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Jeff Teuton 05-24-2011 09:05 AM

Want to see a mess?
 
Look at the points for the Stk/SS Class Points. That is a true glytch.

novassdude 05-24-2011 09:30 AM

Re: Want to see a mess?
 
Where do you find the points?

Tim Lisson 05-24-2011 10:09 AM

Re: Want to see a mess?
 
NHRA website, points tab, stock/SS class points...

It looks just as expected.

Tim

C and W Racing 05-24-2011 01:50 PM

Re: Want to see a mess?
 
I ran class at Houston and won, yet I'm not even listed as having any points.
So, what else is new at NHRA?
Chuck

X-TECH MAN 05-24-2011 03:55 PM

Re: Want to see a mess?
 
LOL....you have been "Enhanced" !

C and W Racing 05-24-2011 04:08 PM

Re: Want to see a mess?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 260443)
LOL....you have been "Enhanced" !

Thats what I was thinking. Lol
Chuck

Tony Janes 05-24-2011 04:45 PM

Re: Want to see a mess?
 
Explain the glitch? It has been a common mistake for a person running two cars to get points for one eliminator.

Travis Miller 05-24-2011 10:47 PM

Re: Want to see a mess?
 
I just checked NHRA.com. Looks like the "mess" got straightened out today. Coincidence or....?

Travis

(Disclaimer: Opinions expressed by me on this forum are exactly that, my opinions.)

Ken Etter 05-25-2011 12:25 AM

Re: Want to see a mess?
 
A mess is right! Somehow the guy I beat for class has more points than me! We have both only run class once this year. Must be the "Enhanced" points structure.

Jim Wahl 05-25-2011 01:47 AM

Re: Want to see a mess?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Etter (Post 260535)
A mess is right! Somehow the guy I beat for class has more points than me! We have both only run class once this year. Must be the "Enhanced" points structure.

It's because you run a MoPar! Jim


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C and W Racing 05-25-2011 08:49 AM

Re: Want to see a mess?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Miller (Post 260521)
I just checked NHRA.com. Looks like the "mess" got straightened out today. Coincidence or....?

Travis

(Disclaimer: Opinions expressed by me on this forum are exactly that, my opinions.)

It's not straightened out. I won class at Houston and my name still isn't listed with any points. Not that it matters that much, not like I'm going anywhere to chase those points. Besides, if they don't give you the points that you earn, how are you going to be able to chase them. LOL
Chuck

Charley Downing 05-25-2011 09:09 AM

Re: Want to see a mess?
 
Can't you guys find anything better to talking about/beat down. It's a new system give it time. The problems WILL work there way out. Heck I was the furthest under stick car in Topeka (STK) and I did not even get a class win. At least Charlie Nealson at NHRA who is charge of this whole thing will talk with racers about way to make this class deal better and fair. Charlie knows there are problems with the system in its currently state and is looking for ways to improve it. But like all things it's just going to take time.

jmcarter 05-25-2011 09:11 AM

Re: Want to see a mess?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by C and W Racing (Post 260560)
It's not straightened out. I won class at Houston and my name still isn't listed with any points. Not that it matters that much, not like I'm going anywhere to chase those points. Besides, if they don't give you the points that you earn, how are you going to be able to chase them. LOL
Chuck

Every time I've questioned grade points, points tally, etc. NHRA got back to me within a day with the answer and resolution. Give it a try...

Larry Hill 05-25-2011 09:46 AM

Re: Want to see a mess?
 
What is the tie breaker? It looks like 255 pts is max points for three races.

I know; a final show down in November at Great Bend Ks. All same class cars race each other to get winner of that class, winner gets 85 points. The singles run off index, winner gets 80 points. The "Champ is now determed by furthest under index.

Now that's a "TIE BREAKER"!

A very simple cost effective solution to a simple enhancement!!!

Jeff Teuton 05-25-2011 11:58 AM

Re: Want to see a mess?
 
Mess is repaired. Thank you. The Tie Breakers are being formulated at this time.

novassdude 05-25-2011 12:20 PM

Re: Want to see a mess?
 
I still dont see why a win in a single class run off is worth more than the win in the combo run off. You would think beating 4 cars should be the same no matter what.
It is pretty clear to me that NHRA does not want some odd ball (no offence to people with odd combinations) to win this title. As the way it is setup I figure it will all ways come down to what ever the tie breaker is. And any one that has to count even one race where they were in the combo run off will have no chance to win.
You would think the tie breaker system should have been anounced at the time the system was. Not well after the start of the season.

C and W Racing 05-25-2011 02:21 PM

Re: Want to see a mess?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 260588)
Mess is repaired. Thank you. The Tie Breakers are being formulated at this time.

I guess I must not have raced in Houston because I'm still not listed as having any class points. Jeff, why did you think the mess was repaired? Did you talk to someone and if so who?
Thanks, Chuck

Bryan Worner 05-25-2011 02:45 PM

Re: Want to see a mess?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charley Downing (Post 260561)
Can't you guys find anything better to talking about/beat down. It's a new system give it time. The problems WILL work there way out. Heck I was the furthest under stick car in Topeka (STK) and I did not even get a class win. At least Charlie Nealson at NHRA who is charge of this whole thing will talk with racers about way to make this class deal better and fair. Charlie knows there are problems with the system in its currently state and is looking for ways to improve it. But like all things it's just going to take time.

Before you implement a new system, you should try to have all of the bugs worked out before using it! I'm sure if these racers weren't policing it and pointing out they are not receiving the correct points, they wouldn't get them!

I speak from experience! Last season, I was not credited with the correct amount of points! I happened to notice this and called the Division office to make them aware of it! There response was "thanks for pointing this out, we will get it fixed." I asked what would have happened had I not called in, and guess what they said??? You got it.........NOTHING!

We are talking keeping track of points here! This is not rocket science! If they can't even do that right, what else are they screwing up??? It's a shame that we, the customer, have to continually make the corrections!

Jim Wahl 05-25-2011 04:46 PM

Re: Want to see a mess?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan Worner (Post 260611)
Before you implement a new system, you should try to have all of the bugs worked out before using it! I'm sure if these racers weren't policing it and pointing out they are not receiving the correct points, they wouldn't get them!

I speak from experience! Last season, I was not credited with the correct amount of points! I happened to notice this and called the Division office to make them aware of it! There response was "thanks for pointing this out, we will get it fixed." I asked what would have happened had I not called in, and guess what they said??? You got it.........NOTHING!

We are talking keeping track of points here! This is not rocket science! If they can't even do that right, what else are they screwing up??? It's a shame that we, the customer, have to continually make the corrections!

In the time Rosie was DD of D2 the points were ALWAYS screwed up! I bet I called and emailed the Division a hundred times trying to get them straightened out! Since Ritch has been the new DD I must say the points seem to be correct and the revisions are up right after the race is over. Refreshing! Jim


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Jeff Teuton 05-25-2011 09:09 PM

Re: Want to see a mess?
 
I didn't call anyone. I figured they would read it here. I thought it was funny. If you aren't in, let me know the number, class etc and I will see if I can find it.

The Hawk 05-25-2011 09:21 PM

Re: Want to see a mess?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charley Downing (Post 260561)
Can't you guys find anything better to talking about/beat down. It's a new system give it time. The problems WILL work there way out. Heck I was the furthest under stick car in Topeka (STK) and I did not even get a class win. At least Charlie Nealson at NHRA who is charge of this whole thing will talk with racers about way to make this class deal better and fair. Charlie knows there are problems with the system in its currently state and is looking for ways to improve it. But like all things it's just going to take time.

Apparently you left Topeka before they gave you your Wally. You`re listed as the "Stick Class" winner. It`s listed on DRC.

Jeff Teuton 05-25-2011 09:24 PM

Re: Want to see a mess?
 
Tie Breakers are posted.

Charley Downing 05-26-2011 05:21 AM

Re: Want to see a mess?
 
I received a call last night from Charlie Nealson with NHRA telling me they have changed the rule for the combo class in an event where class eliminations are not run. Now in an event where class eliminations are rained out the low qualifier of combo stick will receive a wally and points and the same for low qualifier in combo auto. Myself and the three other drivers in Stk/SS will receive a wally and the points for that race.

C and W Racing 05-26-2011 09:40 AM

Re: Want to see a mess?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 260668)
I didn't call anyone. I figured they would read it here. I thought it was funny. If you aren't in, let me know the number, class etc and I will see if I can find it.

Jeff, The car number is 233A, I was driving the 2008 Cobra Jet in AA/S in Houston
Thanks, Chuck


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