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TinSoldier 3215 02-04-2011 10:27 PM

BAD NEWS for SS/JA CARS!!!!
 
Well, Just got the word from Dr. Taylor that the little (305) from Hebron,Ky made it out of surgery and she will be in rehab for a couple of weeks!!! Stay Tuned for further UPDATES!!!!!:D:):D:)

Ed Wright 02-04-2011 10:45 PM

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That's great, and that is a good running little car. But, we all are going to have to deal with Lloyd Wolford's new Dodge DP and that new Mustang (sorry, forgot his name). Legit cars are going to be in trouble next year until (if) they get enough hp hits.

Charley Downing 02-05-2011 07:24 AM

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Unless Dr Taylor performed magic and converted your 305 to a ford 352 or a dodge 360 your still *****d.

gmeyer 02-05-2011 10:27 AM

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Play nice charlie bob lol
greg

Bob Pagano 02-05-2011 10:47 AM

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And you wonder why others have bad mouthed you, there is your answer.

Charley Downing 02-05-2011 11:02 AM

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Bob, people bad mouth me for telling it like it is no BS. Some people can't handle real facts.
A 305 CANNOT RUN WITH A NEW 352 or a 360 END OF STORY THANKS FOR PLAYING.

Sonny Stancil 02-05-2011 11:09 AM

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WOW 1 bad 305 i think we will run modified

Greg Hill 02-05-2011 11:09 AM

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There's nothing like a bogus hp rating to make a fast car.

Chad Rhodes 02-05-2011 11:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Hill (Post 238313)
There's nothing like a bogus hp rating to make a fast car.

sure beats the hell out of hard work huh?

Charley Downing 02-05-2011 11:26 AM

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Greg and Chad you guys kill me you think there is no hard work involved in building one of these new cars. There is no less work in building a 2010 mustang then in building a 1971 camaro. Good parts cost the same no matter what car they go in.

Greg you forgot about bogus heads and intakes. Oh wait all Stocker pre 2008 already have these parts

Greg Hill 02-05-2011 11:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Charley Downing (Post 238321)
Greg and Chad you guys kill me you think there is no hard work involved in building one of these new cars. There is no less work in building a 2010 mustang then in building a 1971 camaro. Good part cost the same no matter what car they go in.

Charlie, I didn't say anything about hard work. They all take work to build. Not all are capable of 1.5 seconds under the index.

Ron E 02-05-2011 11:39 AM

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Charlie, I'd tend to agree with your statement. The answers needed to get an edge on the other new cars is not a known quantity. That part of it is exciting.
Once again, the bitch is the factors, not the cars. When the battle really heats up between the new cars, the ET's will drop big time. There are big chunks of power left to find in these new combos, not so in the '71 Camaros. With the factors so "wrong" now, it's likely to be even worse. Love the cars, hate the factoring.

Ed Wright 02-05-2011 01:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonny Stancil (Post 238312)
WOW 1 bad 305 i think we will run modified

Promise?? LOL

Ed Wright 02-05-2011 01:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron E (Post 238323)
Charlie, I'd tend to agree with your statement. The answers needed to get an edge on the other new cars is not a known quantity. That part of it is exciting.
Once again, the bitch is the factors, not the cars. When the battle really heats up between the new cars, the ET's will drop big time. There are big chunks of power left to find in these new combos, not so in the '71 Camaros. With the factors so "wrong" now, it's likely to be even worse. Love the cars, hate the factoring.

I agree. Love the cars themselves. Can't blame anybody for building one. Just don't like the idea of having to race one in class or heads up.

TinSoldier 3215 03-06-2011 12:52 PM

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Who needs a ford 352 or a dodge 360????? When you have DR. Taylor Power!!!!!!!!!!! And did I Mention...... SHE NOT SCARED!!!!!!! COME AND GIT YOU SUM!!!! THANKS FOR PLAYING!!! And this is No One out of the Terrell camp talking this!!!!!!!! That's ONE BAD (305)!!!:D:D:D We raced 25 years ago in stock and super stock.

Chad Rhodes 03-06-2011 12:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesracing (Post 244200)
Who needs a ford 352 or a dodge 360????? When you have DR. Taylor Power!!!!!!!!!!! And did I Mention...... SHE NOT SCARED!!!!!!! COME AND GIT YOU SUM!!!! THANKS FOR PLAYING!!! And this is No One out of the Terrell camp talking this!!!!!!!! That's ONE BAD (305)!!!:D:D:D We raced 25 years ago in stock and super stock.

if you're looking for somewhere to talk ****, might i suggest www.yellowbullet.com

lstanford 03-06-2011 06:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesracing (Post 244200)
who needs a ford 352 or a dodge 360????? When you have dr. Taylor power!!!!!!!!!!! And did i mention...... She not scared!!!!!!! Come and git you sum!!!! Thanks for playing!!! And this is no one out of the terrell camp talking this!!!!!!!! That's one bad (305)!!!:d:d:d we raced 25 years ago in stock and super stock.

hee haw! Yeseree bob!

novassdude 03-06-2011 08:49 PM

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With any luck the DP and CJ cars will not hold back and wont be in the class for long.

Ryan_Haag 03-07-2011 02:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesracing (Post 244200)
Who needs a ford 352 or a dodge 360????? When you have DR. Taylor Power!!!!!!!!!!! And did I Mention...... SHE NOT SCARED!!!!!!! COME AND GIT YOU SUM!!!! THANKS FOR PLAYING!!! And this is No One out of the Terrell camp talking this!!!!!!!! That's ONE BAD (305)!!!:D:D:D We raced 25 years ago in stock and super stock.

When did Jeff Taylor get a PHD

Ed Wright 03-07-2011 09:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesracing (Post 244200)
Who needs a ford 352 or a dodge 360????? When you have DR. Taylor Power!!!!!!!!!!! And did I Mention...... SHE NOT SCARED!!!!!!! COME AND GIT YOU SUM!!!! THANKS FOR PLAYING!!! And this is No One out of the Terrell camp talking this!!!!!!!! That's ONE BAD (305)!!!:D:D:D We raced 25 years ago in stock and super stock.

What happened at Indy last year?

Crew Chief 03-07-2011 11:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Hill (Post 238313)
There's nothing like a bogus hp rating to make a fast car.

With the way the AHFS hit numbers got raised for this year, it will be the mid-season review before DPs and CJs get their hp ratings changed. Heads up runs against those cars are going to be a joke.

chevy620 03-07-2011 11:30 AM

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Why not have Class Eliminations where the "fastest car" counts but when regular Eliminations start.....no heads-up runs. Then the bogus factoring and other "science" is not the factor, it is the driver and car together.

That would eliminate all the worry and guys who feel they have to stay home because they are .4 short in a heads-up run.

I think you would get more cars to enter the events, drivers will win not AFHS-ratings and more new guys might build affordable combinations.

I know this isn't a popular idea, change seldom is, but seeing the interest in Stock and S/Stock declining it could be something to change that wouldn't hurt anything and might help strengthen the sport.

Jok
(used to own a nice C/SA but getting "crushed" after towing 250 miles and ending up running some "bogus-rated" car or a guy who can spend $80K on a Stocker to go .90 under in a "heads-up run" during eliminations just didn't interest me anymore. ) Loved the racers I met and the fun of racing in Stock but not the politics, that simple.

Travis Miller 03-07-2011 12:09 PM

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[QUOTE=chevy620;244338]Why not have Class Eliminations where the "fastest car" counts but when regular Eliminations start.....no heads-up runs. Then the bogus factoring and other "science" is not the factor, it is the driver and car together.

Jok, You are making too much sense. The problem is that if there were ten cars in a class, five would be for the idea and five would be against it. Guess which five would be for and which five would be against.

But do not dispare, the tide may be turning.

Travis

(Disclaimer: Opinions expressed by me on this forum are exactly that, my opinions.)

cutta 03-07-2011 01:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonny Stancil (Post 238312)
WOW 1 bad 305 i think we will run modified

Mr. Stancil, when are ya'll gonna steal that SS/AM record from Scott Gove. I know you guys could take it in a heartbeat.

TinSoldier 3215 03-07-2011 05:03 PM

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Hey Ed, Went red against cotton rd 1 :mad:

TinSoldier 3215 03-07-2011 05:08 PM

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Hey Ryan, He got his PHD when he started building engines. He makes a LOT OF POWER AND HE IS A (BAD MAN)!!!:D:D:D

Ed Fernandez 03-07-2011 05:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cutta (Post 244368)
Mr. Stancil, when are ya'll gonna steal that SS/AM record from Scott Gove. I know you guys could take it in a heartbeat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3ak_GMUJqI

art leong 03-07-2011 05:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cutta (Post 244368)
Mr. Stancil, when are ya'll gonna steal that SS/AM record from Scott Gove. I know you guys could take it in a heartbeat.

Right now with the watchful eyes of nhra upon us all.
If you put an R on the windows it will stand for "Rookie"

Ed Wright 03-07-2011 05:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesracing (Post 244401)
Hey Ed, Went red against cotton rd 1 :mad:

I must have missed that. It is a fast car, but this new stuff is going to kill us all until they get moved into the correct classes..

TinSoldier 3215 03-07-2011 06:52 PM

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Hey Ed, Don't Underestimate that (305) You Maybe Surprised What It Can Do!!! I welcome all ford 352 and dodge 360's , The More the Merrier Because The (305) Wants to PLAY!!!:D:p:D IT'S Called The BIG BOY'S CLUB!:D!:D

Ed Wright 03-07-2011 07:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesracing (Post 244425)
Hey Ed, Don't Underestimate that (305) You Maybe Surprised What It Can Do!!! I welcome all ford 352 and dodge 360's , The More the Merrier Because The (305) Wants to PLAY!!!:D:p:D IT'S Called The BIG BOY'S CLUB!:D!:D

Good luck. Hope he does well.

cutta 03-07-2011 11:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by art leong (Post 244404)
Right now with the watchful eyes of nhra upon us all.
If you put an R on the windows it will stand for "Rookie"

Well he would be safe if they only ran for the record and then the back up run. It would trigger a review but most SS/AM cars don't run anywhere close to 1.00 under. I would bet most are in the .60 to .70 range. At the end of it, they shouldn't get anything if I understand the system correctly.

Ed Fernandez 03-08-2011 12:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cutta (Post 244486)
Well he would be safe if they only ran for the record and then the back up run. It would trigger a review but most SS/AM cars don't run anywhere close to 1.00 under. I would bet most are in the .60 to .70 range. At the end of it, they shouldn't get anything if I understand the system correctly.

Not many can run a 7,but I know one.

cutta 03-08-2011 12:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 244491)
Not many can run a 7,but I know one.

There's actually three that have run those numbers this year and quite a few that don't show all of there cards but have the potential to.

Randy Jones: He usually runs out west but his participation is occasionally as he runs some heads up stuff too.

Caro/Wofford: They can run the number with ease

Scott Gove: Only races regionally because I assume he has to be there run his shop

Paul Ricci, John Clegg have fast cars too and I'm sure there are some more that I'm forgetting. Don't know if Lee Sharp has a big motor handy but he could step down some classes and run well.

Randall Klein 03-08-2011 10:12 AM

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SS/AH...the real Pro STOCK.

Ed Carpenter 03-08-2011 10:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 244491)
Not many can run a 7,but I know one.

Caro and Morse probably can.

X-TECH MAN 03-08-2011 11:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Randall Klein (Post 244516)
SS/AH...the real Pro STOCK.

Not unless you can have some other brands racing with them. How boring it is to watch all 68 'Cudas and 68 Darts run each other !

Ed Fernandez 03-08-2011 04:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deuces wild (Post 244521)
Caro and Morse probably can.

But they haven't.Scott did and I saw it in person.

Jared Jordan 03-08-2011 11:37 PM

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Ok, we've established that only a couple SS/AM cars can go 7's, one has actually done it, and SS/AH racing is boring....

There won't be a "real" SS/JA car that can get within 3 tenths of Stancil's DP. Look how fast Nowicki has already gone with the same combo!

Good luck to all those who want to try. The smarter play to me seems to be to avoid a HP hit of your own and let the DP's and CJ's work themselves up the food chain.

Ed Fernandez 03-09-2011 12:13 AM

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There's actually three that have run those numbers this year and quite a few that don't show all of there cards but have the potential to.

Who where and when did they go a 7 in SS/AM?


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