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JCChildress 08-10-2011 05:08 PM

Whats the fastest SB Chevy SS/GT engine
 
What would be the fastest small block Chevy that a man could build for Super Stock GT ? When I says fastest, I dont mean farthest under the index, I mean OVERALL elapsed time . I know Fogle is wicked fast but I dont know the combo. I was thinking it was a 350 with the Holley carb, but I'm sure someone will correct me. I'm just curious and daydreaming about different combos. Thanks for any help.

Tom Nolan 08-11-2011 10:04 AM

Re: Whats the fastest SB Chevy SS/GT engine
 
The 327 with small Holley carb of Byron Setters built by Gary Hettler is the fastest SBC in the west!

JCChildress 08-11-2011 10:12 AM

Re: Whats the fastest SB Chevy SS/GT engine
 
How fast is it ? I was thinking Fogle had run in the 8's or fairly close.

Daran Summerton 08-11-2011 07:49 PM

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Well considering there is Fbody's with factory shortblocks running N/A in the 9's I would guess LS1. I believe some stockers run in the 9's as well.

Adger Smith 08-12-2011 08:42 AM

Re: Whats the fastest SB Chevy SS/GT engine
 
Daran,
Is the fast LS-1 really an LS-6 that comes with the factory CNC heads?

tj310 08-12-2011 08:45 AM

Re: Whats the fastest SB Chevy SS/GT engine
 
70 350 /350 with :eek: Quadrajet, domed pistons, big valves, rated at 375 stick shift only. Seems overrated to me........Thanx Trevor

Daran Summerton 08-12-2011 09:38 AM

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Unsure Adger, I bought my wife a 2000 Z28 auto, 2.73 LSD bone stock @ Atco ran 13.10. I installed a Yank 4400 converter and it ran 12.30's stock with ET Streets. A couple years later I bought her a 2004 Zo6 6 Speed 405 hp LS6 - The camaro was faster!!! :)

JCChildress 08-12-2011 10:20 AM

Re: Whats the fastest SB Chevy SS/GT engine
 
I am talking about engines with carbs, not fuel injection. I'm sorry,I should have mentioned that. I'm real curious about the 350 with the Holley carb

Alan Roehrich 08-12-2011 12:40 PM

Re: Whats the fastest SB Chevy SS/GT engine
 
Your question is still too vague.

You're not even telling anyone what body you want to use, in what GT class.

How about a Pontiac Sunfire with a 1970 Chevy Camaro 350/360 rated at 325HP?

JCChildress 08-12-2011 01:02 PM

Re: Whats the fastest SB Chevy SS/GT engine
 
I said FASTEST E.T. , so it would probably be GT/A . In a 67 Chevy II, post car, with a stick.

ron mattson 08-12-2011 01:04 PM

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I think Alan is right, 1970 LT1 gets my vote of conventional sbc's!!!!!!

Alan Roehrich 08-12-2011 01:41 PM

Re: Whats the fastest SB Chevy SS/GT engine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JCChildress (Post 274729)
I said FASTEST E.T. , so it would probably be GT/A . In a 67 Chevy II, post car, with a stick.

The 1970 350/370 (Holley) Corvette stick only is factored at 355 for GT with factory heads. That's 2840 in GT/A not counting the driver @ 170 pounds. Shipping weight for a 66 Chevy II 2dr sedan, depending on the V8 combination, is 2825, for a 67 Chevy II 2dr sedan, it's 2800.

However, for some reason, the 1970 350/360 (Holley) is rated at 325 that's 2600 in GT/A (not counting 170 pounds for the driver and I'm not sure you can get there, or if it is legal), and the 350/350 (QuadraJet) is rated at 370 (that's 2960 in GT/A not counting 170 pound for the driver). All those are for factory heads, add 5HP for aftermarket heads if you need them.

If you're looking at a 1970 Chevy HP 350 with a Holley, I think the 350/370 stick only Corvette is what fits your car. The 1969 version is factored at 400 for GT, you don't want that.

It looks like the engine with the most closely matches what you're describing, and that fits your car, is the 1970 Corvette stick only 350/370. How fast it is, I don't know. I think your best bet is to contact Nitro Joe, and see if he has the information you want, and send him some money.

Sean Cour 08-12-2011 04:28 PM

Re: Whats the fastest SB Chevy SS/GT engine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Nolan (Post 274507)
The 327 with small Holley carb of Byron Setters built by Gary Hettler is the fastest SBC in the west!

Really? Lol....

K Stubbs 08-12-2011 05:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Cour (Post 274768)
Really? Lol....

You liked that huh Sean?? :)

Ed Wright 08-12-2011 05:59 PM

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Oops.

fredjohnston 08-13-2011 02:38 PM

Re: Whats the fastest SB Chevy SS/GT engine
 
Probably the PC Richard Cobalt. It's been several impressive 9.0 ets with the 400 small block. I guess PC Richard got tired of impressing, and swtich to the easier Ford combo.

JCChildress 08-24-2011 03:49 PM

Re: Whats the fastest SB Chevy SS/GT engine
 
I can get the car to the weight of the 350 - 360HP. That would be 2770lbs. What carb is legal on this engine ? I was told they made some other Holley carbs like the HP series legal but I dont know that for a fact . Who builds some of the fastest engines of this type out there.......Gulius ? Who else ? What heads are the heads of choice ? Thanks for any and all help.

Alan Roehrich 08-24-2011 04:34 PM

Re: Whats the fastest SB Chevy SS/GT engine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JCChildress (Post 277622)
I can get the car to the weight of the 350 - 360HP. That would be 2770lbs. What carb is legal on this engine ? I was told they made some other Holley carbs like the HP series legal but I dont know that for a fact . Who builds some of the fastest engines of this type out there.......Gulius ? Who else ? What heads are the heads of choice ? Thanks for any and all help.

No, the HP Holley carburetors are not legal for traditional Super Stock engines, traditional Super Stock requires a choke tower and the choke plate/shaft assembly. Quick Fuel has a 750/780 that is legal. Consider Jeff Taylor as a possible engine builder.

JCChildress 08-24-2011 05:15 PM

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We would build the engine ourself ( if this ever transpired...........just in the thought process now ). The car is going to Wisecarver to get a round tube ,back half, 4-link, etc and I work at an engine shop. I would get a lot of input from my buddy Jake Barbato at Jenkins Competition, We are building a mild 383 for the car now and my future plans are Super Stock. Of course saying and doing are two different things.......lol

Tom Nolan 08-29-2011 02:21 PM

Re: Whats the fastest SB Chevy SS/GT engine
 
Sean, I know your LT1 is fast as heck (your LT1 in GT/BA out runs my LT1 in GT/AA) but the 327 is the best SBC "combination", the '70 LT1 is a great engine just not the best HP factor.....

Sean Cour 08-29-2011 03:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Nolan (Post 278630)
Sean, I know your LT1 is fast as heck (your LT1 in GT/BA out runs my LT1 in GT/AA) but the 327 is the best SBC "combination", the '70 LT1 is a great engine just not the best HP factor.....

I know Tom, but he asked about the "fastest small block Chevy" combo. Factor wise, yes, the 327 is softer.

JCChildress 08-29-2011 03:47 PM

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I like the 350/360 deal. I dont know what part number carb it takes. I know my Chevy II is a light sucker. In my wild dream........I would have this car as a nice lil GT/A car. Maybe I'm being ignorant, but I appreciate all the responses.

Alan Roehrich 08-29-2011 04:08 PM

Re: Whats the fastest SB Chevy SS/GT engine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JCChildress (Post 278647)
I like the 350/360 deal. I dont know what part number carb it takes. I know my Chevy II is a light sucker. In my wild dream........I would have this car as a nice lil GT/A car. Maybe I'm being ignorant, but I appreciate all the responses.


360 350 11.00 1-4 Holley 4489-1A/SM
Carb sizes - 1686x1686/1375x1437


As much as I like the 66-67 Chevy II, I think you'll have a really hard time being competitive with the late model FWD conversion cars.

Ed Wright 08-30-2011 06:47 AM

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And those cars sure don't like wind. I'd I was going to run around 9.00 ETs at mid-140s I would probably not choose a Chevy 2. As much as I like them.


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