NHRA just released survey results...
 

Scotty rule is out and indexes remain the same....

http://www.nhra.com/story/2011/1/6/n...ults-released/

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Something must be missing in their numbers. The math doesn't work when you add it all up. There must be another group they don't mention.

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so in reality 55% wanted change in S/C and 49.3 % wanted change in S/G.
Maybe next time just ask if they want to speed it up or leave it alone. too many choices made the indexes stay the same.
wake me up when it's 2020 !

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So then the poll should have been done in two parts; poll for a change.... then poll for the index. 7.90 or 8.50 and of course 8.90 and 9.50 for s/g.

Rick

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Exactly. More than 50% of S/G & S/C racers combined said "lower the index."

So the results are: "Index stays the same!"

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I think we paved new ground here......lol

We took a vote and the NHRA changed a rule.....now the stage is set for further things that we would like changed.....some of the guys will get their email fixed up.....and take it more seriously.....this just shows that it can happen.....

Thanks to Mike Rice for being our liaison.......

Rock Haas

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Yes, we did take a vote, but of the 2301 eligible voters, you got 987 replies. Not exactily the cross section of racers I was hoping for. In my opinion, we Super Streeters just made it harder on ourselves to get in National events. Maybe not this year, but in the near future. E

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Fully agree

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Very true. Thanks to all who represent the rest of us for at a minimum - getting us a voice.

Thanks.

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BOOO .... Super Street Scotty rule has been pulled. Super Street is about to get ALOT tougher. Here come all the class Back Pedalers.

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So now Super Gas cars can enter Super Street if the field is ever full again? That would be cool.... 10.90 at 165 or so.... Just have to load the box up a bit for the slower tree....

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99% would need a roof.............lol

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For some reason I was thinking that roadsters were legal in S/ST.

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They are
Chuck

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Then why would they need a roof? LOL

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I'd have to look in the rule book but I don't think they are allowed .

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I know several people that run roadsters in super street. Bob Fuller won back to back events in a corvette roadster four or five years ago.
Chuck

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Any left steer is OK in S/ST, it just has to cross the scales at 2800 while meeting the General Reg. on ballast (no more than 500 pounds) and all other rules.

S/ST grade points must be used to enter a S/ST national. So a S/G guy can't throw in an extra car and enter S/ST at his next national just because the field is open, unless he has the S/ST grade points.

I'm as amazed as Rock that they actually read a survey result and changed a rule...but this one was a no-brainer in terms of economics. You can only have more entries than before.

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Just went and got my old book and I guess according to the rules (open for interpretation) a roadster can run S/St.

I'm sorry......................:(

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Rule book
Full fenders,hood,grille,top,windshield,and functional doors,sports cars,street roadsters,vans and panel trucks,and pick up trucks ,120 inch wheel base.

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I wonder how Fullers Davis roadster got thru, no doors???????

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So it's official, throw a couple of hundred pounds in the car, eat lots of cheeseburgers and run some 10.90s. Yahoo!!!! :D

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I don't understand the guys that are affraid of SG backpedalers, roadsters or whatever entering SST. Couldn't they always do that. All that changed is multi-car racers can have one car entered in SST.

Are you saying that multi-car racers that try to enter SG at a national event will enter SST instead because SG filled up? How many multi-car racers would that be? Besides they will have to add quite a bit of weight to do that. That will change their whole setup I would think.

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Good question. I just pulled out my handy-dandy 1988 rule book out and the rule states the same as what someone post here. top, windshield, and full doors. what year did he run SST

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all i know NO Roadsters or Super class Funny Cars allowed at the Mt Vernon, Pacemakers Raceway Park SST series this year !

Here was my post on Pacemakers site a few weeks ago

Here is 2011 rule changes, this is sketched in stone already, AND has been approved by series sponsor, Bill Jackson & track operator Mike Fouts
1. New Index 7.00
2. NO open bodied cars at all, If it doesn't have a roof, working door, full windows, ect it's not going to race in SST at Pacemakers
3. Courtesy staging

Plus everything else stays the same as we did in 2010, ladder fields, higher Q'ed car gets lane choice all the way through. No NOS.

I will post schedule soon!
Joe

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NHRA did good in my opinion on this.
I don't think you will see many SG cars drop back to SST unless they were not real good SG cars. My SST car will run 9.90 but that don't make it a 9.90 car.
What you will see is racers like me bring a extra car.
I think NHRA is making it more and more enticing for me to come play now that I can bring both cars.
THANK YOU NHRA
Chip Johnson
sst2924
sc?

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Chip, You nailed it right on the head! Thats exactly what I meant. I think some of the better funded racers will take along a 10 sec. car to play. Then a guy who only runs some local div. races can't get in to the Nats. ( E-town only takes 50 cars) E

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E,
You still have to use sst grade points to get in a national. So if you run a few divisionals you probably got a better chance than a big guy that brings along an extra car cause he can.
How many extra cars do you think will show up? You may get 4 or 5 per race. With the car counts in sst they need them.
Chip

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I'm with you; think you're more likely to see a full tree racer bringing an extra car than a SC/SG racer and besides we need the car count! I personally hate small fields, especially at races where they advertise purses based on car counts. Hopefully they will have the foresight to not run two relatively small fields (like Stk and S/ST) back to back in the run order; will make the racer without help have to scramble.

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I love change.....Change is good:)

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I would like to try SST this year. All I need to do is add 25-30 lbs to make minimum weight and turn the timer on for a decade. It may not like it for all I know, but I want to try it. And my Vega has original front suspension and a roof. Not that I am scared of SG because there is nothing better than beating 60k roadsters with my dinosaur, but I just want to see what is like to be one of the faster cars instead of being 9 miles out front. Should be fun. I’m sure Chris Depascale (sc1153) will call me a back pedaler, but nobody cares what he thinks anyway… HA HA

DAN

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World champ dinosaur I might add....

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Danny, two words: BRING IT!!!!! (lol) E

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E man ,what do you care, you dont race any more .lol

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Frankie, don't you got snow to shovel or something? E

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Dan, you won't like it stay in S/G.hehehe. On the other side of the picture you'll have to get use to slow cars like mine going128mph.

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Hey E, in no way do I think SST is easy, I watch you guys all the time and there are some bad dudes in D1 SST. I just want to try it.

Robbie, me chasing someone is unheard of !

Off to the EAGLES game I go, Jayco is loaded and ready for battle !

GO BIRDS

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Dan won't have to worry about judging 128mph Super Street Cars....he's raced my 117mph Super Gas Car a few times already so I've trained him well...haha

Slow Wagon
1198 S/g

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Hambone, you WERE serious at PRI then when you told me you wanted some easy pickens and would play with us, you may have to start whompin at 600 ft tho.. Come on in the waters fine.