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Smitty 08-16-2011 11:13 PM

Best Sounding Camshaft Stock or Super Stock
 
I know this might be a lame subject but I'm gonna post it up, better than hearing guys argue about old and new class cars.
I just left my garage after starting my old Torino after an oil change and man I tell you, I have never heard a better sounding Hydraulic Flat Tappett cam in all my years of following class racing. When I put my Torino back together I was trying to do it on a budget. My racing dad and friend for life John Douglas helped me build my new engine. When discussing cam choices he says to me I have two brand new cams that you can choose from but they are identical lol. John ran a 72 HO Mustang in H/S and had two brand new in the box Cam Dynamics Hydraulic Flat tappet cams. I was skeptical at firsrt because these cams were/are low lift, smaller than the old solid Crane I ran but at $50 I couldn't go wrong. Wow! Man this Cam Dynamics Hydraulic sounds so damn good! The average Joe thinks it is a roller and when I tell them it's a hydraulic flat tappet they can't believe it.
My last one is the shaft I had in my old Super Stock Cleveland. I fought that thing for about a year trying to make it work but I came to the determination it wouldn't work with an automatic. I tell you what though, that Lunati Solid Roller sounded like popcorn. I still have it and I plan on using it some time in the near future. It may not work but I can guarantee you one thing, it might scre someone into thinking it's fast cause it sounds good lol!
Have a good night friends!

Jim Wahl 08-17-2011 02:23 AM

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John Douglas rules!!!!!!! Jim:D

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Tom Goldman 08-17-2011 08:27 AM

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Some of the 305 SBC stockers have a bad azz sound.

The 5.7-6.1 Hemi has a really nasty sound,and it should considering the compression and cam it has.

Chris Barnes 08-17-2011 01:56 PM

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Call me biased but I I love the sound of my '64 high compression 426 Max Wedge. .520" lift plus the usual ungodly duration. I can hear it from across the track.

A more surprising favorite is the one we stabbed into a '72 Maverick/Comet 302 2bbl. The lift is p-u-n-y and with the usual Stocker duration the lobes look almost square. It sounds radical.

Thumbs down? The new V10 Challengers are impressive performers but they sound lousy.

Chris Barnes
Wagons of Steel
Stock 6621

Dion Hildebrandt 08-17-2011 02:10 PM

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I dont know about best sounding (cant self proclaim) but I always have someone come up to me in the lanes and ask what size big block I have......in which I reply 300/290 horse 350. I have a comp cam for that combo and it sounds pretty crazy for a sbc, even those that know my combo are impressed with the sound (or so I have been told).

Darcy Clarke 08-17-2011 02:12 PM

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Chris

I am with you there the Max Wedge has it's own distinct sound.


I am biased as well.

Darcy Clarke
6254
AA/SA SS/JA

Rich Biebel 08-17-2011 02:28 PM

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350/255 with a Q-jet or any low compression 350.......Compression is about 9-1 but some of them sound more like 13-1


Stand behind a good one when it starts up....Q-jets make a distinct sound when they start sometimes....... A loud "Pow".....and it's running....

Last one that got my attention.....Jim Perrone......nice car, and pretty fast and the owner is entertaining......LOL

P.S. dont't take that the wrong way Jim......!

danny waters sr 08-17-2011 04:44 PM

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I am kinda partial to my little 66 283. At the races around here a lot of people don't believe it is a 283 and don't believe it has a 399 hydraulic lift cam....
Gets more looks than my son's dragster did.Being a 4-door helps even more for the non-believers.......(i love it )

chassis1 08-17-2011 04:45 PM

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Hit youtube, there are a few of them on there.....some big some small but they all sound good.....

One with the Vegas label when the stockers are heading to the lanes.....really good one...

Chassis1

Jeff Lee 08-17-2011 06:33 PM

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My opinion and obviously partial but the baddest sounding Stocker I've ever heard is my '70 AMX in D/S. And it sounded like a Jr. Fueler on my first trip to sea level in California as I went to the staging lanes first time. Too bad I blew it up on that pass... :(

ALMACK 08-17-2011 06:51 PM

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Gary Smith's 302 H.O. : (sweetness starts at :35 ) :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d43P3...eature=related

jmcarter 08-17-2011 07:00 PM

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I have to go with the max wedge, few years ago Dave Wren was warming his "thrown together" car at Mission and I was absolutely mesmerized.

Tim H 08-17-2011 07:47 PM

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I was hooked on stock eliminator because of the radical sounds of the stocker grinds. One of my personal favorites was late 1980's @ Sanair, the Le Brun 427 A/SA Camaros. More recently Jim Boudreau BB '69 Camaro has a nasty growl to it.

Todd Hoven 08-17-2011 07:48 PM

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Most stickshift stockers and superstockers, at least K and up!

Chipper Chapman 08-18-2011 10:43 AM

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I think the FI cars have the wildest sound, be it TPI305, 350 or LT1. They sound outrageous. My ZZ4 sounds pretty good too with it's square lobed hyd roller.

JP 08-18-2011 11:39 AM

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The 512 V10...

jmcarter 08-18-2011 11:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JP (Post 276182)
The 512 V10...

Sorry, but you folks need to get out of country more...LOL

treessavoy 08-18-2011 02:00 PM

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Nothing sounds better than a Max Wedge at idle......super bad, and then to hear one singing at about 6500 rpm as it goes down track....beautiful!

JimR

R Hastings 08-18-2011 04:28 PM

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I kinda like the sound of a slant six.

Chris Barnes 08-19-2011 08:57 AM

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Yesterday I finally got my Maxy down the track in less than eleven seconds and it lived to tell the tale! When it idles it sounds like a purring tiger then pull his tail and hold on!

Phil Marvetz, prince that he is, let me drive his record holding V/SA slant six wagon at the NW Nats a couple of years ago. It sounded like an angry leaf blower. In a cool sort of way.

Chris Barnes
Wagons of Steel
Stock 6621

Craig Dawson 08-19-2011 10:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Barnes (Post 275952)
Call me biased but I I love the sound of my '64 high compression 426 Max Wedge. .520" lift plus the usual ungodly duration. I can hear it from across the track.

A more surprising favorite is the one we stabbed into a '72 Maverick/Comet 302 2bbl. The lift is p-u-n-y and with the usual Stocker duration the lobes look almost square. It sounds radical.

Thumbs down? The new V10 Challengers are impressive performers but they sound lousy.

Chris Barnes
Wagons of Steel
Stock 6621

I agree with you Chris, I ran a Lunati RL stage 3 .520 lift "stocker cam" some years back and driving through the pits at 2,000 rpm everybody turned to see what was making that bad *** thump passing by them. Made alot of m.p.h. too, more than any other cam I have ever used. Plan to use it again in the future. Craig stk 3201

Denny Dormaier 08-19-2011 07:29 PM

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The max wedge is definitely one nasty sounding beast. For a small block the '68 340 Barracuda stick car has a really lumpy cam. It definitely makes you wonder whether it is a stocker or not.

Denny

Doug Blackley 08-19-2011 10:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Goldman (Post 275886)
Some of the 305 SBC stockers have a bad azz sound.

The 5.7-6.1 Hemi has a really nasty sound,and it should considering the compression and cam it has.

I'm a little partial to those 305's lol.

danny waters sr 08-19-2011 10:46 PM

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Well we have discovered one thing for sure ,and that is everybody likes their own camshafts as their (our ) choice.
Now , for the best looking 4-door stocker , i personally like the 66 Chevy II.. (wonder why?) lol

Bob Don 08-19-2011 11:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Goldman (Post 275886)
Some of the 305 SBC stockers have a bad azz sound.

I too am partial to the 305 (lol) but I gotta tell ya, Charlie Sousa's I/SA 350 Chevelle sounds really wicked!

BLIND MULE 08-20-2011 12:18 AM

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Like this thread may get one and put it in my 289 to bracket race don't care how it runs long as it sounds nasty!!!!!!

Daran Summerton 08-20-2011 08:39 AM

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Seems to me not only the cam but the headers make a distinct sound. The lighter the gauge the better, merge collector makes the pop a lil cleaner as well with the square lobe. On my oldsmobiles I like to hear the John Deere tractor roll (overlap) thats what I call it, then I know I have everything close LOL :)

ted mclemore 08-20-2011 05:29 PM

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i agree with smitty on that lunati cam for a 351c. actually is a old ultradyne roller. we had it in our 351 mach 1 and we had both chevy and mopar guys saying it was the baddest sounding car in the pits. we have a comp cam now and it sounds docile. however it performs much better!

treessavoy 08-22-2011 02:21 PM

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Next to the Max Wedge I think the Hemi A990 cars sound wicked and since it's basically the same body as the MW cars I wonder if the shape of the engine compartment doesn't have something with the harmonics.

The other Hemi cars just don't have the same sound to me.

JimR

older racer 08-22-2011 03:04 PM

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340 stick stocker with merge collectors, lovely n wicked sound.

201250 09-17-2011 09:11 PM

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I would have to say Max-wedge with "MINI EXPRESS" cam. AWESOME

Paul Precht 09-17-2011 11:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by treessavoy (Post 277095)
Next to the Max Wedge I think the Hemi A990 cars sound wicked and since it's basically the same body as the MW cars I wonder if the shape of the engine compartment doesn't have something with the harmonics.

The other Hemi cars just don't have the same sound to me.

JimR

Hi Jim, I never thought of that. A while back I commented to a SS racer as we watched the end of a stock session how great John Shaul's car sounded as he ran. Without blinking an eye he said your car sounds the same, I said wow, that's pretty cool, too bad it's not as fast. I was surprised to hear that though.

nolongerracing 09-18-2011 09:52 PM

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Bill Rink's Pontiac.......350 at 8000 rpm's!

larrylomascolo 09-24-2011 06:00 PM

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Charlie Sousa's I/SA 350 Chevelle sounds really wicked! 255hp 350ci boucher power

FrankChastain 09-25-2011 07:08 AM

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Johnny Perkins, out of Jessup, Ga, had a '65 Dodge hemi with aluminum front end.... He had "Bend it Buy It" on the front fenders....Thought that was the best sounding auto in the country and this was in '65 or '66....

pfordamx 09-30-2011 05:16 PM

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Garrett ghezzis ss/ma 290 amx sounds about as wicked as anything I've ever heard

ron mattson 09-30-2011 05:57 PM

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70 300hp/350 stocker with a big cam and rich primaries in the carb and merge
collectors= wicked cackle!!!!!!!!!

NewHemi 09-30-2011 06:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Goldman (Post 275886)
The 5.7-6.1 Hemi has a really nasty sound,and it should considering the compression and cam it has.

They sure do! I may be somewhat biased, but just stand anywhere near the Mega Maniac when it is running, and you hear one real nasty cackle from a 5.7... And that is with stock rockers, lifters, and push rods.

David
The New Hemi Guy

Jeff Lee 09-30-2011 11:48 PM

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Yea I'm partial but an AMC sounds wicked! I can't count how many times some trackside "expert" has come up and told me how much faster I'd go if I didn't take the RPM up so high. My D/S engine barely hit 6800 RPM and they would tell me I was leaving and shifting at around 8500 RPM. This SS/H engine was only good for about 7200 RPM.
But the next engine may be quite a bit higher...:D

Try these!
http://www.youtube.com/user/superstockamx#g/u

Mark Yacavone 10-01-2011 12:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nolongerracing (Post 283466)
Bill Rink's Pontiac.......350 at 8000 rpm's!

Really? (now)


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