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I now have a very long list of contingency sponsors who after Months have paid nothing and made no contact.

I will shortly be asking the NHRA to "remind" them of their committment, but was just wondering if anyone else has a list of the worst contingency deadbeats?

In fairness, will also be starting a thread of quick pay, good communcation contingency sponsors. And there definitely are some of those.

David
The New Hemi Guy

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David: if you didn't receive payment by years end, my "guess" is you can pretty well write it off. JB.

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Welcome to my world...

As you said, there are a nember of FANTASTIC companies. For example, ATI, Strange, Mark Williams, K&N, Jegs, Summit, Comp Cams just off the top of my head as the fastest paying ones. There are a number, however, that year after year, are a problem. I won't name names, but apparently being based in Florida may be a contributing factor.

I've had to be VERY persistent, but I've always collected what I had earned...until the last couple of years, when I've finally taken it in the shorts hard. Between Barry Grant, Crane Cams, CSR, and CMTS, I've come to the realization that I'm going to get beat out of almost 15k.

And I especially love the BG ad right next to my DFTS ad in the current issue of ND that FINALLY showed up...or the points meet scheduled at a facility in Georgia...or that Crane is posting again...good times...

Charlie Neilson is a good guy, but he can apparently only do so much to help

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David, contact the company directly. The process takes longer than expected. Sometimes you have just been overlooked, sometimes they want additional proof of purchase and sometimes they claim they have not received the info from NHRA. Whatever the reason, I believe that you will receive better results by contacting them yourself. LOL because some just don't pay no matter what you do.
I spent a lot of time on the phone after my son's runner up finishes(2) but he did receive several hundred dollars more for my time.

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I think we should start a list on here of companies that don't pay or are very slow to pay. Maybe if they are called out on it they will speed up their process. And if they don't maybe racers will quit buying from them. If a company doesn't want to pay contingency then they shouldn't sign up for it!

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No more aggravation for me as I will not advertise for ANY companies that have played games in the past....even when the economy was good certain companies still gave me grief.....it's real easy not to put a sticker on and to buy parts from their competitors as I have done.....I never did this for the money anyway....I enjoy the people and the sport....If I was stupid enough to run my business like them I would have been gone years ago.....what comes around goes around...and the economy will.... and has... bitten some of them in the asses already....I believe laughing at them is better than being aggravated by them.

Ps...Dan your right....Charlie Nielson has gone above and beyond but can only do so much.

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Are you talking about the New Crane or the old Crane?

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Forget asking NHRA first, they will tell you to contact the manufacturer directly.
I E-mailed all my contingency "requests" to the address provided on NHRA's sponsor site. ..I also copied to NHRA's Charlie Neilson.
Without exception I was e-mailed back by the folowing business day,sometimes with an apology,or at least an explanition.
I just recieved my last check from E-town which was 5 months ago, a few of the manufacturers told me the same story ,NHRA did not send them the results of the race untill November!
Comp Cams requires you to register with Contingency connection online.
I recieved their check about 2 weeks after registering.
Strange continues to be tops in my book, their check is always the first one to arrive!

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Emails don't work. Place phone calls and talk with real people.

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CSR and JW are by far the worst!!! Impact and Haulmark are not much better!!!!

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I agree with Ryan.........if there were a posting place where the manif. response time could be posted, other racer could judge as to do business with them or buy else where.

Graded if you will !

Rick

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This goes back a ways(2006).I never got paid by Weld Wheels.The excuse was they were
going bankrupt.So no dinero.Well lo and behold Greg Weld starts Greg Reld Co. and all is well,except he couldn't pay back his old debts.
I can only wish that his punishment will be to have to live out his life with sand in his briefs.

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There really are some top notch stand-up, pay your money quick contingency sponsors out there.

Before I say anything else, I must say this first. I don't know if it was lack of sleep yesterday or my chemotherapy, but it seems there are not as many deadbeat sponsors as I thought. There are a couple that want you to send them information that you have to "go get" to send to them, and I doubt that many folks send it in, so those vendors get a discount. It is kind of like offering a rebate, which you know that only 40% will send it in. But if that there rule, you got to prove you use their internal parts, and they cant find the orders, you have to belly up to the bar and find your long lost receipts.And get your engine guy to send you the copies of what he bought and put in for you.

I think I will go around the car and strip off the others decals for the ones who don't pay.

Maybe we should just list all of the really good ones, and anyone not on that list could rightly be considered to be a less than a really good contingency sponsor?

I will start it:

Fast pay, good contingency sponsors List:
ATI
Comp Cams
Jegs
Las Vegas Motor Speedway
Mark Williams Enterprises
Mopar
Moroso
Moser
Thunder Valley Raceway
VP Racing Fuels

David
The New Hemi Guy

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Dear guys who win all the time, please keep this thread going so we know who to stick on and who to tear off.

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I see Mark Williams listed in two of these post. Are they paying contigency again? I was told by them last year that they were not paying contigency anymore.

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[quote=Rick Bailey;237237]I agree with Ryan.........if there were a posting place where the manif. response time could be posted, other racer could judge as to do business with them or buy else where.

Graded if you will !

Rick[/quote



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and add Lokar to that list along with OLD Weld when Carl whatshisname (now with M/T) was in charge there.:(

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In my humble opinion (IMHO) NHRA should police this - not us

I am sure every slow or no payment has a great explanation from the sponsor


Ron

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How do companies post a new year without paying for the previous year? A well known funny car sponcer owes us for a race in 2012 and 5 races for 2013. As Dan mentioned a Fl. company is well behind in payments also. We always look to see who is paying for the comming year and buy those products send in the "W" forms and diplay their decals. That should work, you would think . But repeated emails and phone calls are still needed sometimes with zero results. But persistency will hopfully pay off. Maybe a listing of who refuses to pay would be more helpfull to the racer. We need these companies to help support us and should do everything to keep them involved. When they do what they promise tell everyone about.When they don't...............well what do you do.

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Just some info .If the sponsor does not pay out full contingency money they signed up for they have to pay NHRA the balance at the end of the year.

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JW continues on this list, but at least they pay. I'll put CASTROL at the top of my list! Still waiting for payment from winning Cecil County in August of 2012!!! And they keep telling me payment is on the way! WTF???

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This thread is from 2011.

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STRANGE ENGINEERING is one of if not THE BEST paying when Tony won the largest EVER Perfectly Strange award in Joliet in 2010 on Saturday we had the check on Monday :)

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Darn I thought Castrol would be one of the best, I was about to go buy the required 12 quarts since they pay 300/100 at divisionals. I was getting a bunch of letters in the mail about MSD going bankrupt but looks like they are posting for this year? And who is the Florida company? PM it to me if you don't want to put it out there.

How are the tire companies? Autometer? K&N oil and air?

Lastly, is dragracecontingency.com an up to date site? Some companies on there that you won't find in the dragster.

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K and N is a good contingency sponsor.Got $200.gift certificate from them for getting to the semi finals at St . Louis.

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I wouldn't put a sticker on my car for a gift certificate. How many K&N filters can you use?

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I am happy to see no Ford issues in this thread.

We have made great strides to improve our payouts to no more than 30 days once we receive the information from NHRA.

I do know that on rare occasions a payout may slip through the cracks on our end or on NHRA's.

If you do receive a payment within 60 days of your win please email an inquiry to fcntgcy@ford.com with the date, class and event you earned contingency at.

Feel free to cc me on those communications as well, jkershaw@ford.com

As we roll out more contingency programs it is critical we stay on top of payments and we appreciate your feedback.

Thanks.

-Jesse

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Note that this was for a semifinal finish, which is awarded above and beyond their monetary postings for win/ru. Having a race car (or two), a tow vehicle, and a street car, there are enormous opportunities to use K&N oil filters, air filters, and air intake assemblies. They do a tremendous amount for sportsman racing, and I for one am very appreciative.

It's the appreciation and patronage of companies that support drag racing that makes them economically viable means of marketing.

On different note, I think it says a great deal for Ford to represent themselves here in public, too. I had the pleasure of meeting Jesse at Indy last year. Young, enthusiastic, and genuinely passionate about the sport. They have a great liason that readily sets them apart.

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I won the points meet in Brainerd last year and had no issues with any of the companies. There was a couple that emailed me and it went to Junk Mail, which I didn't receive their request for W9. I sent them an email and received payment. I was really impressed. I don't have the list in front of me but by memory I recall, FAST, Comp Cams, ATI, Impact, K&N, Jegs, Summit, AFCO, PAC, Moroso, VP, Autometer, Harland Sharp, Hoosier, Strange, Aeromotive, ARP

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K& N will not pay if you actually don't have the air cleaner on in eliminations. At least they would not not pay in my case, so I took their decals off. I tried to explain its really rare for a Superstocker to actually run air cleaners, and I have them on the motorhome, but no dice.....Just to make you all aware

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Sponsors are very clear when it comes to what a competitor must do to be paid any contingency monies--- Unfortunately I wish they were as concerned about fulfilling their obligations when it's time to pay the EARNED contingency monies-- I know many racers that race with the car devoid of many "paying contingency sponsors" who for some reason manage a way to finagle out of paying!!!! It's BS we know it is- they know it is and NHRA pretends to be totally oblivious to it--- Those decals can come off in a minute if need be-- Money talks BS walks ---Pay the money it isn't gonna break em for 25-300 dollars if it is they have no business trying to be big operators. And NHRA should enforce it----Suggestion if the sponsor has not paid you in a reasonable amount of time and you satisfied all the requirements necessary. show up at their company unanounced if its close and tell them you are their to pick up your check -- you will scare the hell out of them bet you get your money ASAP- kinda a same story but I had a problem getting certain parts from a well known Transmission company---all kinds of excuses for several months from them finally got on a plane flew to their facility and announced I was tired of their BS I'm here to pick up my stuff--shoulda seen the look on their faces they were totally flabbergasted-- I picked up my parts in about 15 minutes---never had problem with them again

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http://www.nhra.com/competition/contingency-req.aspx

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Hi Michael, lookin forward to Columbus

Some don't care. Just depends. We have a Pro Trans and a Rossler Trans. Carl ( Rossler) He told me " you paid me the money for the tranny, so I'll pay". He doesn't really care which one is in the car at that particular race.

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Like I posted earlier if they dont pay out all they signed up for .They have to write NHRA a check for the balance ,so why would NHRA push this

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correct Jeff, we found that out long ago so we justt started keeping the filters somewhere in the cars and all was good no trouble getting paid. :)

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The solution to the situation regarding deadbeat sponsors in my opinion is pretty simple. We as racers communicate pretty well and we know and communicate who the good/prompt payers are and who the companies are that you have to chase to the four corners of the earth to get your contingency money. We collectivey have to not only stop advertising their company by running their product stickers but, quit buying their products. Trust me, they will eventually get the message when they see the masses not using their products. It is an important marketing tool to see their stickers and products when a racer is in the winners circle. When they see there is no product usage and product advertisment decal on cars that are in the winner/runner-up circle, they take notice. But, if you allow them to get away with their payout practices by advertising and using their products, they are going to continue to do it.

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Did the same thing years ago...bought a new Autometer playback tach and just wedged it between the seat and console with no wiring. Got payed after the finals.

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You are correct. I will never purchase another JW or CSR product. We have 3 different builds going on in my shop now, you wont see any of their products on any of them...

JW would take 15+ months to pay. Alex would email them and I talked to Beth (who is no longer there) MANY times. The next year, same thing all over again.

Wade

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CSI/CSR has always been very slow but I must admit that we ALWAYS eventually got paid, on the other hand JW has never paid us. We repaid the favor by no longer selling their products in our speed shop.We stock and sell a lot of trans shields bell housings and flexplates. None of which are JW anymore

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CSR was an absolute joke! I have used their water pump and starter since I started racing. When I wasn't getting paid by them, I called, only to be greeted by the worst customer service ever! An absolute b*#$h on the phone, stated I wasn't getting paid because I didn't send in my contingency regristration card! WTF??? Are you f'in kidding me??? But they knew I had the product!!! I will NEVER buy another CSR product EVER again!

K&N, no problems here! They help us out tremendously! JW, continues to be very slow, but eventually pays.