Another ss/gt ?
 

88 camaro with 69 350/255/290 combo.
we checked converter flash and only goes to 5900.( checked with launch chip out and in low gear ) 198 p/g and 557 gear and 14x32 tires, wt 3265
what should it go to, i'm thinking around 64-6500 ?
car seems to die( or drop rpm really fast) once it launches
and how much would this help in performance?
help please ............

Re: Another ss/gt ?
 

Danny, I think you're on the right track, you probably need 6600 or more. Also, you might consider moving up to a 5.86 gear.

Of course, that depends on how good your engine is. It has to be good enough to turn the necessary RPM, and make power when it does.

Consider that 5.57 with a 2.52 low and a 6600 converter is considered a decent base line for a stout big block SS car.

Get your converter out, get the serial number, and call the manufacturer to see what it is supposed to be doing in your car, if it is supposed to be in there. That will give you a good starting point.

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Danny....your son needs a bigger foot.......LOL. Seriously....listen to Alan. I listened to your car at MIR and it seemed to labor in low gear. I tried to find you later but got side tracked then you guys were gone. I ran 5.86 gears with 14X32's in a SS/IA Camaro with a 350/300 back in 1977-78 at 3220 lbs. . Todays engines are a lot stronger and they use better rods, wilder cams, stronger valve springs, ported heads, etc. that we couldnt get away with back in the day. "Sling" that puppy !

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I don't think that flash is out of line. Bout everybody that we know that has those combos, or similar ones, has their flash RPM in the 5850( Good Air) to maybe as much as 6150 in not so good air.That's just in my gang, and this is a big old country, so we might be the ones in left field......

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We have another converter and will change it by the weekend and test it . I will let you all know the outcome,hope it will be good news,....And it is a good motor with good peices

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Time to put a stick in it :-)

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Changed converter and now goes to 6400 in low gear without a launch chip..
Will test tomorrow nite ,weather permitting and will give some results (good i hope)

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Track not good and had to abort every run......
Still did not feel a lot diff and lost 4-5 mph...
Just may have to make a high $$$10.90 car out of this thing. Spent the $$'s and still going in wrong direction. Son is so fustrated ,he is thinking about retiring already.....
He is even talking about ordering a holley carb and a throttle-stop.
Anybody want some superstock engines and converters ? 69= 350/255/290 combo

Re: Another ss/gt ?
 

Danny, how are you making decisions based on aborted runs on a bad track?

I understand your frustration, trust me. I've taken to calling our Super Stock car Marvin the Martian, because it is evidently an alien, it is green, and apparently it is very angry with us earthlings. We've been flogging on this thing since March. We're hoping to get our first really decent pass next weekend.

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I am just going by what my son is telling me how it feels to him.
He actually has a lot of passes on the car ( NC east coast Martian)and he is comparing it to some of the other simular runs from the past and the seat of his pants i guess you could say.......Talking about heads-up and the rarity of it,well we are the exception to the rule. the last two races at MIR we had heads-up first round both times and trust me we were doing all we could to avoid it on the sheet but it was what some of the other qualifiers did that changed the ladder.(not intentionally)

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Danny, there have been times, including right now, where we've had to just stop. Take a deep breath. Take a night, or a weekend, or even a weekend, off. Away. Then come back, take "inventory", evaluate, and even call friends for help. We still don't know what we've got. We're probably going to take it and a relatively untested B/SA stocker to the two day combo at Bowling Green next weekend, just to get some passes on them, and see if we've "fixed" either one, or made progress.

We actually went through this with the orange car in Stock. In fact, this year, fighting with the "evil green Super Stocker as Kevin calls it, every so often, Kevin and I look at each other, and one of us will say "the stocker has spoiled us for a couple of years, how soon we forget the first two YEARS with that car were a constant struggle".

And it (the orange 69 Camaro stocker) was a complete running car that had been campaigned with relative success by Peter Biondo. The first two years, we struggled at every single race, just to be marginally competitive and somewhat consistent. There were times we went past half season with zero progress.

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Alan I can relate to that.

At least we have my stocker and it has already been through this pain. So maybe he needs to just take my stocker and play with it for a bit.....thanks for the boost

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Danny, I would be very happy to offer any help I can to get you going. I'd really hate to see you guys give up, I think you'll get a handle on it, probably sooner rather than later.

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Danny if SS is anything like stock ( at least for me) you make a change that on paper will help ...the car slows....you work more...then when all is said & done it picks up! Rem just change one thing @ a time! (doing more then that will have you chasing your tail a long time)

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car seems to die( or drop rpm really fast) once it launches
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Are you sure you're not having a fuel delivery problem? A car that worked fine before can start doing stuff like this when more power is introduced.

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Not really sure what is going on...but will keep loking i guess.....toooooo hottttt anyways...lol

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danny,I run the same combo
car wt. 3070
rear gear 600
tire 13 31s 102 roll
power glide 198 low
stall on line 3400,4000
flash 6200 shift 7800 drops to 6000
1/8 mile hot day 6.52 104
1/4 mile 10.35 127
1.34 60ft.
hope this gives you some help
Jay

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Thanks Jay

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Big danny if you tested at a local track you know that the traction sucks and it was one of the hottest days of the year keep searching

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danny, At the end 8400 rpm.....Jay

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Taking tranny out now. Gonna go through it andsee how it looks...So hot now it is really hard to compare but so much,however the tranny is acting a little funny..that may be my whole problem (i hope)