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Bill Baer 02-07-2011 11:23 PM

Midwest supercomp series 2011 schedule
 
MIDWEST SUPERCOMP SERIES 2011 SCHEDULE

· May 14th: RT 66 Raceway (Saturday only)

· May 21st. & 22nd. : Byron Dragway

· June 18th. : Cordova Dragway (Saturday only)

· June 19th. : Byron Dragway (Sunday only**)

· June 25th. & 26th. : Indianapolis Raceway Park @@

· July 23rd. & 24th. : Great lakes Dragway @@

· July 30th: RT 66 Raceway (Saturday only)

· August 20th. & 21st. : Byron Dragway

· September 24th. & 25th. : Byron Dragway

Notes:
**The Sunday only June 19th. Is tentative pending membership approval.
@@ indicates1/8 mi. races (both tracks are running and therefore prepping the track for 1/8mi. racing on these dates.)

If you have any questions comments or concerns we will be at the “Race & Performance Expo”@ Pheasant Run Resort in St. Charles, IL on February 26th. & 27th. Or, You can contact Rich Kwas at (708) 743-6150 or myself at (815) 458-3178.

Stay alert to the website where we will announce the date, time and location of our “spring meeting” where everyone (member or not) is welcome to attend and provide feedback and or suggestions.:)

TS310C 02-08-2011 09:13 AM

Re: Midwest supercomp series 2011 schedule
 
Why so many one day races? One of the most attractive things about running with you guys was the "2 races in one weekend" factor. I also noticed that you are not going back to Tri State. Bad experience?

Not trying to be critical, just asking.

Bill Baer 02-08-2011 09:32 AM

Re: Midwest supercomp series 2011 schedule
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TS310C (Post 238803)
Why so many one day races? One of the most attractive things about running with you guys was the "2 races in one weekend" factor. I also noticed that you are not going back to Tri State. Bad experience?

Not trying to be critical, just asking.

Well two races per one tow is our goal, but two of the racetracks didn't want a MWSCS race(s) on Sunday.
Tri-state a Bad experience? Not at all,Tri-state was a great experience, but several members (not me*) thought the tow out there was too long.

(*IMO Tri-state is a great little race track and the folks out there are some of the nicest I've met so I hope we go back soon.)

TS310C 02-08-2011 09:58 AM

Re: Midwest supercomp series 2011 schedule
 
I certainly understand how difficult it can be to schedule a series like yours. I used to be involved in a S/G association and saw first hand how it is. I think the tracks are dealing with the same financial problems that most businesses (and people) are dealing with. If they don't have enough going on that day, I am sure they are not going to want to open up just for a super comp race. Joliet has never really been that accommodating anyway. Seems like all they care about is the circle track next door.

I am sure I will still come play with you guys a few times this year. I am not sure I can tolerate listning to Leak 4 times, so I doubt I will make all the Byron races. I am disappointed there is no race at Tri State. It is a bit farther than some places, but a nice facility and very nice folks. I would also like to see a two day race a Cordova, but I guess it is close enough that it isn't that big of a deal. We will just have to see how it goes come spring.

Thanks to everyone at MWSCA for their hard work setting this series up.

TS310C 02-08-2011 10:40 PM

Re: Midwest supercomp series 2011 schedule
 
I just noticed that IRP and the Grove are both 1/8th mile. I always thought that was the stupidest thing to have an 1/8th mile race at a 1/4 mile track.

sc3912 02-23-2011 07:18 PM

Re: Midwest supercomp series 2011 schedule
 
I would like to suggest we drop the Cordova race and just make it a 2-day at Byron.

TS310C 02-23-2011 10:03 PM

Re: Midwest supercomp series 2011 schedule
 
There are already too many races at Byron! Why would they add one more. Its not the Byron super comp association.

sc3912 02-24-2011 12:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TS310C (Post 241902)
There are already too many races at Byron! Why would they add one more. Its not the Byron super comp association.

I know you had a bad experience at Byron., and dont really want to go there. I am looking at the fact that Cordova is having their points race the same day, while Byron is a test and tune along with the bikes. Also I would rather drive to only one place and save a little diesel. I pretty much have ruled out going to the Indy race if fuel prices keep going up.

Rick Bailey 02-24-2011 02:05 AM

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Jeff, wasn't Ryans deal at Joliet ? Or I am not on the same page.

I'm looking at mwsc more this year for the same reason as everyone else......expense.

Rick

Bill Baer 02-24-2011 03:36 AM

Re: Midwest supercomp series 2011 schedule
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sc3912 (Post 241868)
I would like to suggest we drop the Cordova race and just make it a 2-day at Byron.

Well were trying to be fair to the guys from the Cordova area that support us unfortunately since Cordova is open Friday night and Saturday they don't want to be open Sunday.

sc3912 02-24-2011 10:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Bailey (Post 241937)
Jeff, wasn't Ryans deal at Joliet ? Or I am not on the same page.

I'm looking at mwsc more this year for the same reason as everyone else......expense.

Rick

I was referring to the problem he had with Leek, not the crash at Joliet.

Rick Bailey 02-24-2011 12:12 PM

Re: Midwest supercomp series 2011 schedule
 
Oops.......

TS310C 02-25-2011 10:32 AM

Re: Midwest supercomp series 2011 schedule
 
Jeff,

Yes, Leak is not my favorite person but that is besides the point. The whole point to a traveling series (like MWSCA) is to travel to different tracks as they always have. If I wanted to race at the same track every weekend I would bracket race. It is fine to have a couple of races at the same track, heck even NHRA does that with division races sometimes. But when over 3/4 of the races are at the same track that is a bit much. All I am saying is that there are already enough races at one track (Byron). Regardless of what track that is, they don't need to have one more there. It is a shame they cant have a 2 day event at Cordova, but I don't see why they should change that and have one more race at Byron. I know first hand how hard it is to schedule a series like this and I don't want it to seem like I am talking bad about the people in charge. I am sure they had their hands full trying to make everyone happy. I had a great time running a couple of races last year and this is a first class group of guys! However, having said that I don't think I will be running with them as much as I had planned to with this schedule. It is unfortunate, because I was really looking forward to running most or all of the races this year. I don't plan to run that many times at Byron, I seriously doubt I will drive all the way to Indy to race 1/8th mile, and I also doubt I will go to the Grove.

Rick Bailey 02-25-2011 03:47 PM

Re: Midwest supercomp series 2011 schedule
 
1/8 at Indy ?............That seen odd, and I can't remember ever t stopping the 1/8....

Rick

TS310C 02-25-2011 06:17 PM

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Rick, I agree. It doesn't make much sense to run 1/8th mile there. However, they are being told by the track that is what they can run. I think I would skip it if it were me.

Rick Bailey 02-26-2011 11:47 AM

Re: Midwest supercomp series 2011 schedule
 
What do most guys do with stop settings on the 1/8 ??
I think in my deal, I'd have to re-invent the wheel.......
Rick

TS310C 02-26-2011 12:01 PM

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Yea, It has been a long time since I have run 1/8th mile but I think you are right. It is completely different. You would have to throw your data out the window. When I set up for 8.90 I am nowhere near 5.70 at the 18th.

Rick Bailey 02-26-2011 12:17 PM

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Darn it Ryan,...........I'm just getting Hayden accumulated to 1/4 mile racing........he's only seen 1/8 in the past 10yrs.......except for his past 2 races (in sc).

Rick.

TS310C 02-26-2011 12:44 PM

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I am not really that worried about it because I seriously doubt I will be driving all the way to Indy to race 1/8th mile and I don't think I will be going to the Grove either. It's really too bad that the tracks aren't more willing to work with these guys! This years schedule is really dissapointing and I know a couple of guys (myself included) that were planning to run most or all of the races that will not be doing that now because of it. With the economy the way it is and NHRA being the way they are, I think racers would really like to do something more like these local series races. The "2 races for one tow" idea is great when fuel is as high as it is. Plus you don't have to miss work to run these events.

Bill Baer 02-28-2011 10:17 PM

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Ryan & Rick

After talking to the IRP Manager this weekend at the performance expo, there is a strong posibillity that we will be racing the quarter mile not the 1/8th. We will know more after the March meeting. :)

Rick Bailey 02-28-2011 11:33 PM

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Bill........Thats cool !

Where I'm not saying the 1/8 is a bad thing, it's just I've never done it. I also would not really know where to start. so for one race ??

Thanks for the change.......if you get it done.

Rick

X-TECH MAN 03-01-2011 09:54 AM

Re: Midwest supercomp series 2011 schedule
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Bailey (Post 242425)
What do most guys do with stop settings on the 1/8 ??
I think in my deal, I'd have to re-invent the wheel.......
Rick

Isnt it time to get some data and learn ? Your operation would be more flexable if you had some experience, info, and data to go either way. There are a lot of 1/8 mile tracks and big money 1/8th mile races across the country. Maybe not so many as the economy has taken a big down turn and fuel prices have gone up. I have raced the 1/8th and you have to be on your game more so than the 1/4. I found it fun for me. Some hate it....some like it.....and some just go with the flow and live with it. A lot just like to complain about anything and everything. Its not the end of the world racing an 1/8th mile track and at least its racing. Not here to bad mouth but to give some food for thought. Get some data and give it a try sometime. You might like it and you would be prepared for the future races. .

Rick Bailey 03-01-2011 10:45 AM

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X,
Please read the above again. My statement was "Where I'm not saying the 1/8 is a bad thing" I wasn't knocking it. Just saying I have never done it.......Really

I've been s/c racing since 1989...........and I have only had one opportunity to ts the 1/8 and that too was with the mwsc @ Midstate maybe 15 yr ago....

There has not BEEN any 1/8 mi s/c races since.............that I'm aware of.

So what myself, and Ryan are saying "is really worth "re-inventing the wheel" for just one race........considering the expense. It's not "at the local track" for either one of us.

NOW ! the other side of the coin..............if there were quite a few 1/8 milers I WOULD give it serious consideration.............my junk is one of the slower cars 158 to 160. and to run the 1/8, that would make the fast guys dial more honest !

And Hayden, (my replacement) lol .........he don't care, he just wants to race.....

Rick Bailey 03-01-2011 11:41 AM

Re: Midwest supercomp series 2011 schedule
 
Still haven't seen anyone post here how there doing it .......numbers wise ?

Rick

TS310C 03-01-2011 12:07 PM

Re: Midwest supercomp series 2011 schedule
 
For me, I don't see any reason that I would want to take the time and money to work out a combination for 1/8th mile. I don't enjoy racing 1/8th mile and don't have many opportunities to do so. In fact the only 2 I can think of (for throttle stop racing) would be the 2 on MWSCA's Schedule. I have said it 100 times and I will say it 100 more, these guys are a pleasure to race with, a real class organization! I plan to race with them as often as feasible for me. But I don't plan to drive 3 hours to race 1/8th mile at Indy, the Grove or elsewhere. Not complaining, just stating a fact.

The cost of fuel and other factors will keep my racing to a minimum this season. I am going to have to pick my races carefully and go where it makes the most since and cost the least. Any time I can run 2 races with one tow, that makes since for me. I plan to run some of the closer NHRA stuff and a few times with MWSCA. All I was saying is that it is a shame with the way the economy and NHRA are right now, that these tracks wont do a better job working with these guys to schedule 2 day races, etc...

Bill Baer 03-01-2011 10:49 PM

Re: Midwest supercomp series 2011 schedule
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TS310C (Post 242180)
Jeff,

Yes, Leak is not my favorite person but that is besides the point. The whole point to a traveling series (like MWSCA) is to travel to different tracks as they always have. If I wanted to race at the same track every weekend I would bracket race. It is fine to have a couple of races at the same track, heck even NHRA does that with division races sometimes. But when over 3/4 of the races are at the same track that is a bit much. All I am saying is that there are already enough races at one track (Byron). Regardless of what track that is, they don't need to have one more there. It is a shame they cant have a 2 day event at Cordova, but I don't see why they should change that and have one more race at Byron. I know first hand how hard it is to schedule a series like this and I don't want it to seem like I am talking bad about the people in charge. I am sure they had their hands full trying to make everyone happy. I had a great time running a couple of races last year and this is a first class group of guys! However, having said that I don't think I will be running with them as much as I had planned to with this schedule. It is unfortunate, because I was really looking forward to running most or all of the races this year. I don't plan to run that many times at Byron, I seriously doubt I will drive all the way to Indy to race 1/8th mile, and I also doubt I will go to the Grove.

Well our thinking is that since most of us will be towing east to go home Saturday night or Sunday morning after Cordova we might as well stop in at Byron and race there Sunday . Which is one of the things we will discuss and vote on at the March Meeting.
As far as the difference between 1/8 vs 1/4 mile to me it's really the same game you just have to make up your mind sooner and in my experience we all seemed to be able to figure it out in two to three passes and I'll bet Hayden knows exactly were that 1/8 mile stipe is at! :D
I'll let you guys know what's up after the meeting

Rick Bailey 03-02-2011 12:15 AM

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Bill,,, Oh yeah.....he does at that. lol lol lol

Rick

Bill Baer 03-14-2011 06:07 PM

Re: Midwest supercomp series 2011 schedule
 
After the March MeetingThe MWSCS schedule is pretty much finalized with one small change Indy will be a 1/4 mile. races :cool:

TS310C 03-15-2011 04:34 PM

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Bill,

Thanks for the info. The change at Indy is a welcome one. Hopefully we will be able to tow out there and run with you guys.

don R 03-17-2011 01:01 AM

Re: Midwest supercomp series 2011 schedule
 
Looks good to me. Not sure if I will ever return to the grove after the starter running us knowing there was oil on the track. Then arguing it was water.


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