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chebby2 05-29-2011 09:52 PM

Pit Vehicle Charge Div.5
 
Why? Heard 10 bucks..

Ed Fernandez 05-29-2011 10:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chebby2 (Post 261204)
Why? Heard 10 bucks..

That's been the policy for a few years now.It's called "enhancement" I believe.

frank v 05-30-2011 08:38 AM

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Greed

The Hawk 05-30-2011 09:08 AM

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We`ve had that at Bandimere since about 2003. Now we`re required to have liability insurance on motorized pit vehicles for all events,not just the Mile High Nationals.

Jeff Beckman 05-30-2011 08:28 PM

Re: Pit Vehicle Charge Div.5
 
Its for real, I was there told them I would walk.

The Hawk 05-30-2011 08:33 PM

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Is this just a Division Five deal?

chebby2 05-31-2011 07:35 AM

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Div. director's deal not nhra I understand

TS310C 05-31-2011 09:14 AM

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Is this for Division races Carl? I think they are already doing something for National events. What a crock!

novassdude 05-31-2011 09:19 AM

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As I understand it is for all Div 5 tracks. The website for Top end dragway (formerly Interstate Dragway) says you must have it there and at all div 5 tracks.

chebby2 05-31-2011 11:08 AM

Re: Pit Vehicle Charge Div.5
 
just div.races.

novassdude 05-31-2011 12:36 PM

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This is what is posted at the track site.

Pit Vehicle Registration: As of Feb 2011, all pit vehicles at Division 5 and Division 4 race tracks will be required to register at time of entry. Registration will cost $10, competitors will fill out an registration form with vehicle information, owner info, as well as authorized personnel who will be operating the vehicle. This pass will be valid and honored at any Division 5 and 4 track and will be a once per year fee/registration.

SG1809 05-31-2011 12:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Hawk (Post 261341)
Is this just a Division Five deal?

It's the same here in Division 1, just something else to charge for.

chebby2 05-31-2011 02:25 PM

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These track owners need to go to Norwalk div. race. The spectators, campers bring in golf carts ,cars, scooters, 4runners etc. I guess Bader would rather have spectators and happy racers than trying to get every last dollar from racers. Having insurance on your pit vehichle should be all that is required.

Chris Williams 05-31-2011 06:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chebby2 (Post 261451)
Having insurance on your pit vehichle should be all that is required.

If there's no registration or check, how do they know if that's the case? How many pit vehicles do you think have insurance? My guess: less than 10%.

Seriously, people will piss and moan about anything. We're talking about a $10/year charge...

Ed Fernandez 05-31-2011 06:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Williams (Post 261498)
If there's no registration or check, how do they know if that's the case? How many pit vehicles do you think have insurance? My guess: less than 10%.

Seriously, people will piss and moan about anything. We're talking about a $10/year charge...

I'm open to having everybody sending me $10 yearly.Hey,it's only once a year.PM me for my address.

The Hawk 05-31-2011 07:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Williams (Post 261498)
If there's no registration or check, how do they know if that's the case? How many pit vehicles do you think have insurance? My guess: less than 10%.

Seriously, people will piss and moan about anything. We're talking about a $10/year charge...

Up here,we gat a sticker similar to one you get at a National Park for the summer. It must be dispayed on the pit vehicle. With the insurance,the track will do random checks if you`re using the pit vehicle. If you can`t show proof of insurance,you`re out for the event. It`s less than $100 a year,but after the insurance,the registration fees,NHRA memberships,it starts to add up.

Chris1529 05-31-2011 07:25 PM

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The $10 wouldn't bother me too much. It is the fact that they make you get insurance is what bothers me. I would feel really wierd going into my insurance agent asking for insurance for something that never sees a public road.

Chris Williams 05-31-2011 08:56 PM

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There have been some really nasty accidents in the last few years with people zooming around on pit vehicles, kids going all over the place at silly speeds, and whatnot.

A year ago one of our fellow racers was motoring along on a scooter when someone backed out of their pit without looking and he ended up going face first into the pavement. Lost a couple teeth, mangled their face and spent the evening in the ER (amazingly he went into the 3rd round the next day). And much worse has happened.

Insurance seems like a good idea, and if it costs $10/year to administer a program that insures people have it, and that people can be held accountable if stuff happens, that seems OK with me.

Chris Williams 05-31-2011 08:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris1529 (Post 261512)
I would feel really wierd going into my insurance agent asking for insurance for something that never sees a public road.

People buy ATV and other off-road vehicle insurance all the time: http://www.progressive.com/motorcycl...coverages.aspx

Never seeing a public road just makes it really cheap.

chebby2 05-31-2011 09:44 PM

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Chris, It's not about the 10 bucks. I wish they would check for ins. at all tracks. I have it and always will, but they don't check that they just want some extra cash. When does it stop. What's bad is some only run that div. a few races.
I guess what I mean is if they take your money make sure everyone has insurance.

The Hawk 05-31-2011 09:53 PM

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The insurance is an additional $85 to $100 a year on top of the $10 registration.

63corvette 05-31-2011 10:39 PM

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When I bought my sticker all that was required was the $10 and my Competition Number and my state drivers license number on the form.
I did not show insurance coverage of was even asked if I had it.
I asked if that covered me on insurance for the pit bike and was told NO....It was only a registration.
I am not sure what the $10 did for me??? Other than lighten my wallet...
My 10 bucks worth
Rick Cates

63corvette 05-31-2011 10:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chebby2 (Post 261551)
Chris, It's not about the 10 bucks. I wish they would check for ins. at all tracks. I have it and always will, but they don't check that they just want some extra cash. When does it stop. What's bad is some only run that div. a few races.
I guess what I mean is if they take your money make sure everyone has insurance.

Last fall at the Finals in Pomona NHRA personnel were stopping people at random on scooters and golf carts to check insurance.
I told the wife if she was stopped on the way to the staging lanes following me there to ignore them and tell them we would stop by after the pass and see them. I do not know if that would have worked or not but it could throw off your regular procedure in the staging lanes.
She was lucky and no one did stop her and ask for anything.

The time to check the insurance coverage is when you get your restricted credentials at the NHRA trailer, but wait that makes to much sense and NHRA would never do that...
My 2 Cents
Rick Cates

X-TECH MAN 06-01-2011 07:51 AM

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LOL....and it keeps getting better !

Chris1529 06-01-2011 10:12 AM

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[QUOTE=Chris Williams;261531]A year ago one of our fellow racers was motoring along on a scooter when someone backed out of their pit without looking and he ended up going face first into the pavement. Lost a couple teeth, mangled their face and spent the evening in the ER (amazingly he went into the 3rd round the next day). And much worse has happened.

who needed the insurance in this instance? Definately not the guy on the scooter. If you are riding or driving down the road and someone backs out in front of you, it is their fault-not yours.

TS310C 06-01-2011 10:23 AM

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I guess I better check into getting insurance for our golf cart now. I have never had it before. Unless it is covered by my homeowners or something. Time to call the ins agent. LOL We are racing part time this year to save money, but for some reason we just keep spending more and more.

Tell me again what the NHRA insurance we pay for is used for? We pay for it at nationals and we are supposed to get insurance with our membership as well. Not sure what that is for if we have to be insured for everything.

Gregg Teel 06-01-2011 11:15 PM

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Ours is $60 per year for coverage on injury, medical, property damage etc. Replacement for theft, fire etc. is not covered under our homeowners policy, have to buy that on its own. Replacement cost for a $4K to $5K cart is less than a $100 a year.

Gregg

Chris Williams 06-02-2011 01:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TS310C (Post 261603)
Tell me again what the NHRA insurance we pay for is used for? We pay for it at nationals and we are supposed to get insurance with our membership as well. Not sure what that is for if we have to be insured for everything.

http://nhra.com/insuranceinfo.aspx

63corvette 06-02-2011 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Williams (Post 261721)

If you read all of this closely it says your own insurance comes first and the NHRA policy is an excess over and above your insurance.

Just try and collect.....
Been there and done that....
It is a load of crap......
They just do not pay a penny....
You get stuck with all the bills and filing on your own dime.
What I was told when I asked why they would not pay I was told "We will defend ourselves as long as it takes and to the full extent of the Contract With NHRA in Court"
A real user friendly group.
My Experience
Rick Cates

Chris Williams 06-02-2011 03:36 PM

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There was no judgement on my part, in fact, I've heard others echo your comments. I was merely providing an answer to the question: what's the insurance payment for?


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