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Just heard the police were questioning the driver of a D/SA Mustang about owership and have been checking vehicle ID #'s on race car and tow vehicle. Believe this is the same car that the late Rob Torren and his Son raced a couple of years ago. I believe there was a question about ownership a week or so ago? Must be 50 or 60 "spectators" checking things out.

Only in NHRA!!

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I witnessed an investigation / confiscation at the old ahra world finals in spokane, wash. one year (i think it '79 or '80)... lots of cussing, swearing and bloody noses... It was not a good sight!!

all the more reason to get a legitimate title with that race car purchase and not rely on a bill of sale.

I think new car builders generally supply some sort of mso documents with their builds if there is no vin. / registration, Correct?

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They took the race car, probably his Toyota Driver also and are now looking hard at his M/H and trailer. Hunt is his last name anybody know him?

RJ

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Is it this Hunt?

GAINESVILLE, Fla. - Results of final, round 6 eliminations in Stock Eliminator at the NHRA Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series, Southeast Division, event at Gainesville Raceway:

Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed
3421 Dick Kincaid 259 David Hunt
E6 ****WINNER**** 0.086 10.552 126.90 0.058 10.803 120.27
B/SA Dial: 10.54 (+/-): 0.012 D/SA Dial: 10.76 (+/-): 0.043
Prior rounds:
E5 (J Marshall ) 0.046 10.549 -0.001 0.039 10.787 0.037
E4 (C Owens ) 0.046 10.599 0.049 (J Parker ) 0.071 10.866 0.086
E3 (M Whaley ) 0.061 10.559 0.009 (J Wahl ) 0.105 10.794 -0.006
E2 (G Glazener ) 0.078 10.589 0.009 (T Lowe ) 0.034 10.922 0.132
E1 (H Frank ) 0.026 10.716 0.186 (L Tuttle ) 0.038 10.901 0.141
Qualified: #21 10.510 -0.740 #13 10.752 -0.798

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It appears to be.
At Immokalee, FL (IHRA) he beat Scotty Richardson in Bertozzi's car in the day one Stock final. I got the impression that he was a hired driver but don't recall who he was hired by.

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Rig just left, so..............
FBI, police, entertainment tonight, MSNBC all have came and gone

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Was the rig confiscated as well or did the owner just leave the track?

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we seen the rig leave, was not watching who was driving, police car was sitting back in the spot the rig was parked, guess we watch the news at 11

Hell i was in hiding thought Lorie was having papers severed to me, lol.

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A week or two ago I saw an ad stating that the ownership of a certain race car was in question. The pic was of a 67 or 8 Mustang, appeared to be a notchback. I believe it was black and white. The ad seemed vague and I dismissed it. I searched racingjunk.com and some others, but cannot find it again.

Does that sound like the car?

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I am pitted very close to him, what a day! It is the white with black roof D/SA Mustang, the real owner got it back. He was here with his lawyer and alot of police. The police also took his daily driver some rare Nissan, right hand drive. He (Hunt) was asked to leave, I saw him driving the motorhome trailer attached of the grounds, bet he didn't get far before they stopped him.

Glenn

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Talk about the thrill of victory and the agony of defeat.

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I think this is the car David Hunt drives

http://www.classracer.com/classforum...1&d=1296958073

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Will be interesting to find out the whole story

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The rare Nissan is most likely a Skyline. Which those cars cand have titling problems these days on their own due to an issue with the company that was importing them and doing the federalization/making legal safety wise etc for america. Even if they were legit when they bought them. One of my best friends has one of the few legal Skylines in America here in Ohio.

http://www.youtube.com/user/tyndago#p/a/u/2/1OLx_j92o-g

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Even though this is probably a case of the sale of a racecar deal gone bad, it does bring up questions of ownership of racecars.

So the questions of the day become...When you bought your racecar, did you get a title and did you file it with your state authorities? Should you have? How would you prove it is your racecar? Could a racecar with no serial number be questioned by authorities?

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Probably a broken partnership or unpaid balance.

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I sold a roller '67 Barracuda around 1980 with title. Buyer paid, came to my apartment complex to pick it up and it was gone. Police report filed and I looked like the schmuck. A couple years go by and I'm out with friends late at night, go around a corner and there was the Barracuda. I called the legit owner at 1:00 a.m., he showed up with the Sheriff at sunrise and the guy that had possession of the Barracuda (appears he bought it from the thief), lost his investment which by now included many upgrades.
Lesson learned: you buy a shell and it's hot and you ad your hemi and everything else, if somebody has a police report and legit title proving ownership, your SOL and the sheriff takes it all away and hands the keys off to the legit owner!
I'll never own a car without legit / legal documents verified by MVD!
And I see ClassRacer has a car for sale and it would appear there could be an issue to address before money is exchanged. :(

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Jeff, You can get your motor and trans back if you can show you put it in the car in question, happened to me in 69 with a 67 camaro body. I took proof to the NJ state police and I was alowed to remove the engine and trans right in the impound yard.

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That's a fight I'd rather not fight! Bottom line, you take your chances without a title!

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It was posted on here last week, and is no longer on here.

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Mike,

Thank you. I thought I was going crazy. I knew I had read it and noted the "poster" and the few posts' they had, I realized rj doesn't do that. I thought it an odd post on this site.

I have the title for my car, and still have the plates and current stickers. Illinois will stick it to you for back stickers if you let it lapse.

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Not all states have a title for older cars. In NY, 73 and newer cars had them, in NH cars older than 10 years old didn't need them. My 63 Ply has never had a title and I had it registered for a short time in 71 and 78. My 70 Challenger has never had a title. Maybe I should get titles for both of them now that I live in PA, the state of corruption.

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Wasn't that car for sale in National Dragster last year some time?

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Naw, you can file a certificate of storage and not have to pay the back license fees. I have done it before.

I have titles to all my junks too.

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joe
yes it was
torron owner it and before that a guy from ohio had it

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Unfortunately this is a scenario that is going to happen often in the coming year. I was purchasing a race car from a gentleman in Virginia and ran in some problems when he couldn't come up with the proper DOT ownerships after I had made sure he had them before showing up but unfortunately all he had were the bill of sale from the previous owner. He told me he never needed them after all these years racing the car. Anyways the car was found to have been stolen in Tennessee(where the owner was happy to get it back since he didn't have insurance when his corvette was stolen in 72. The FBI has a program they call Automated Vehicle Identification(AVI) which can go back to 1956. If you think the car your purchasing is stolen or has been modified with different automobile get in touch with your local FBI office for help., They've discovered many restored antiques dealers also caught up in this. The information that I've received from the FBI is that it is illegal to transport through any state,vehicle that has a VIN number without it's ownership. CR

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The ownership is not the only thing that is questionable about that car. The FBI should tear it down while they're at it.

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Vic your correct. Original owner of the race car was Shawn Alex from Ohio, he sold the car to the Torrens. Its been listed on Ebay and RJ.com for quite a while, several people including myself tried to buy it, never got a reply from who ever posted the ads.

RJ

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Who the heck would want to steal a Ford???

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Lmao!!!

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I figured you would have something intelligent to add to this thread......I was wrong.

RJ

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One thing you can count on. The more Federal Employees they hire to fill unneeded Federal positions the more they will all need to come up with ideas to trample our freedoms under the name of something they feel is an injustice.
Race car titles, overlength motorhomes and trailers, CDL for hauling our hobbies.

They must have watched NHRA, the Feds are just "enhancing" our fun with more and more regulations. Wait until the EPS gets through with us at tech....."WHAT! you are using "leaded gasoline"...that has to stop, you are ruining the enviroment!", can't you just see the TV News talking about all that pollution we are causing....they might even give is credit for the next earthquake with those Fords hitting the start line so hard!!

Race while you can..............the Fun Police are coming!!!!


Jok

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On page 1764 of the new Affordable HealthCare (Obamacare) law says you will have to prove you have health insurance to be able to participate in a motorized competitive sport starting in 2014.

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Oh well it was nice racing with all my hillbilly friends.

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Well if the earth dont fall of its axe sis in 2012 Jok may very well be right. One never really knows for sure.

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Hmmm?

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Dwight, can you be more specific as I just searched the bill and couldn't find a reference to it. Thanks

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LOL :) I made it up.

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Bill,you have to get out more often.

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dwight, I didn't know that you had a sense of humor!