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NHRA1285 05-12-2011 12:56 PM

Pedal mounted 2 step switch
 
The new car has an automatic, I know, but what can you do. My question, being I am automatically challenged is: What is the best switch to use for install on the brake pedal for activation of the 2 step? Thanks for any info.

Alan Roehrich 05-12-2011 01:18 PM

Re: Pedal mounted 2 step switch
 
If you're going to mount it in the pedal itself, a Dedenbear adjustable will work.

If you're going to mount it on the pedal arm, in place of the brake light switch, the Biondo/Harrington long throw adjustable will do fine.

I strongly suggest you mount a switch on the shifter that allows the two step to operate ONLY in low gear, as activating it down track is not only illegal, but can be hazardous to you, your engine, and your car.

Mile High 05-12-2011 03:56 PM

Re: Pedal mounted 2 step switch
 
I use a brake light pressue switch in a port on the line lock solenoid. Let off the peddle and away you go. A switch on the shifter so it works only on low gear is best, no down track excitement.

Jeff

Michael Beard 05-12-2011 07:15 PM

Re: Pedal mounted 2 step switch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High (Post 258193)
I use a brake light pressue switch in a port on the line lock solenoid. Let off the peddle and away you go. A switch on the shifter so it works only on low gear is best, no down track excitement.

If you feel you have to use a 2-step, a brake pressure switch is the only way to go. Using a button on the brake pedal is inherently inconsistent.

Personally, I choose to eliminate any such issues, and purely footbrake the car(s), no 2-step.

NHRA1285 05-12-2011 08:48 PM

Re: Pedal mounted 2 step switch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 258229)
If you feel you have to use a 2-step, a brake pressure switch is the only way to go. Using a button on the brake pedal is inherently inconsistent.

Personally, I choose to eliminate any such issues, and purely footbrake the car(s), no 2-step.

I use a pressure switch on the 4 speed car but the 2 step is set so high that tapping the brakes does not effect it. The automatic car picks up quite a bit with the two step but I may foot brake it for a bit.

Lew Silverman 05-13-2011 12:53 AM

Re: Pedal mounted 2 step switch
 
Just my opinion, but I think in order to make the brake switch/2-step work you're going to need a brake pressure gauge plumbed in there too. This way you'll be able to get some consistency with your brake application.

Lew

hookdaddy 05-13-2011 01:00 AM

Re: Pedal mounted 2 step switch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High (Post 258193)
I use a brake light pressue switch in a port on the line lock solenoid. Let off the peddle and away you go. A switch on the shifter so it works only on low gear is best, no down track excitement.

Jeff

Doesn't that put you on the low RPM chip during the burnout?

Richard Grant 05-13-2011 09:14 AM

Re: Pedal mounted 2 step switch
 
Are you saying use the factory switch? Will it work? I have always just foot braked like Michael but I would like the option. I used the switch on my other car once and awhile. I think that it may have improved the et though I never proved it and I liked footbraking better.

Alan Roehrich 05-13-2011 09:48 AM

Re: Pedal mounted 2 step switch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hookdaddy (Post 258265)
Doesn't that put you on the low RPM chip during the burnout?


Wired correctly, it should be your line lock that sets the RPM limiter to the burnout chip. The brake switch, whichever you use, should set the RPM limiter to the launch chip. Both of those switches "off" should set the RPM limiter to the high side chip.

Alan Roehrich 05-13-2011 09:50 AM

Re: Pedal mounted 2 step switch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Grant (Post 258288)
Are you saying use the factory switch? Will it work? I have always just foot braked like Michael but I would like the option. I used the switch on my other car once and awhile. I think that it may have improved the et though I never proved it and I liked footbraking better.

The factory brake light switch "might" work. However, it is a short throw switch, and not very adjustable. The odds of it working correctly for you are very slim.

Alan Roehrich 05-13-2011 09:53 AM

Re: Pedal mounted 2 step switch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lew Silverman (Post 258263)
Just my opinion, but I think in order to make the brake switch/2-step work you're going to need a brake pressure gauge plumbed in there too. This way you'll be able to get some consistency with your brake application.

Lew

Lew, to me, this would seem to be the ultimate in consistent use of a two step on the brakes. If you were to stage every time at the exact same pressure, the distance and time required to release the two step would be the same.

Mile High 05-13-2011 10:25 AM

Re: Pedal mounted 2 step switch
 
I've been using the 2 step since 1996 and I have a switch on the dash. Do the burn out throw the switch then once in high gear turn it off. It's such a habit that while at the Nitro Jam in San Antonio ( footbrake class) I kept reaching for the switch. A brake pressure gauge would probably keep you more consistant . The factory 64 Falcon brake light switch that screws into the master cylinder is what I use.

A friend of mine wired his to the brake light switch on his 72 Nova at first and it worked well. Then he drilled and tapped the master cylinder to use the Ford pressure brake light switch and he says its reacts quicker. He doesn't have a line lock but does use a low gear only switch for the 2 step.

Jeff

Chad Rhodes 05-13-2011 04:14 PM

Re: Pedal mounted 2 step switch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 258292)
The factory brake light switch "might" work. However, it is a short throw switch, and not very adjustable. The odds of it working correctly for you are very slim.

Alan, the factory brake switch has worked very well in Dad's car, however I tried to do that in the camaro and it didn't like it at all. I have a harrington button sitting on my desk ready to go in before i come up there

gmonde 05-13-2011 06:37 PM

Re: Pedal mounted 2 step switch
 
the brake presure gauge is key to setting your two step at the brake presure that will hold you car at the line with out puting way more presure than needed to release the the two step,i also have a light in the gauge cluster to show at what presure the two step is activated ,,,,this is part of being consistant on reation times ,example: you may have the light on at 700 psi, but you need 1100 psi to hold the car in place ,the presure or travel has to move that much further to release the the two step,resulting in a timing issue of when to release you left leg,the more presure your left leg has to hold the worse your reaction ,,,,this is just my experience ,,,,work in progress gmonde

Rob Petrie E395 05-15-2011 10:32 AM

Re: Pedal mounted 2 step switch
 
This is how I did the one that I had on my bracket car. Its a B&M Transbrake button mounted to a piece of 1/4 inch thick aluminum angle. I can get as much pressure as I want and not break it. Its up just high enough that when I stop my foot naturally misses it. Its ok but I think one of the switches that Folk Racecars sells might be better.


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