were ran. Now then - here's the killer - As you see the car was happily inching it's ET's lower and lower until the last run. I had finally got down to 21.80 at the hottest part of the day so far, and then I made the last time trial. The damn thing jumped .014 hundreths! Just knocked me out. I thought I had it made until that run. Everyone was flipping out how consistent the car had been, then that friggin 21.64 popped up. Talk about stress.

No one was any help. Hell, no one we knew had ever heard of bracket racing before. Even the "old" guys. No one knew what to suggest. I kept looking at those Et slips and finally came up with the thought...."it goes quicker as it gets hotter. I have to guess how many runs I might make and how hot it might get."

It was frustrating as all get out. I was pacing around right up until they called first round. I decided cause it had creeped so slowly to 21.80, and now it had cooled off some, and I wouldn't be making that many runs even if I got to the finals, I went ahead put a 21.70 on the window.

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I can't remember all of the cars I ran against that day. I do remember one of them was a VW that was slower than me. And THAT messed me up. And with the low first gear those things have I thought Crap! He was way out on me at the green. But the old Buick stormed (ok, creeped,) around him about the time he hit fourth gear. It had launched like a rocket, but when he hit fourth it was like he hit the brakes. But it had worried me for a bit.

The Buick had cooled down a LOT before the first round. And I wish like heck I could remember who and how I beat anyone with a 21.70 dial, especially with the first win being a 22.01. It took seven runs including the final that day.

I had formulated another game plan before the first round too. I would leave the dynaflow in low range until the speedo was straight up - dead on 60 mph - then no matter where I was I clicked it to high range. Which as I remember just a few feet before the finish line.

Back then the win lights were strung across the track right at or just a very few feet after the finish line. I remember not being able to see them. Unless the other guy left the time slip booth all pissed off I had to wait to get my slip to know if I had won.

So, now that it's easy to reflect on what happened that day, I'm thinking the Buicks block was so heat soaked from all of those time trials and it was a hot summers day, I see now the date was 8/15/71, that the ET's started dropping quicker than they did during TT's. I started wondering if the 21.70 was low enough.

22.01, 21.97, 21.93, 21.90, then jumped to a 21.77, which had me real worried, but the next one, semi-finals if you will, was a 21.74 and it had me sweating bullets now. There was one run left and I was too close to my dial.

I do remember this competitor... It was a small block 1968 Chevelle dialed in at the bottom end of the bracket. 15.00 flat.

As I had mentioned to Len in a previous post - at 42 you could get REAL close to the starting line as a spectator. Their chain link fence narrowed right up close, close enough that I could see and more importantly hear all of my Kent buddies going crazy.

Of course there were no reaction times to cloud our heads back then. All I knew I was holding the brake harder and harder and laying into the gas pedal more and more. Had my routine together too. I'd light that top light and stop, take off my horn rimmed glasses, wipe the sweat off my face, put my glasses back on and bump in. Count - FIVE amber lights - and on this last run - after all of my pre-stage prep - and my pals hanging on the fence, and in front of 30,000 people, the Chevelle sitting next to me at an idle, and of course the Buick was a quiet as a church mouse, as the lights came down I remember pushing the gas pedal a-l-l of the way to the floor. Remember, other than the announcer who was REALLY having a ball with me all day and the Chevelle idling, it was pretty damn quiet.

When I let off the brake - the Buick for the first time ever - the right rear tire - went CHIRP!!

I saw all my pals F-A-L-L off the fence laughing their axxes off. It was hilarious. The Buick, my unbelievable super slow beast, actually chirped the tire when it left. What a riot.

I remember now after looking at the car, I had taken the PolyGlass tires off my '65 2+2 cause it was sitting the garage with a broken four speed.

Here's the et slips including the semi-finals. Remeber - read left column top to bottom first -

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It CHIRPED the tire!

Oh man - it was soooo funny. Anyhow.

The Chevelle - is sitting at an idle when I left. I was running with my drivers window rolled down. I'd look at the folks in the stands. Wave. I mean c'mon, I had a long way to go to get to 60 mph and I was having the most fun I could have. Or make. It was nutty. This friggin '53 Buick getting all of this attention that afternoon. Remember all of those "older" guys we went to see?
They were hating me 'bout now. Fulper's goofy little brother is out there geting attention like crazy. Not one of them talked to me later. Reminds me of several guys I know now - that I used to look up to but after I started going fast in Super Stock quit talking to me. Oh well. Live and learn 'bout those special personalities eh?

Anyhow - the Chevelle has to wait 6.7 seconds. I actually watched his lights come down and saw him leave from my inside rear view mirror. It was a four speed car and watching him row the gears in the mirror was something else. I watched him til it was time for me to shift, once.

At the stripe he came around me like Terry Sherrill. I looked up at the lights and once again I couldn't tell who won, but I could hear the crowd going nuts.

As I was coming down the gravel return road I saw the Chevelle blast off from the ET shack, throwing rocks everywhere. I thought....me?

The ET shack girl had the BIGGEST grin on her face, oh man......I had won.

I had paid $75 for the car, and just won $125 bucks!

Shoe polish: The "Green Wastelands" was a self made reference from the WHO's "Teen Age Wastelands" song. The car was green. Portholes were identified as "Zoomies." Of course as I mentioned way earlier - a reference to some relatives I never met, "Fulper's Auto Parts," and some other teenage nonsense fun.

The kid - the check - the Buick:

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THE CHECK -

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The winning 1953 Super -

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oh, the final ET ? I'm surprised no one has asked yet...