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SuperStocks@LionsDragStrip 04-24-2011 12:04 PM

Imagine the uproar if SS & Stk..........?
 
Could you imagine the mayhem, uproar, and general upheavel if Super Stock and Stock raced off the national records instead of todays format? I well remember the days, the 60s', when it was done that way. Days when guys bombed the national record and it cost various classes heavily. Wonder if the sandbaggin' and doggin' it of todays new-gen cars would cease. Just thinking and not suggesting.:rolleyes:



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Ed Fernandez 04-24-2011 12:10 PM

Re: Imagine the uproar if SS & Stk..........?
 
RIP Stock/Super Stock racing.Participation is down now.End of story.Happy Easter.

danny waters sr 04-24-2011 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 254738)
RIP Stock/Super Stock racing.Participation is down now.End of story.Happy Easter.

x-2

Happy Easter from the Waters family .....

jim powers 04-24-2011 02:57 PM

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x102

Harry 6674 04-25-2011 10:44 AM

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I prefer it the way it was. May not work now with all the money at stake but when you raced for trophys and that national record was way more fun. Money can ruin anything. Also we used to be the fan favorites.

Tony Janes 04-25-2011 11:29 AM

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I vote for the way it is now. Stock today is a bracket race with a few exceptions. It is also not a performance based eliminator, even though some of you think it is. The index system is much fairer than national records. One last statement, stock is the biggest pain in the *** that NHRA has in its eliminator system. Time for a few more liberal rules in stock eliminator.

Ed Wright 04-25-2011 11:34 AM

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Not being a fan of bracket racing, I prefer the way it was. You don't have to know anything now to be fast enough.

Mike Taylor 3601 04-25-2011 11:44 AM

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Run off records eliminates everyone except the diehard class racers and I'm afraid there just isn't that many of us left,or am I wrong about that?
Mike Taylor 3601

X-TECH MAN 04-25-2011 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony Janes (Post 254931)
I vote for the way it is now. Stock today is a bracket race with a few exceptions. It is also not a performance based eliminator, even though some of you think it is. The index system is much fairer than national records. One last statement, stock is the biggest pain in the *** that NHRA has in its eliminator system. Time for a few more liberal rules in stock eliminator.

And dont believe for a second that NHRA isnt looking for a cure for that pain in the azz if they could get enough dummys to keep sending them $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ without stock and S/S..

Alan Roehrich 04-25-2011 12:11 PM

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More liberal rules for Stock Eliminator?

I guess people won't be satisfied until they change Stock Eliminator completely, so there is nothing left of what it once was.

They won't be satisfied then, either. They'll be pissed off, wondering where the class went.

:rolleyes:

Tony Janes 04-25-2011 12:41 PM

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Alan the class or the eliminator?

Don Kennedy 04-25-2011 03:47 PM

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Stock and Super Stock Racing is in great shape. The factoring system is working, The rules are right for Stock and Super Stock and the races are fun for all and we are proud to be a part of this sport.

The normal thing of racers trying to get a edge up over the other racers has been going on since the very beginning of Drag racing by the Racers as well as the factory involvement . this is the fun and interesting part of racing also. This Stock and Super Stock classes are always being tweaked as far as the racers, the factories, and NHRA . I know we are having more fun than we ever have since 1963 and look forward to racing more as the fun level should always be a person concern , if not quit racing.

Some more comments The reason every single fun sport as well as the professional sports are down is because of the economy and just maybe the sign of the times . Our fun sport will be healthy again , in the mean time race when you can , have more fun in racing when you can and just be happy

We all have a sport that we all can race in fun and satisfying way , one comment it you are racing for the money get serious and do something else racing for money is most likely the worst investment around lol , we all have different reason we race so just be happy , I am a little tired of doom and gloom and know this to will pass a as most of us racers are happy with NHRA , IHRA and where the sport is ,now if I could just figure out how to get a advantage over the other racers lol at me

Ed Fernandez 04-25-2011 03:58 PM

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As Don would say:
Don said:Stock and Super Stock Racing is in great shape. The factoring system is working, The rules are right for Stock and Super Stock and the races are fun for all and we are proud to be a part of this sport.

The normal thing of racers trying to get a edge up over the other racers has been going on since the very beginning of Drag racing by the Racers as well as the factory involvement . this is the fun and interesting part of racing also. This Stock and Super Stock classes are always being tweaked as far as the racers, the factories, and NHRA . I know we are having more fun than we ever have since 1963 and look forward to racing more as the fun level should always be a person concern , if not quit racing.

Do you really believe this load of crap?You obviously are living and racing in a differecnt world than everybody else,except those runing the new Mustangs and DP cars.They think everything is honkey dorey.Come on Don,you can do better.

Jeff Colvert 04-25-2011 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony Janes (Post 254931)
I vote for the way it is now. Stock today is a bracket race with a few exceptions. It is also not a performance based eliminator, even though some of you think it is. The index system is much fairer than national records. One last statement, stock is the biggest pain in the *** that NHRA has in its eliminator system. Time for a few more liberal rules in stock eliminator.

Well I was going to comment on your post till I saw that you where from the Left Coast and that explains your way thinking to me. If you want to ET race thats what you need to do and let those who want to Class Race do there thing. Haven't seen that national record for ET yet myself.

Don Kennedy 04-25-2011 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 254987)
As Don would say:
Don said:Stock and Super Stock Racing is in great shape. The factoring system is working, The rules are right for Stock and Super Stock and the races are fun for all and we are proud to be a part of this sport.

The normal thing of racers trying to get a edge up over the other racers has been going on since the very beginning of Drag racing by the Racers as well as the factory involvement . this is the fun and interesting part of racing also. This Stock and Super Stock classes are always being tweaked as far as the racers, the factories, and NHRA . I know we are having more fun than we ever have since 1963 and look forward to racing more as the fun level should always be a person concern , if not quit racing.

Do you really believe this load of crap?You obviously are living and racing in a differecnt world than everybody else,except those runing the new Mustangs and DP cars.They think everything is honkey dorey.Come on Don,you can do better.

Ed : Yes i do believe what i have printed and think that the doom and gloom comments are from the vocal minority and not what most of the Silent majority racers are thinking

novassdude 04-25-2011 05:56 PM

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As screwed as I would be I would rather see it run off national records than become a open to any one bracket race. People need to quite dumming down stock.

Tony Janes 04-25-2011 06:10 PM

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Jeff does that mean that if one lives in southern California they are a yankee?

The Hawk 04-25-2011 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by novassdude (Post 255013)
As screwed as I would be I would rather see it run off national records than become a open to any one bracket race. People need to quite dumming down stock.

And then after a turbo FWD Stocker or Bob Shaw`s Caddy wins the National Championship,the rules would change again because a slow car won.

Nitro Joe Jackson 04-25-2011 09:08 PM

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ok, some good SS/Stock humor

cicero819 04-25-2011 09:40 PM

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Personally stock eliminator racing has always been the only eliminator that brought out the best mechanical creativity in organized drag racing for me. It would be a great step forward for any sanctioning body to bring back Pure Stock. Now real street Challengers with Mustangs and maybe even Camaros could be competitive straight from the showroom to the strip, we could start with Divisional races, this would bring in a much needed new blood to our sport. Remember what wins on Sunday sells on Monday .NHRA missed the boat when all those new Fox body Mustangs in the 80's and 90's came into the hands of younger racers who started the 5.o series. just imagine if we could have harvested even a tenth of that participation instead of losing it outright. Don't get me wrong I enjoy Super Stock and Competition eliminator but these are classes design for more money to be spent on. Claude

ALMACK 04-25-2011 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cicero819 (Post 255069)
Personally stock eliminator racing has always been the only eliminator that brought out the best mechanical creativity in organized drag racing for me. It would be a great step forward for any sanctioning body to bring back Pure Stock. Now real street Challengers with Mustangs and maybe even Camaros could be competitive straight from the showroom to the strip, we could start with Divisional races, this would bring in a much needed new blood to our sport. Remember what wins on Sunday sells on Monday .NHRA missed the boat when all those new Fox body Mustangs in the 80's and 90's came into the hands of younger racers who started the 5.o series. just imagine if we could have harvested even a tenth of that participation instead of losing it outright. Don't get me wrong I enjoy Super Stock and Competition eliminator but these are classes design for more money to be spent on. Claude

Good points for sure !

I have been a big fan of the NMRA for 10 years now and a big fan of NHRA/IHRA class racing for 32 years.
I am amazed at how popular the 79 and later Mustangs are with the under 45 group.

Makes me wonder if there will be any younger guys in the future that will have any interest in class racing , or will the average age of the class racers keep climbing fast ?

Jeff Colvert 04-27-2011 12:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Janes (Post 255019)
Jeff does that mean that if one lives in southern California they are a yankee?

Sorry for the delay in answering your post, haven't had any power for a for days. And no I'm not here to call anybody names but by your post of wanting CHANGE to a really great sport of CLASS RACING witch is a performance based class, to a type of racing that has no real rules, ET racing, It seemes to me you liberal thinking guys are always trying to overhall something that just needs a tune up.I wont be driving eight or nine hundred miles to et race for any amount of money but I will drive a thousand to kick my buddys *** in the same class for a throphy.I have a et track 25 mi from here and thats where I et race.

Ed Wright 04-27-2011 03:02 PM

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It's so dumbed down now you don't have to know anything to make one run under the indexes. Used to be the guys that could not make a car run bracket raced. Now we are all bracket racers most of the time. Sucks.

GarysZ24 04-27-2011 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Hawk (Post 255030)
And then after a turbo FWD Stocker or Bob Shaw`s Caddy wins the National Championship,the rules would change again because a slow car won.

X2 Lane, which is partly (if not totally) why Bandimere doesn't do the High School Reunion race (at least as far as I know of), since I won the one and only 1990 race driving a 4cyl fwd Chevy Celebrity...the faster cars cried fowl, while I earned a legitimate race win, with my 20sec car.

GarysZ24 04-27-2011 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitro Joe Jackson (Post 255057)
ok, some good SS/Stock humor

Now Joe that's LMAO FUNNY!!!


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