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Paul Precht 08-31-2011 10:37 PM

It's kind of sad to see
 
The Max Wedge cars become obsolete almost overnight. They had a good run of almost 50 years so I shouldn't complain, The Hemi cars are next. Hey, they'll make really cool nostalgia cars. I guess I have the same feeling in my gut that the flat head Ford guys did when technology passed them by. I think the 383 still has possibilities though, Shhhhh.

Ed Fernandez 08-31-2011 10:51 PM

Re: It's kind of sad to see
 
Paul,how about 50 some years from now when the old farts (who are young guns now)
grieve for the Mustangs,DPs and probably the Camaros that aren't competitive with the latest offerings from Fiat,Nissan,Honda and Sforgart (Russian) and Sandbuggy (Arab Motors).

Chris Barnes 09-01-2011 12:12 AM

Real Men Need Two Carbs!
 
NOOOOOOOO!!!

I was born in 1965 and they'll bury me in my '64 Max Wedge wagon. Like any good Max Warrior I'll fix it/make it faster next time!

The 383 is just a rumor, like decent Seattle weather...

Chris Barnes
Wagons of Steel
Stock 6621

Jim Carter 09-01-2011 01:12 AM

Re: It's kind of sad to see
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 279241)
Paul,how about 50 some years from now when the old farts (who are young guns now)
grieve for the Mustangs,DPs and probably the Camaros that aren't competitive with the latest offerings from Fiat,Nissan,Honda and Sforgart (Russian) and Sandbuggy (Arab Motors).

Drag Racing 50 years from now? Aren't you a tad optimistic there Ed??
Fifteen years max!!

I'l bet you a case of Pepsi!

goinbroke2 09-01-2011 06:09 AM

Re: It's kind of sad to see
 
Pffft, there will always be dragracing. The question is what type. Class will still be around but it might be changed around some.
Dragracing in general though? As long as there are two guys with two of anything, they will race them. I caught my boys "dragracing" shopping carts in an empty isle the other week. Younger one was losing so the older one spotted him. Bracket racing is too confusing for the average spectator, yeah right!

Jim Wahl 09-01-2011 08:31 AM

Re: It's kind of sad to see
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Carter (Post 279262)
Drag Racing 50 years from now? Aren't you a tad optimistic there Ed??
Fifteen years max!!

I'l bet you a case of Pepsi!

15 years? Now who's the optimist? At the rate of decline we will be lucky to see 5 years!! I'll bet you that case of Pepsi on that! Jim:eek:



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danny waters sr 09-01-2011 09:29 AM

Re: It's kind of sad to see
 
Mmmm....I better start trying to sell my ride now .May have to start going to car shows if thet still be around....;)

Frank Castros 09-01-2011 09:36 AM

Re: It's kind of sad to see
 
Some tough decisions for guys like Shaul and Mosbeck. The Barton guys have already made theirs. Unless NHRA creates new classes for the CJs and DPs.

X-TECH MAN 09-01-2011 11:50 AM

Re: It's kind of sad to see
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Castros (Post 279303)
Some tough decisions for guys like Shaul and Mosbeck. The Barton guys have already made theirs. Unless NHRA creates new classes for the CJs and DPs.

There is always Nostalgia Super Stock and circut races of which there a lot of on the east coast.

Greg Hill 09-01-2011 02:00 PM

Re: It's kind of sad to see
 
It's not just the Max wedge cars that are in danger of becoming obsolete. Any car in AA through L is in danger of becoming obsolete. On a more positive note, I keep hearing that the new cars are going to have their own classes next year, although I'll believe it when I see it.

Chris Barnes 09-01-2011 03:17 PM

Re: It's kind of sad to see
 
The Max Wedge program became obsolete when it was superseded by the Hemi in mid '64!

When I went to the NW Nats my program wasn't just non competitive, it was a freaking fiasco but many many people sought out my pit to look at the big orange monster. Fans like the oddball stuff. Some of them even like the historical stuff, not just ugly old Mopars. The nostalgia displays at every event bear this out. My point is that diversity is one of the things that makes Stock interesting.

I've spent thousands of dollars and hours on my Max Wedge program and I've had my forehead stepped on by a lot of different combinations but I'll keep coming back. I'm even building a new Max Wedge car!

I hope they do something with the DPs and CJs so they can really let their performance loose. The BS is deep enough. I don't mind bracket racing against them but I don't deserve a heads up against that!

Chris Barnes
Wagons of Steel
Stock 6621

Chris Barnes 09-01-2011 05:04 PM

Re: It's kind of sad to see
 
My understanding is that they took some hp off the '63s. I don't know if they would do that for the '64s. There are a couple of them in the nines. I think the new cars need classes of their own. Enough with the horsepower games and corporate marching orders already!

Chris Barnes
Wagons of Steel
Stock 6621

Paul Precht 09-01-2011 07:52 PM

Re: It's kind of sad to see
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Barnes (Post 279422)
My understanding is that they took some hp off the '63s. I don't know if they would do that for the '64s. There are a couple of them in the nines. I think the new cars need classes of their own. Enough with the horsepower games and corporate marching orders already!

Chris Barnes
Wagons of Steel
Stock 6621

I had heard that the 63 low comp would go down 10 hp to 405, where it was back in the 80s but a recent check on NHRA still showed it at 415. Some people think that NHRA may not want S and SS to go on much longer, that may or may not be true. If they want to keep it alive and healthy I think the new cars should have their own class. Some people want to race a new car and can afford it, some want but cant afford it and if they cant use what they already own they will drop out. Then there are people like me who wouldn't race a new car even if they had a few million in the bank and if they cant find a way to keep the old car competitive they will drop out also. The main reason I race is because of my love for the 63 Ply I've owned and raced since 71 and to see how well I can make it run building every inch of the drivetrain myself on a small budget. I love my Challenger but it's going to be very strange not having pushbuttons and although it is still a budget car I'll have almost half as much as I paid for my house into it before I'm done.

X-TECH MAN 09-01-2011 07:56 PM

Re: It's kind of sad to see
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Precht (Post 279458)
I had heard that the 63 low comp would go down 10 hp to 405, where it was back in the 80s but a recent check on NHRA still showed it at 415. Some people think that NHRA may not want S and SS to go on much longer, that may or may not be true. If they want to keep it alive and healthy I think the new cars should have their own class. Some people want to race a new car and can afford it, some want but cant afford it and if they cant use what they already own they will drop out. Then there are people like me who wouldn't race a new car even if they had a few million in the bank and if they cant find a way to keep the old car competitive they will drop out also. The main reason I race is because of my love for the 63 Ply I've owned and raced since 71 and to see how well I can make it run building every inch of the drivetrain myself on a small budget. I love my Challenger but it's going to be very strange not having pushbuttons and although it is still a budget car I'll have almost half as much as I paid for my house into it before I'm done.

IHRA has the Low Comp. 1963 Max Wedge engine rated at 405 for stock. If NHRA drops stock and S/S there are going to be some mighty expensive 9.90 and 10.90 cars out there other than the ones that already run the .90 classes.


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