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Gordie Kissner 07-29-2011 05:26 PM

Factory Supercharged Challenger??
 
Here is a little more fuel for the Class Racer fire!

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...2012-exclusive

Chad Rhodes 07-29-2011 05:48 PM

Re: Factory Supercharged Challenger??
 
and of course there will be a drag pack version rated at 410

Gordie Kissner 07-29-2011 06:05 PM

Re: Factory Supercharged Challenger??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes (Post 271989)
and of course there will be a drag pack version rated at 410

I guess it was just a matter of time..I am a little confused at the "newly formed SRT brand",the brand has been around for some time??

Maybe the GT rating on that engine will be around 300! A new bullet for my old wagon! lol

ALMACK 07-29-2011 07:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordie Kissner (Post 271991)
I guess it was just a matter of time..I am a little confused at the "newly formed Fiat SRT brand",the brand has been around for some time??

Maybe the GT rating on that engine will be around 300! A new bullet for my old wagon! lol

Fixed it for ya. ;)

chlngr73 07-29-2011 07:35 PM

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Now thats what I'm talking about. We already have our 2013 #003 on order for early-mid 2012 delivery. Watch out CJs!!!!!!

David Buckner 4772 STK

denny harvey 07-29-2011 07:39 PM

Re: Factory Supercharged Challenger??
 
i dont think the CJs care too much,they are just playing around so far..untold power there folks...

Jeff Teuton 07-29-2011 09:49 PM

Re: Factory Supercharged Challenger??
 
NHRA has turned down Mopar for a Supercharged stock car. Unless something changes, it ain't gonna happen, I don't think Mopar proposed a SS version. Take a valium and call me next year. This is old news. Sorry. I was really thinking 415 HP just in case you were wondering. However, a 426 aluminum block Gen III Hemi is out there somewhere. I think that's the one Buckner has ordered. No rating yet. Maybe two valiums.

Jason Fuller 07-30-2011 12:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 272016)
NHRA has turned down Mopar for a Supercharged stock car. Unless something changes, it ain't gonna happen, I don't think Mopar proposed a SS version. Take a valium and call me next year. This is old news. Sorry. I was really thinking 415 HP just in case you were wondering. However, a 426 aluminum block Gen III Hemi is out there somewhere. I think that's the one Buckner has ordered. No rating yet. Maybe two valiums.

Ya,ok.....

NewHemi 07-30-2011 01:46 AM

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Too bad the supercharged stock Challenger isn't an option .. Then you might see how much the Mustangs really have if they know somebody else is able to finally actually push them down the track.

David
The New Hemi Guy

Jeff Teuton 07-30-2011 09:59 AM

Re: Factory Supercharged Challenger??
 
Ditto New Hemi

cutta 07-30-2011 03:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NewHemi (Post 272035)
Too bad the supercharged stock Challenger isn't an option .. Then you might see how much the Mustangs really have if they know somebody else is able to finally actually push them down the track.

David
The New Hemi Guy

You guys should forget the blower and think about turbos. Turbos are the future lol.

treessavoy 07-31-2011 02:21 PM

Re: Factory Supercharged Challenger??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 272016)
NHRA has turned down Mopar for a Supercharged stock car. Unless something changes, it ain't gonna happen, I don't think Mopar proposed a SS version. Take a valium and call me next year. This is old news. Sorry. I was really thinking 415 HP just in case you were wondering. However, a 426 aluminum block Gen III Hemi is out there somewhere. I think that's the one Buckner has ordered. No rating yet. Maybe two valiums.

Same old thing, been this way since the '60's.....chevy can have it, ford can have it but Mopar can't, way to go NHRA!

JimR

Ed Fernandez 07-31-2011 03:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by treessavoy (Post 272158)
Same old thing, been this way since the '60's.....chevy can have it, ford can have it but Mopar can't, way to go NHRA!

JimR

Fiat didn't pay the extortion payment Jim.

Mark Yacavone 07-31-2011 03:54 PM

Re: Factory Supercharged Challenger??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cutta (Post 272080)
You guys should forget the blower and think about turbos. Turbos are the future lol.

Yeah, sure . Brilliant .You ever run a turbo -ed Stocker? Didn't think so....

Bobby DiDomenico 07-31-2011 06:19 PM

Re: Factory Supercharged Challenger??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes (Post 271989)
and of course there will be a drag pack version rated at 410

There was a black with gold stripes Hurst Supercharged Hemi Challenger out last night with a sign claiming over 600 factory HP, about 550HP at the rear wheels, and they said it would run 11.6 as it sat. Now this was a cruise night car, so mainly it sits parked next to its older owner and his lawn chair but looked very nice and made the $47,000 2012 SS Camaro parked nearby look cheap on the window sticker.

Jeff Teuton 07-31-2011 07:39 PM

Re: Factory Supercharged Challenger??
 
A Fiat with a blower might be an option.

Tim Kish 08-01-2011 09:05 AM

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No comments about the 8-speed transmission!

Greg Hill 08-01-2011 09:07 AM

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If Chrysler doesn't start selling more Challengers they may not have a car to put all these bogus motors in. In the last year 40,000 Camaros sold, 30,000 Mustangs and only 15,000 Challengers.

BlueOval Ralph 08-01-2011 09:49 AM

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Check the numbers on Corvettes! Racing them at LeMans must be helping sale, after all it is only on the north side of 10 mil to sod it!

cutta 08-01-2011 11:14 AM

Re: Factory Supercharged Challenger??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 272173)
Yeah, sure . Brilliant .You ever run a turbo -ed Stocker? Didn't think so....

Explain please.

BlueOval Ralph 08-01-2011 12:37 PM

Re: Factory Supercharged Challenger??
 
The Vetts are not selling! Chevy can't stand Drag Racing

Mark Yacavone 08-01-2011 07:38 PM

Re: Factory Supercharged Challenger??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cutta (Post 272358)
Explain please.

Did you ever run a turbo drag car, .......any kind?

cutta 08-01-2011 09:03 PM

Re: Factory Supercharged Challenger??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 272460)
Did you ever run a turbo drag car, .......any kind?

Nope, I sure have not. Just wondering what your thoughts are on the issue.

Mark Yacavone 08-01-2011 09:55 PM

Re: Factory Supercharged Challenger??
 
My thoughts are that I think it's funny that you have an opinion on this subject without first hand or even second hand knowledge of it.

Ron E 08-02-2011 12:14 PM

Re: Factory Supercharged Challenger??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Hill (Post 272331)
If Chrysler doesn't start selling more Challengers they may not have a car to put all these bogus motors in. In the last year 40,000 Camaros sold, 30,000 Mustangs and only 15,000 Challengers.

Isn't that about the same sales ratio it's always been?

cutta 08-02-2011 12:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 272490)
My thoughts are that I think it's funny that you have an opinion on this subject without first hand or even second hand knowledge of it.

Okay, thanks for the response. Yep, I really don't have any expertise but I do believe the main challenges in accomplishing this feat would be managing boost off the line, managing trans temps if someone decides to leave on boost, weight with additional tubing that would need to be added, head sealing(as the new hemi engines can't handle tons of boost), and consistency. I talked to guy a couple years ago that bracket raced a turbo car in T/S and I asked him about the consistency of the combo(as staging a turbo car with boost seems to be a handful); He told me that as long as he leaves the line with little to no boost, he can be just as consistent as any other car out there. One of the amazing things was that he was running a 360ci SB and ran 6.60's with ease ramping the boost in downtrack and leaving with no boost.

The real question is what weight could you get the car to with the additions of one or two turbos/what size, and if you have room for an intercooler, and what boost levels would it take to make enough power to run quick ET's while leaving on zero boost. The one nice thing is that if you ever wanted to turn it up, you could by leaving on boost from the line. Quite honestly my opinion is more based on the uniqueness of this combo and the cool factor of that possibility vs. the actual feasability of it. Not only that, drag racing is already a copycat game, why not do something different?


PS: If I had my way, I would want them to put a sleeper engine option out for a possible SS engine combo. Build the 5.7/6.1/6.4's the same but put new heads on them with bigger, taller ports, bigger valves, and two 1000cfm throttle bodies, then put a crappy camshaft in it that wouldn't make major horsepower. Maybe such that you couldn't take advantage of the power unless it was used in SS application with more lift. But what can I say, I'm a dreamer


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