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Greg Reimer 7376 05-23-2011 11:56 AM

Ibuprophin vs. reaction times
 
Just curious. What could be the result of using pain relievers like aspirin and ibuprophin(Advil) before racing? Does it slow down your lights, or is that another old wives' tale? Just curious.

Charlie Yannetti 05-23-2011 01:40 PM

Re: Ibuprophin vs. reaction times
 
LOL.. how much you figuring on taking, Greg??.. I've taken a normal dose of Advil or Excedrine for a headache while racing with no ill affects on my reaction times.. but if you're gonna swallow the whole bottle, I'd bet you might be a tad late on the tree when they kick in... sorry for the humor, just couldn't resist... LOL

rx dealer 05-23-2011 01:44 PM

Re: Ibuprophin vs. reaction times
 
Just old wives tale...BUT...looking at the package insert which give full desription of ibuprofen (motrin and advil) there is a less than 3% chance of this drug to cause dizziness,headache or nervousness. One of the complaint was by a 19 year old male who took 8000 mg ( that's 10 tablets of prescription only strenght 800 mg. or 40 tablets of the over the counter strenght of 200 mg ) in a 24 hour period... Lets put it this way in 18+ years owning a pharmacy the major complaint was stomach ache caused by people taking ibuprofen without food. Always take ibuprofen with food. And avoid drinking alcohol when taking this drug. If anyone read the package insert of ANY drug and look at the interactions, no one will ever take drugs, including asprin...so back to the question there is no correlation between ibuprofen and reaction time...i hope this answer your question..Luke SS 311

Ed Fernandez 05-23-2011 04:38 PM

Re: Ibuprophin vs. reaction times
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Yannetti (Post 260220)
LOL.. how much you figuring on taking, Greg??.. I've taken a normal dose of Advil or Excedrine for a headache while racing with no ill affects on my reaction times.. but if you're gonna swallow the whole bottle, I'd bet you might be a tad late on the tree when they kick in... sorry for the humor, just couldn't resist... LOL

Charlie,what would happen if I dropped a speed ball in the cell?Would I pick up .10?

Alan Warman 05-23-2011 05:32 PM

Re: Ibuprophin vs. reaction times
 
What if you need to go the other way and speed your reaction tine up.
I always drink a Monster first thing in the morning.

Eric Merryfield 05-23-2011 06:03 PM

Re: Ibuprophin vs. reaction times
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Warman (Post 260268)
What if you need to go the other way and speed your reaction tine up.
I always drink a Monster first thing in the morning.

Well I need to slow down sometimes, but if you need to speed up, coffee/caffeine will do the trick for many....you can get penguin caffeinated mints for the staging lanes will help too if your blood pressure is a bit on the low side. I use them for my 30 plus baseball games and with coffee from time to time at work.

Warning: 16 year old Beagles LOVE the chocolate flavored caffeinated mints Mr. Beasley ate the entire tin of it....which is roughly 25 beverages......he was a bit more wired than normal...lol.....and bounded about the house for a good 45 minutes.

Eric

Bret Kepner 05-23-2011 06:25 PM

Re: Ibuprophin vs. reaction times
 
For me (not neccessarily you):

One aspirin: three hundredths

One Ibuprofen: one hundredth

Mickey Whaley 05-23-2011 08:40 PM

Re: Ibuprophin vs. reaction times
 
all bs 12 pack later in the final???

Angelo DiTocco 05-23-2011 09:51 PM

Re: Ibuprophin vs. reaction times
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by boster58 (Post 260265)
Luke , what about Toprol ? heard that pro golfers and nascar guy use it to stay calm

Bo

Bo - Here is link to Vanderbilt Univ Dept of Psychology - good article on the topic (with references)... Not just someones opinion. It's been known for years that Beta-Blockers slow the heart rate and block the function of adrenaline (which raises metabolism in anxiety or pressure type situations). They have been used for "stage-fright" by performers and public speakers for years instead of a few shots or a valium. There are other performance enhancing substances (other than steroids) that are used by athletes too.
Interesting read:
http://healthpsych.psy.vanderbilt.edu/BetaBlockers.htm

The Hawk 05-23-2011 10:10 PM

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I think it depends. Is this for normal pain and aches,or fighting a hangover before first round?

Ed Fernandez 05-23-2011 10:11 PM

Re: Ibuprophin vs. reaction times
 
Yeah,just what I need,a AA/SA car doing 145 mph with a driver who slowed his reaction performance up a bit bearing down on me.Yee haaaaaaaaa.

Bob Bender 05-23-2011 11:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 260326)
Yeah,just what I need,a AA/SA car doing 145 mph with a driver who slowed his reaction performance up a bit bearing down on me.Yee haaaaaaaaa.

Yo Ed, are you off your meds again ??? Get well grandpop :confused:

Ed Fernandez 05-24-2011 12:55 AM

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rx dealer 05-24-2011 08:17 AM

Re: Ibuprophin vs. reaction times
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by boster58 (Post 260265)
Luke , what about Toprol ? heard that pro golfers and nascar guy use it to stay calm

Bo

Bo, It"s great to hear from you, Toprol is used to lower blood pressure and it's non norcotic, so I don't know why else they would take it. Those guys gotta be careful because of drug testing in nascar and pro golf...

Dwight Southerland 05-24-2011 08:21 AM

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I can't find the link right now, but a Uof FL study in conjunction with U of Michigan Center for Human Behavior showed that a regimen of foods high in antioxidents and phytonutrients improves "alertness" by over 30%. "Alertness" allows better concentration, according to the study.

Jeff Teuton 05-24-2011 09:02 AM

Re: Ibuprophin vs. reaction times
 
Two large mugs of coffee, after a night of martinis and bs. And of course Stock is out at 8 AM. Then a nap after first round. Problem Solved

Ed Wright 05-24-2011 09:42 AM

Re: Ibuprophin vs. reaction times
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 260381)
Two large mugs of coffee, after a night of martinis and bs. And of course Stock is out at 8 AM. Then a nap after first round. Problem Solved

And the young guys are all in a bad mood because they had to get sons early. The old guys are already up because they had to pee about 5:00 am. A couple of big cups of coffee, then pee again after first round.

blkjack 05-24-2011 06:10 PM

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My boss says methylphenidate would improve RT's. What say you Mr. Rx?

Jim Wahl 05-24-2011 06:44 PM

Re: Ibuprophin vs. reaction times
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blkjack (Post 260465)
My boss says methylphenidate would improve RT's. What say you Mr. Rx?

This is not funny! Methylphenidate is a stimulant and an amphetamine. Stimulants can increase blood pressure, heart rate, body temperature, and decrease sleep and appetite, which can lead to malnutrition and its consequences. Repeated use of stimulants can lead to feelings of hostility and paranoia. At high doses, they can lead to serious cardiovascular complications, including stroke. It is a med for ADHD. Jim

In short, if you abuse amphetamines you legally must change your name to Ed! (shudder).

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Paul Precht 05-24-2011 07:05 PM

Re: Ibuprophin vs. reaction times
 
I used to take two aspirins and a sandwich about an hour before first round was scheduled to be called at the Nats, it takes the edge off the nervousness. If I make it to 2nd round, I'm usually pretty relaxed. When I'm lucky enough to make it to the 4th or 5th round that nervous feeling is back big time.

Greg Reimer 7376 05-24-2011 08:29 PM

Re: Ibuprophin vs. reaction times
 
The reason I asked this is because I had heard that aspirin or Advil can mess up your lights. I've had problems with kidney stones for the last four months or so, two trips to the emergency room, and various pains and discomforts from time to time. Advils seem to work the best, and I take 4 to 6 a day, never more. Sunday I went to Irwindale for the Summit race #2, and while I got to the fourth round, my lights were uncharacteristically late. I couldn't seem to get the tree figured out all day, but there were no differences in the track. I'm going back in two weeks for race #3, then the next for race #4, then Fontana for the National Open.I'm sure I'll figure it out,but that thought crossed my mind Sunday. Meanwhile, they probably need to shatter,scatter,dynamite or nuke the stone that remains. No way will it pass. As long as illness doesn't interfere with drag racing.That's the main thing.

Jim Wahl 05-24-2011 08:57 PM

Re: Ibuprophin vs. reaction times
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Precht (Post 260477)
I used to take two aspirins and a sandwich about an hour before first round was scheduled to be called at the Nats, it takes the edge off the nervousness. If I make it to 2nd round, I'm usually pretty relaxed. When I'm lucky enough to make it to the 4th or 5th round that nervous feeling is back big time.

I really can't think of a medical reason for the aspirin to help with nervousness. Maybe it's the sandwich. Perhaps you should snack between rounds. Could be a sugar thing. Also I think everyone gets nervous to some degree while racing. Jim


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Paul Precht 05-24-2011 09:36 PM

Re: Ibuprophin vs. reaction times
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 260497)
I really can't think of a medical reason for the aspirin to help with nervousness. Maybe it's the sandwich. Perhaps you should snack between rounds. Could be a sugar thing. Also I think everyone gets nervous to some degree while racing. Jim


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Just one aspirin makes me drowsy, two with a sandwich would put me to sleep normally but in this case it counteracts the adrenalin. Wine has the same affect on me but is not an option when racing.

blkjack 05-24-2011 09:45 PM

Re: Ibuprophin vs. reaction times
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 260472)
This is not funny! Methylphenidate is a stimulant Repeated use of stimulants can lead to feelings of hostility and paranoia. At high doses, they can lead to serious cardiovascular complications, including stroke. It is a med for ADHD.

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Yes it does say all of this with the enclosures from the pharmacy.......However......
Its is funny,,,,unless you have ADHD!

Michael Beard 05-24-2011 09:50 PM

Re: Ibuprophin vs. reaction times
 
2009 Bracket Finals, I came down with the flu on Thursday of the event. I was miserable. Took a bunch of over DayQuil or something along those lines. Couldn't drive the stripe worth a darn, so I kept it dialed .01 hard and gave them "the courtesy look", but for some reason I was wrecking the tree... mostly .00x to .02x. Won Thursday gamblers, Saturday main event, and Sunday gamblers! :eek:

I've had a lot of caffiene during a race (soda), or not (Gatorade G2, or nothing), and I don't notice any difference in R/T's. 'Course I'm always running at different tracks with different rollouts, so I'm constantly adapting to whatever's thrown my way anyway. Maybe I'm compensating and not noticing.

Dwight Southerland 05-25-2011 11:35 AM

Re: Ibuprophin vs. reaction times
 
Also, remember that each person's metabolism and internal chemical processing is different. What works for one person does not necessarily work for others.

The Hitman 05-25-2011 11:42 AM

Re: Ibuprophin vs. reaction times
 
actually ran into this this weekend,
4 advil 200mg each, resulted in .015 difference between rounds.


Bret has some large bunnies!

Jim Wahl 05-25-2011 04:20 PM

Re: Ibuprophin vs. reaction times
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 260511)
2009 Bracket Finals, I came down with the flu on Thursday of the event. I was miserable. Took a bunch of over DayQuil or something along those lines. Couldn't drive the stripe worth a darn, so I kept it dialed .01 hard and gave them "the courtesy look", but for some reason I was wrecking the tree... mostly .00x to .02x. Won Thursday gamblers, Saturday main event, and Sunday gamblers! :eek:

I've had a lot of caffiene during a race (soda), or not (Gatorade G2, or nothing), and I don't notice any difference in R/T's. 'Course I'm always running at different tracks with different rollouts, so I'm constantly adapting to whatever's thrown my way anyway. Maybe I'm compensating and not noticing.

Well, that's just because you are a friggin machine!!!! JIm:rolleyes:

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Jim Wahl 05-25-2011 04:22 PM

Re: Ibuprophin vs. reaction times
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Hitman (Post 260585)
actually ran into this this weekend,
4 advil 200mg each, resulted in .015 difference between rounds.


Bret has some large bunnies!


You mean the car picked up that much! I'm gunna drop a couple of Excedrin down the carb next time out! Jim:eek:


.I've always said I thought Kepner had "big bunnies"!

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Ed Wright 05-25-2011 05:25 PM

Re: Ibuprophin vs. reaction times
 
I can tell ya Lortabs don't help a thing.

Jim Wahl 05-25-2011 06:02 PM

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Down the carb or the driver? Jim:rolleyes:

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Andys dad 05-25-2011 07:48 PM

Re: Ibuprophin vs. reaction times
 
This may be better than pills

http://slowthegamedown.com/

I might try it if Andy let's me drive - LOL

:-) peace

Ed Wright 05-25-2011 08:29 PM

Re: Ibuprophin vs. reaction times
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 260638)
Down the carb or the driver? Jim:rolleyes:

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Driver. I was popping them like breath mints last year 'till I got my shoulders fixed.


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