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art leong 01-25-2011 09:42 AM

Class on the rainy weekends
 
How in the heii are they going to determine class winner when they get a bunch of rain delays or oil downs?
Fastest car gets the most points? Then they can cancel the final rounds if they are running late and award the win to the higher qualifier.
PRECIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ed Wright 01-25-2011 11:51 AM

Re: Class on the rainy weekends
 
Art, chill. There is nothing all this complaining will fix. If enough guys quit showing up they may change. None of this drama is going to fix anything. It looks like they are trying to make it affordable enough, by cutting back on classes & races they have to pay, to maybe attract some companies back.

art leong 01-25-2011 12:07 PM

Re: Class on the rainy weekends
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 235477)
Art, chill. There is nothing all this complaining will fix. If enough guys quit showing up they may change. None of this drama is going to fix anything. It looks like they are trying to make it affordable enough, by cutting back on classes & races they have to pay, to maybe attract some companies back.

Ed you tell me to chill. Well nhra just took a lot away from me.
When Larry Hill (one of the few with a legit beef) commented about the DP's and the CJ's
Everyone rallied around him, most of those people had no dog in the hunt.
Now the shoe is on someone else's foot.
Or do you "really" believe cutting classes is good. Till they cut yours?

Ed Wright 01-25-2011 12:12 PM

Re: Class on the rainy weekends
 
Usually 4 to 8 cars in my class at national events Art. And there is a DP and a new Mustang there this year. I have heads up in eliminations too. SS/JA is a very popular class.

art leong 01-25-2011 12:25 PM

Re: Class on the rainy weekends
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 235487)
Usually 4 to 8 cars in my class at national events Art. And there is a DP and a new Mustang there this year. I have heads up in eliminations too. SS/JA is a very popular class.


Ed you chose to run that class, So far there weren't any CJ's or DP's in your class except for stockers turned superstockers for a day.
When they combined the FWD classes nobody noticed that about 8 or 9 cars quit racing.
Steve Polhill who has been racing for years is ready to quit due to the enhancements of five pounds per hp class seperations.

Ed Wright 01-25-2011 12:36 PM

Re: Class on the rainy weekends
 
Art, you are mistaken. Lloyd Wolford will have his new DP out, right here in Div 4, this summer. Built for SS. There is already a nine second new Mustang running SS/JA.
Do you think 6 or 8 (high estimate) fewer cars will hurt their bottom line worse that loosing several sponsors? Remember they (NHRA) get the uncollected contingency money at the end of the year. They are running a business, same as the mfgrs paying the contingency money. Times are tough for businesses right now. They aren't out to hurt Art Long.

alan r caraway 01-25-2011 12:42 PM

Re: Class on the rainy weekends
 
Art sale the car ,buy a new boat, its just as much fun and you can fish in the rain.

art leong 01-25-2011 12:46 PM

Re: Class on the rainy weekends
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 235495)
Art, you are mistaken. Lloyd Wolford will have his new DP out, right here in Div 4, this summer. Built for SS. There is already a nine second new Mustang running SS/JA.
Do you think 6 or 8 (high estimate) fewer cars will hurt their bottom line worse that loosing several sponsors? Remember they (NHRA) get the uncollected contingency money at the end of the year. They are running a business, same as the mfgrs paying the contingency money. Times are tough for businesses right now. They aren't out to hurt Art Long.

That's right times are tough If I or anyone else quits I doubt we will be buying any parts. That is the reason for the contingency. Right? nhra is supposed to be a non profit organization. So having to pay out less should not effect there bottom line.
And I can probably tell you next years enhancement. Class runs only at the 4 races. They can save more tropies that way.
You do realize this will ultimately help me. Because of supply and demand my trophies will be worth more on ebay.

art leong 01-25-2011 12:49 PM

Re: Class on the rainy weekends
 
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Originally Posted by alan r caraway (Post 235497)
Art sale the car ,buy a new boat, its just as much fun and you can fish in the rain.

It is already up for sale. Car, trailer ,truck, everything.
And I already own a boat.

davidhuff 01-25-2011 12:50 PM

Re: Class on the rainy weekends
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by art leong (Post 235499)
That's right times are tough If I or anyone else quits I doubt we will be buying any parts. That is the reason for the contingency. Right? nhra is supposed to be a non profit organization. So having to pay out less should not effect there bottom line.
And I can probably tell you next years enhancement. Class runs only at the 4 races. They can save more tropies that way.
You do realize this will ultimately help me. Because of supply and demand my trophies will be worth more on ebay.

I am with you Art 100%!

X-TECH MAN 01-25-2011 12:54 PM

Re: Class on the rainy weekends
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alan r caraway (Post 235497)
Art sale the car ,buy a new boat, its just as much fun and you can fish in the rain.

I don't think they make FWD boat's ! Except fot the elec. trolling motor

art leong 01-25-2011 01:07 PM

Re: Class on the rainy weekends
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 235503)
I don't think they make FWD boat's ! Except fot the elec. trolling motor

There you go and it's green technology too.
But trolling is for sissies and for those that can't anchor a boat.

Bernie Cunningham 01-26-2011 01:26 AM

Re: Class on the rainy weekends
 
Ed, it's kinda tough arguing with a stubborn old fart that's got nothing better to do than confuse a perfectly legitament suggestion (by an NHRA employee on behalf of the manufactures) for a plan to SAVE Class racing. He alone, could easily win the CHAMPIONSHIP and all he does is moan, whinge and conger up the end of the world !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey Art, got a better idea how to SAVE CLASS RACING ??? I'll give you a chance cause I'm about to start a new thread labeled as such.

Nothing personal here, ya seem a little irate though !!

Bobby Fazio 01-26-2011 09:43 AM

Re: Class on the rainy weekends
 
Bernie, why do you keep praising NHRA for their "tireless" effort to SAVE CLASS RACING when they are the ones who destroyed it in the first place by juicing the hell out of sponsors (and racers) to enhance profits that, by law, are not allowed to exist?

art leong 01-26-2011 10:52 AM

Re: Class on the rainy weekends
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bernie Cunningham (Post 235679)
Ed, it's kinda tough arguing with a stubborn old fart that's got nothing better to do than confuse a perfectly legitament suggestion (by an NHRA employee on behalf of the manufactures) for a plan to SAVE Class racing. He alone, could easily win the CHAMPIONSHIP and all he does is moan, whinge and conger up the end of the world !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey Art, got a better idea how to SAVE CLASS RACING ??? I'll give you a chance cause I'm about to start a new thread labeled as such.

Nothing personal here, ya seem a little irate though !!

Bernie You have drank to much Koolaid, or maybe they put it in the water out there.
I'm tired of being enhanced. nhra has screwed with me personally going back to the 70's
From wanting to factor us because we were winning to much, to running the final round 3 times in Seattle trying to stop us from winning the W.R Grace Cup. To not enforcing the acid dipping problems. Factoring me 8.25% at one time. when I didn't even come close to the standards THEY set for the ahfs. To taking away the class winner at Indy. Now coming up with this rediculous plan "to save" class racing. And springing it on you just before the season begins.
I have a GREAT IDEA on how to save class racing get rid of all the crooks in glendora. That have never raced a class car. But are carefully watching out for our best interests.

Do you realize how many sponsors have quit nhra not because of singles but because of nhra. Maybe you can blame M/T leaving because they paid too many singles. (It's time to take another sip of koolaid) nhra has been screwing sponsors for years.
My prediction is people are going to be pi$$ed off when they have to run cars in other classes for class. Causing the counts to drop then nhra will say "due to car counts" they will have to stop class eliminations, and heads up runs.
As it is now I have a great advantage. My car can go 1 second under without opening the hood for about 300 runs. The highly modified hood scoop cars are rebuilding their stuff every weekend. Now they are going to have to make more runs. The guy that runs a P/SA car did not build it to run a DP car with no breakout.
I predict a lot of them will just qualify and sit out the class thing. And IF I can figure that out don't you think the bean counters in glendora have this on their adgenda?
You just don't seem to realize it's all about glendoras bottom line, it has nothing to do with the overall good of the racers.


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