Class last year?
 

Last year for my class wins I made $750 plus the trophy.
How much did you make?

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Al, you aren't going to change anything. Your just giving yourself an ulcer.

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How many cars did you beat for the class win(s)?

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Fred, driving down the track alone isn't really winning anything, is it?

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Don't expect to change anything. Just trying to prove that there was not that much money paid out

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Fred how about we have a old fashioned money race without any break out.
Just index to index. I'm willing to put up $25,000
And I'll have someone to race. "you" Ed if you want an piece that can be arranged.

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I have no idea, you'd have to ask Kevin, but we won more for Stock runner up at St. Louis than we won for AA/SA class at St. Louis.

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I think Art called you guys out!LOL

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Just tired of hearing the BS about the fact that I ran singles. At E'town in the 90's a guy bought a car that could run in my class. He thought it would be fun to run against someone, (he could have singled). He got uspset because I let him leave first, he said I made him look bad. I went 1.37 under

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That's exactly what I'm trying to point out there is not that much money.
Just a little to offset the costs of that race. That a lot of guys counted on.

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I agree 100%,if I want to hear a bunch of BS, I just turn om MSNBC!

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Some of the new CJ'S or the DP'S may like some of that action.

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Does fred johnston have one?

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I just brought that up so maybe you could make an easy 25K

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That brings me back to the old days Wally personally asked us to quit the street stuff.
Now I wish we would have kept it up. A lot more money than the W.R. Grace Cup.
But you could lose a lot too.

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BTW I've been looking at the past races where they ran class.
My singles were in very good company.

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If you are "counting" on a class win, I see two problems.
1) if you NEED the class win money to afford the trip, you don't need to be there.
2) if you can "count" on the class win then obviously you don't have race any one for it, and therefore don't have to push your equipment to do so.

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Chad you don't "NEED" to be anywhere.
I should have used the word expect instead of "count on"
When you attend a race do you expect to win or lose?

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I plan to win, but I ain't counting the cash just yet

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Art back in my S/SS days I have a few Class wallys some were a single an 1 race had 11 cars in the class and Im proud of them all.(also I have 1 of the big Wallys.]

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Congrats. This is what I'm trying to get across but most don't want to listen.

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I have a few and I am proud of them also.

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A single for a Class win and money is nothing but using the system if ya build ya DRAG RACE CAR that way and do over and over again, I don't have a problem with that at all, good job!
Sounds like an attendants award to me, just like in Pre-School sports these days, like ya show up and cry and don't prove a thing and still get a reward for doing nutt'in !!!!!!! How are ya in the main eliminator?

YAAAAA HOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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X2
Partys over!!
Get 4 more plug wires and join the club.
Now I dont have to answer the question,
Why is a Pt Cuiser the #1 qualifier
What did the guy break his race car?

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WRONG
james you have a pm.

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Al, we get it. You can run a long way under your 13 second index, with a turbo. WOW!
LOL!

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You=Box of rocks
WOW

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Art, since your one-off combo is so fast, you should have no problem winning the new "class-combo" eliminator trophy.

1.3 under should get you the trophy, provided you can cut any kinda of light and also some HP added to your combo to boot!

So why do you continue to whine about this?

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You are under the box of ROCKS.
Reading is Fundimental

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It's fundamental.LOL

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Ran a single at Etown last year and got $400 and a $50 credit to McLeod and loved every second of it.

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I resent that comment...lol

Rock

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Was this change ever even mentioned to the drivers council?
Why not announce it last fall before people invested in their combination or a new one?

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I guarantee that NHRA knew/has known about this for a loooooong time just kept nursing it along hoping things either would get better or that the sponsors would forget about it and finally the **** hit the fan and the biggest sponsors(dollar wise) finally said enough is enough we're done and held a gun to NHRA's heads and said fix it now or it's all over. So they hastily thought up something. Guess what they came up with ,a plan that satifies the sponsor at the expense of the racer---- are you surprised??---comp

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LOL. There's this guy I know named Rock, I'm not sure he cares for the idea of being a box on top of........................................ :eek:






:cool:

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That was a suggestion I made that was ingnored. Those on here were more interested in the number of classes.
Why should thje masses know what they only want the chosen few to know.
I was complaing about the new ahfs at the PRI show and was told by someone I used to respect. That something like this weas in the works. He smiled when he said it.

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Unless you are packaged in a box I wouldn't worry. LOL

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I've paid as much to any given contingency posting manufacturer for parts on my car in an unpopular class as those in the larger classes - in some cases more since small block Chevy parts are most often far cheaper than the unique stuff. To say I'm not entitled to contingency money because there aren't multiple cars in my class is ridiculous. And since there has never been a focus on the factoring system to balance classes against each other how can you now lump them together as a run-off.

Also I can gaurantee that having 3-4 cars in a class (or even 10) versus a single does clearly demonstrate there is no marketing benefit to that type of car which had a single at a given event. Let take the Fox-body Mustangs as an example. How many of them are there in the world and how many have performance modifications? Its a huge market, has its own section in the Jegs catalog. So why is there only a handful that run in Stock or Superstock? Under the competition structure in most cases there are "better" combinations, but there are diehards that still compete with them due to brand loyalty. Are you saying they don't deserve to be fairly rewarded by the manufacturer for representing their products, that is the intent of the contingency program. If you lump everyone together for one payout you have the eliminator. Or just say you are paying qualifying money, and just skip class eliminations altogether.

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It is not the single car class runs that have driven the sponsors away BUT there are more single car classes because of way to many classes in both stock and S/S . To many classes equals way to many class winners for the sponsors to support with the advertising buget they have in todays economy. Simple math.....What do you guys not understand? Its time to reduce/combine/drop some or just race the way it is and forget about class win money. Theres always the eliminator to win. The sponsors are not posting class win $$$$ just to pay for your entry fees and fuel bills to get to and from the races.

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Terry, does IHRA have any class eliminations for Stock, with contingency payouts? Considering that you are always saying how great IHRA is, and that NHRA has too many classes, did you forget that with all the crate motor, pure stock, GT, truck FI etc divisions, that IHRA has over twice as many Stock classes as NHRA? Plus the car counts in Stock at an IHRA race are usually less than half of a NHRA national.
As for racing an "oddball" combo, I race a 85 5.0 Mustang in M/S, there may only be 5 or 6 other guys running this combination, thats not my fault. I`ll bet that Ford sold many times more 5.0 stick Mustangs in 85 than MoPar sold Max Wedges, or Hemis or Chevy sold 427 Camaros, the fact that many don`t want to run a relative slow car is possible, but considering how many 5.0 Mustangs I see at the local Street Legal races leads me to believe that a 5.0 Mustang is hardly an rare,obscure, oddball car, regardless of how few run them is Stock or S/S.