A revolution in SHIFTING
 

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Altronics Inc introduces "SHIFT" a revolutionary shifting system! This system replaces conventional shift linkages, shift cables, CO2 bottles, shift solenoids, and RPM boxes with one integrated, safe, reliable, and simple to use system.


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The unit currently used in our Super Stock test vehicle for the last two seasons was first shifted repeatedly over 35,000 (thirty five thousand) times on actual test fixtured transmission before being put directly into vehicle.

Click here for demo video of SHIFT->
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSccl93MGWU Shift Video

Check out our website for more info -> http://www.AltronicsInc.com

Look forward to hearing your feedback and questions on this system!

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How's that electro-magnetic clutch release coming along with NHRA approval?

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I don't understand what your question is referring to?

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And why are tracks having problems finding new blood to enter into a dying game???????????????

We need to start eliminating push button / electronic devices altogether. This kind of crap is totally ridiculous.

I can't imagine this selling well unless you're a high end SSer or Comp racer with no expense spared

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Not sure I agree with that. Carburetors are out, fuel injection is in. New blood wants computers. Every new car has fuel injection and an electronic controlled transmission not the 30 year old technology that is in most of Drag Racing today. Can't imagine to many 18 years old being interested in a carburetor.

High end? SHIFT will retail in the $600 range. Figure out how much a good conventional shifter, CO2 bottle, rpm controller will set you back?

Thanks for your input though!

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Does it work with a 16 or higher voltage system?

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Wondering if you have explored that for manual transmissions and along the way getting NHRA to accept one.

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For sure! That is what I run and we also manufacture the PowerLite Lithium 16 volt batteries if your interested.

12 or16 volt, works exactly the same with either!

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I think lack of new blood is more from lack of them not wanting to do anything that requires effort or work.
Shift in my opinion would be what new blood would want.,it is technolgy,looks like you would use your thumbs as they do texting.

Looks like good ideal and neat product, but not for me,I'll keep banging gears as long as I'm racing.
Hope you sell alot of them.
Mike Taylor 3601

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fred--interesting gadget---coupla ???? I see ya are using it with a Stef"s DEEP pan how well does it fit with
A) a standard depth pan ?
B) any type of a Trans shield it appears you have NONE in the demo film?
C) is it N/IHRA accepted?
D) the silver control panel looks like it is designed for a "normal" steering wheel will it accomodate a dragster butterfly wheel with out horrendous mounting plates/modifications?
E)What is the total weight of the whole package? vs say a 10 oz co2 and shifter plunger ???
F)Does this totally eliminate any type of aftermarket shifters ie> Hurst/Cheetah etc???

Thank you FED387

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Fred,
How much does it weigh? Could it be less than an air system and shifter?

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Nobody shifts in SS anyway looks like a good product

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Has to be lighter than my Precision shifter, cable, shift box & air bottle.
'Course, that's all paid for. Have to ask Jeanie if I can have one. LOL!

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Ed,
I have a Comp car that needs to be lite. It has Precision shifter, cable, shift box & air bottle on it. I could move them to the Roadster.
I'm still shifting my SS car. I feel I have more fun that way and gives my competition a little edge! :~)
Humm! On second though that "Shift" would allow me to keep both hands on the wheel.
Maybe it would be safer to use it in the Roadster.
I do have experience with a Roadster driving a little eratic!! :~(

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This does look like a neat product and I wish you luck.

Now all someone needs to do is invent an SFI approved skirt that pivots on the driver's seat and around the driver's waste while his car automatically shifts all the way down track, cause we wouldn't want them to jeopardize their safety by doing something as hazardous as switching a gear shift lever 1 or 2 times.

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Pan depth makes no diffrence in mounting actuator.

Meets NHRA/IHRA requirements.

Controller is designed to bolt to Grant Style wheel, but 3x4x1" size allows it to fit much smaller wheels, even butterflies I have seen (may require bracket on butterfly?) Plus Dash, floor, console, roll bar mount.

Entire system weighs less then 2.5lbs

Eliminate conventional shifters? Lets hope so...There hasn't been a cable driven shifter on an OEM car in some years!

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Thanks for the positive feedbacks! This product has taken A LOT of work, but it turned out awesome!

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Fred--thanx for answering my questions but ya missed one does it fit along side/under/over/on top of etc with scattershields either blanket type/composite or aluminum style for the different types of trans such as GM glide/350/400 or Mopar 904/727 or Fomoco c4-c6 etc--thanks FED387

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LOL,I don"t care who you arer thats funny

Kevin

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I am not familiar with every different shield/blanket type, but here is an image of how it mounts to the trans pan. I am working on instruction sheets and video as well.

http://www.altronicsinc.com/media/te...hift_mount.jpg

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Fred-----ok ---now how low does it hang down for say on a super comp dragster??? and looking at the video did I detect some movement of that whole rectangular tube as it is shifting??? seems to pivot as it goes thru the gears at that that angle bracket am I correct--- will it hit the track on the bottom side of a really low car??? it appears to be about 3-3 1/2 inches wide---that pan is probably a 2inch deep pan correct??---thanx FED387

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We have a different mount for a dragster. Not for ground clearance, but for chassis. The dragster/powerglide mount locates actuator "mid" transmission coming down on an angle. (Sorry don't have picture at this time). THis keeps it out of the way of everything. This mount will also work with doors cars too, so all powerglides may end up mounting this way.

The angle it does move is minimal as the pivot is towards the rear of the case. My headers are about 2" lower the the actuator, so although it might be possible you would need a really low car!

Actuator is on 2x2x7".

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Fred---thanx for all the info---other than your car is anybody else currently using one of these??? If so is it possible to converse with them to get feedback both pro/con

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Thank you for your feedback.

Altronics uses our own test cars to do all of our product development. (We have to justify the cost of racing some how!!!)

Although, for this product we have relied on feedback from several respected parties in the industry during development and do have a few "test" vehicles lined up.

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Fred, you said that it is NHRA/IHRA Approved but, for what classes?

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Currenly any class that allows for an electric or rpm controlled shifter.

Stock class, no definitive answer yet, Obviously drag paks and such use a electronically controlled rpm activated shifter (internal to the trans?) ?

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I can't believe you guys are busting Fred's balls over this. Somebody takes the time and R&D effort to bring something new to racers and he gets jumped on! If its not your "cup of tea" thats your privledge and right, but don't spout off on the man. Grow up.
Fred, I don't know you, but I think you've got an innovative product that many racers can use. Good luck with your product and thanks for your efforts.
Danny Durham

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Looks like a slick deal to me. If I can race again next year I'll probably try it.
Don't guess there is any reason that key pad has to be on the steering wheel?

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Amen Dan!
After years of frustration with cable operated shifters and internal solenoid valve bodies RPM switches and shift timer (all of which are on my car currently) This type of shifter is inovative I only have one suggestion make the buttons bigger to accommodate operation with gloves on.
Fred, As Dan said, I too wish you Good luck with your product and thanks for your efforts.

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THanks to both of you!

Buttons: I myself use gloves and I can tell you the buttons are very easy to push. They are mounted just above flush with the case (so they don't get pushed inadvertantly) and only require about 0.05" of throw to actuate. THrough the inital design we definitely considered gloves being used.

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Looks like a very nice product. Good job

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Looks like a nice product Fred.

As a fellow inventor, I know how it feels to introduce a new and innovative product and immediatly have the nay-sayers nit-pick it.

Good luck with your shifter.

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I think it looks great!

I HATE the shifter location in my bench seat Wagon.

This might just be the hot ticket!

Thanks for posting this!:)

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Thanks for all the Positive feedback!

Just unloading from Cordova. Great weekend!

My Dad runnered up and #1 Qualifier!

I went -0.001 red, but SHIFT worked flawless! If I could drive like my Dad I might have something.

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If it's approved for Stock, I will give it another look, a little more indepth. Cool idea though.