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I know theres a lot of Cobalts in Super Stock,Comp etc.Why arent there any Camaros or Vettes out there too expensive no factory support?? What would be a unreal combo for a new camaro or vette or any front wheel drive car in Stock??

Thanks,
Tom

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I would think there is to much a advantage to a FWD SS car vs the camaro and the vette. The physical size etc.Not to mention the full round tube chassis of the FWD's and the full aftermarket front susp. etc. I would like to hear if there are any new 2000 on up FWD stocker combo's that are good, besides the PT's.

Robert

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Cobalts are popular in SS/GT. A Cobalt that is a flood car can be bought cheap. Not much of the original car except the body (and stock floor pan) is really used. Newer Corvette and Camaro flood cars are a lot more pricey. Making a Stocker out of a flood car involves replacing or fixing a lot more of the electronics.

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There are no new Camaro combinations that are worth building for Stock Eliminator. Most of the new Corvettes are factored such that they are Super Stock only combinations.

You can buy a new stripper Cobalt for about $12K or so, used examples for far less. It is small, light, and aerodynamic. You can buy a Camaro body in white for about $10K or so. You need another $5K or so worth of stuff just to have enough pieces to start a Super Stock legal car. The Camaro is big, heavy, and not terribly aerodynamic. If you're going to spend $75K to build a Super stock car, where are you going to start?

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I can't imagine anybody building a new Camaro.

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And they are UGLY ! You can park a 67-68 Camaro inside one. I know they are out selling the Mustangs and Challengers but DAMN.

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Ed is right, it's hard to imagine anybody building a new Camaro but the real problem is with the shipping weight. Even if you could look past the "fat chick" Corvette look from the rear and the massive size (the Challenger is big too); the thing is a tank! Unless Chevrolet builds a special car with a sensible (or bogus depending on your predication) shipping weight (i.e. Firebird Formula) there is really no class to shoot for, especially one at the top of the heap. Without factory help the Camaro is more like a turkey than a race car. It's sad, I'd really like to see them out there doing battle with a "racing weight" shipping # and a soft HP factor, just like Ford and Mopar; it puts excitement back into our sport which is something most of us have NOT done for a long time. Just my opinion. TT

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I'm with X-tech on this, they are really homely but in my neck of the woods they are not out selling the Mustang or the Challenger. Thank god. The WWII veterans say their nose looks like a german half track in the rear view mirror. GM had a chance and dropped the ball. But thats just my opinion and I've owned a Camaro since 1969 so I'm not a hater of Camaros.

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Just curious you know one of those mustangs will run in the 8s eventually in stock,if i was Chevy i would wanna do this first.

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LOL......Good description. Theres a GA-Zillion New Camaros around here. Im almost afraid to look in the rear view mirror. Im not a hater of them either as Ive owned a few including a Super Stock 68.

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Not evident they care. If they can sell well Chevy will just rely on everybody just remembering when they were fast. GM flat missed the boat on this one. I've tried for months to let their looks grow on me but no use apparently; they're plain butt ugly. Rest assured though, we will see several at the track this year, probably S/G or T/S.

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IF you can find a flood car. There must be some out there but finding them is the key. I know of a guy that tried to find a flood car and could not find one. This was around September 1st. Has there been any floods after September 1st in the U.S.? I do know of a really nice stocker for sale in the classifieds that was a flood car from Katrina.

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With flood cars, don't you have a problem with rust? For example, the Katrina flood car was immersed in salt water, wasn't it? A guy I know built a flood car years ago and he couldn't stop the thing from rusting from the inside out. It seems he couldn't get the tight seams of the body flushed out thoroughly and the corrosion ate it alive. I would think that a fresh water flood car would be a lot better.

As far as Camaros go, I currently own a 1969, a 1971, and a 2010 Camaro, and it took me awhile to warm to the looks of the new one but I like them now. It's just not built to be the same type of car as the originals. From what I read on another thread, 4 cylinder Cobalts weigh almost as much now as a base '69 Camaro did! Based on that it's no surprise that the weight of Camaros has gone up too.

Unless GM decides to offer a "Drag Pak" type package and pull a bunch of weight out of the car I can't see anyone building one for Stock or Super Stock. There has been talk lately of the body style being introduced to Pro Stock soon though. The "Pro Stock-ized" version will likely be about 3/4 scale and otherwise tweaked though to make it work.

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Besides the weight GM would have to release something about 100hp light ala DragPack engines to be competitive. I have chassis dyno tuned and tested several. They are rated honestly, so would get murdered in S or SS. Really poor choice for a race car.

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New Orleans had mostly brackish water but with a lot of corrosive, but a lot of cars had been totaled because a little water (rain water) hit the carpets. The ones that were covered in water for a week were ruined unless you did an off the frame restoration right away.

Greg

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If I had the funds I'd build a new Z06 for SS/A, provided NHRA will allow you to use the base C6 chassis to start from ( steel frame vs the Z06's aluminum). I think even with an honest hp rating the Z06 would give the Super Cobra Jet all it could handle. Its got to be worth 50 aero hp over the retro stang

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Actually there are a lot of new Corvettes and Camaros being drag raced, just not at NHRA or IHRA. Most of those new cars run at the LS races.

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yes, they do. for sure

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But that is not what we do here. The LS races are a whole different deal. Not much in common with us.

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I agree with you Ed but what is it that's drawing drag racers with new stock bodied cars toward other venues instead of to NHRA / IHRA Stock and S/S classes? New Corvettes and Camaros are drag racing lots of other places. Why not here?

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Because they're factored somewhere close to honest, and even worse, the Camaro weighs close to two tons. The Corvette is almost exclusively Super Stock only (cut a car you'll pay $50K+ for to start with to pieces?), and the Camaro cannot hope to compete in Stock, besides being too heavy to to be attractive for Super Stock. Not to mention a base Camaro starts around $25K, and a body in white that needs $5K worth of parts from GM before you can start making a race car sells for $10K+.

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The new Camaro looks half Mustang, half Chipmunk.

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Thought that had been answered here a couple of times already. Honest hp ratings and weight. They won't be competitive in the classes they fit. Pretty simple.

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Thats what honesty will get you !!!!! LOL