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I GOT IT.....A company provides/rents spec sealed engines (maybe 8,16,32,48) and they transport them to different tracks. Different teams arrive with no engines in the cars, but the cars (different style cars for each different show ie Stocker, round tube, back half etc ) are completely ready other than the engine. The cars are weight adjusted with ballast to become equal. With a max/spec tire size and gear ratio. To quailify to be a contestant would have to be determined by some means. You bring your own carb that has to pass tech inspection, fuel check and scale each run. The TV show starts at first round, the engine installation is done the previous day and then tech. Pull a pill to determine the engine you get. Heads-up, No breakout, No Cheating, No teardown, Just tune it and drive it! It's still, how good is your car, your driving, and your tuning? When you're done, take the engine out and it goes back on the truck. The engines would go thru a maintenance and dyno scheduled rotation to determine equality. This is just the concept, general rules would need to be adopted. You could even have a team Ford, Chevy, and Mopar. Put a random onsite engine (from each F,C,M provider/renter) from Ford, Chevy, Mopar on an onsite dyno to determine any difference in horsepower (which should be minimal). The random test engines would all use the same carb during the dyno onsite test. Then make the small ballast adjustment to the other teams in order compensate. One time run for quailified order. First round parings are random with no like brands racing each other. Second round parings are from quailified order.

LET'S RACE

Wade Mahaffey

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Too costly for the promoter,too complicared to figure out weights-wheelbases-transmissions-gear ratios-body styles-etc.What about AMCs,Olds,Buicks,FWD cars,and
probably a dozen other things someone else can add?
Who has the cash to front something chancey like this in the economic world we're in now?

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Wade, you smoking that stuff again?

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I think its just to cold for Wade to work out in his shop.....LOL.

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survey says....................YEP

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The key is k.i.s.s. keep. it. simple. stupid. as Johnny D. would say. AMC runs with mopar, Olds/Buick runs with Chevy kinda like SS/GT. Crate engine companys like Edelbrock, Patriot, GM Performance, Blueprint, Roush, Indy etc could be the engine suppliers. They could rent the engines and make money. If a guy will spend $500 to go to a National event he most likely would spend $500 to be on TV, him and his buddies would split the money anyway. The engine companies would get the exposure and Sell,Sell, Sell on Monday. It would be the big three again...sorta like the old days. You figure half of the rental engines would only get two runs on them, then go to the next race. If they rented them for $400 thats $200 a lap for half of them (1 time run, 1st rd loss). They probably only cost the builder $5000. Aside from loosing first round all the time, would'nt you like to pay for your motor in the first 25 laps. I'm talking some basic engines that could run 10 seconds. No wheelbase, trans gears etc. No electronics (transbrakes, timers, delays, T-Stops etc). All of the stuff that makes racing cost so much is gone. The folks that run Pinks All Out, can afford to run this too. They don't need a 25K stocker engine, to have a fighting chance. If the fans came to watch Pinks.....They'll come to see this. it's the same people plus more sponsers and built up big three rivalry...AND BETTER HEADS-UP RACING.

P.S. Tell SPEED to give me a call

Wade Mahaffey

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Ex-Tech wins!

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Please read the precaution label and the MSDS on whatever chemical it is you're using in a confined space with inadequate ventilation.

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lol!

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Ed, I think Alan is right. I did look up at the flue pipe on the wood stove and the damper was closed. I think I caught the vapors. Or it could have been TIG welding in poorly ventilated areas, Argon displaces oxygen.....but !'m alRitte mow

Wade Mahaffey

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Then share with the rest of us...

Actualy sounds pretty cool, there are "Spec" classes in all sorts of motor sports

motors all leave the shop within a HP or two of each other

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I actually love the idea. Heads up,no cheating,and get to blow up other peoples s#!t. Sign me up. Id like to see a .400 pro tree also. I believe you said no trans brake, so with this tree you couldnt really guess and get luckey too often and there would be nearly no red lights.

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Well, the only way you'd have no cheating is if you gave people complete cars. By installing an engine in somebody else's car, I can guarantee you that people would still find ways to cheat with their particular setup (e.g. hidden electronics).

I do love the idea of a level playing field where the best driver wins, ala the IROC series. That's the only real way that I could see something like this would fly. But, now the cost just went up because now you'd need to supply complete cars. NHRA used to have something like this when they had Oldsmobile (I think) provide them with 8 completely stock vehicles and then have people race against each other. But, was about as exciting as watching grass grow because nobody wants to watch people race cars that run 18 second quarter mile times.

I don't know if Hawley or Hill has enough identical cars, but pitting 8 guys against each other in a competition like this would be entertaining to watch. It would be particularly entertaining to have it be an all-star race with some of the best drivers in the country.

So, for episode 1, I'm thinking Peter & Sal Biondo, Dan Fletcher, Scotty & Edmond Richardson, Greg Stanfield, Mike Edwards, and of course, me. :D

Of course, what I've just defined is in essence Super Comp, as isn't everybody in S/C just driving identical Undercover dragsters with a Huntsville Racing engine and Powerglide transmission?

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And we a know how many watch super comp, that would make one heck of a TV show.
Seriously?

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Why not bring back a Homerun Derby style event where you match racers head to head in a best 3 out of 5. Then the winner moves on next week to face another challenger.

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Well, the difference is that this would be first one to the finish line wins, no breakouts. It could also be made so that it was doorslammers rather than dragsters, but that would obviously increase the cost. Personally, I think for the entertainment aspect of it, they would need to be short-wheelbase doorslammers (i.e. something that would want to wheelstand), as dragsters are far too tame-looking when the leave the starting line regardless of how fast they are.

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I realize this does not appeal to the hard core Stock and Super/Stock folks. The point is to fill the void of "Pinks All Out" with another drag racing show. We must not let the time slot of some drag racing be given to monster trucks, or motorcycles, or boats. I think it must be a show that would be entertaining to more than Stock and/or Super/Stock racers. (like the average bracket, weekend warrior, pinks competitor) It has to be based on the team concept (a bunch of buddies) which gets more people involved (all of their family and friends, brand fans Ford GM Mopar, auto performance companies) . There has to be a time elemet (getting the car ready, RT, ET) and of course drama (the competition). With a some what level playing field (equal engines) and an element of team ability (all the buddies building the car) and indivdual ability (the driver). It was just an off the top idea, not a final draft. I was hoping to engage some of the fine people on here, toward a possible type of show that would continue where Pinks left off. Some times we try....fall...get back up and try again....BUT WE DO TRY AGAIN!
That's a Winner!

Winners make things happen......loosers let things happen!

Wade Mahaffey

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Wayne County would win :rolleyes:

But would loose in the season ending points race with a big backfire :eek: