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Can someone please provide a list of the different engines and the year in which they were installed, that were or are available for the CJ Mustangs? Especialy the engine in Charley Downings K/Stk Mustang. Did they offer a pushrod 428 in any of the new generation cars ?As I was looking at the entry list for the US Nationals, I saw different size engines entered in the same class. Thank you in advance!!

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click on to the following;http://www.nhraracer.com/content/gen...635&zoneid=132 Then click onto Ford 2008, Ford 2010 and Ford2012

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2008 CJ was just the 5.4 (330ci/425hp).

2010 CJ had the 4.6 (281ci/235hp), 5.4 (330ci/435hp), 352/285hp, 428/375hp.

2012 CJ 302/325hp, 5.4 (330/450hp) 5.4 (330/510hp)

Hope that helps. To have a 2010-12 body in white would give someone many engine options for years to come. The 2008 manual car is SS only now and the 2012 510hp is SS only.

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Quick rundown on the naturally asperated CJ engines:

2010 4.6L 3V NHRA rated at 232 hp (probably the biggest "ringer" of all the CJ engines)....it is a "paper -part number" combo.
The engine was never built by Ford. It is a combo of Ford Racing catalog parts. If I wanted to build a CJ...this would be the engine I would pick. 232 hp...what a joke !!

2010 428 CJ: It is a poked and stroked 351W with F.I.
This engine also never existed as a complete crate setup. It is also a "paper-part number" combo. (Same for the 358 CJ --it's a F.I. 351W )

2012 5.0 4V CJ : This engine is loosely based on the 2011-2012 Mustang GT Coyote engine....however the compression ratio is higher due to special pistons. The cam specs are different from any production Coyote 5.0.
Also, this engine was a bunch of part numbers put together. Ford does not build these Stock Eliminator engines.


I am not real familiar with the Supercharged CJ engines.

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69Cobra, they took 3hp off the 2010 CJ 4.6 281, now 232hp. stock and super stock. Tom

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Correct. I started to list all the different hp for all the different engines but then you have different hp's for stick vs auto blah, blah, blah. So I just listed what the factory rated hp's were. It should at least let him see what's offered in what year.

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What kind of info do you want?
The 281ci CJ is 232hp in SS and the STK 281 ci CJ is 235 hp this week.
It's a great combo if you have $60,000 plus to spend on a I/SA,J/SA or K/SA stocker.

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Charley,I just looked at guide Hp. for stock and super stock the same 232. Tom

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Tom only the SS is 232hp. Per the hp changes in July of 2011. The stocker is still at 235hp. NHRA has not changed it in there on line spec's.

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Thank you for the link and information. Special thanks to 69 Cobra for serving our country!! Be safe and make that future stocker a reality!! Charley-I was at Stanton points meet and got a chance to look your car over. Beautiful car!! Was going to talk with you about car but you appeared busy so did not want to interupt. I'm 57 years old and attended first drag race at Martin 131 dragway in 1964 and saw Dyno Don Nicholson's 427 Comet race the Melrose Missle. I was hooked at 10 years old!! I tried running a 428 cj in the mid 70's on a true shoestring budget , it did not turn out good. So went bracket racing. As I am approaching retirement and my wife is disabled from a car crash, I will never be able to go racing again. I LOVE sportsman racing and my day at Stanton or the US Nationals is my once a year fix. I get to live racing through reading this forum and enjoy learning about the cars and owners. You are right Charley -- if I had $60k to go racing I would be there in a heartbeat but I don't so asking questions and learning about all the new high tech stuff keeps me involved. I woull like to say Thank You to Ford and Dodge for breating new life into this sport!! That 427 Comet from 64 was no different than todays CJ's and it got my dad excited enough to take me to the races--Thank you dad!!

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Should be more like C, D, E instead of I, J, K

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Be careful what you wish for.If they end up combining sticks and autos and he ends up in D/S, you will be racing him HEADS UP.Will it be a good race?Only time will tell I guess.

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I would have no problem racing Charlie heads up at the same weight, it would be a close race. You guys with the new cars have to have an unfair advantage though, so that will never happen.

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Poor poor Andrew and his -1.20 D/SA and E/SA car.

I think I may have JOEL Build me a C-4 for next year. I like the idea of my 281ci car kicking the ***** of old 350's in D/SA, E/SA and F/SA.

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You mean if you can get through tear down!

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Great idea! Now just to make it happen! :) 283s across the land would be thankful! LOL.

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x-2

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Belle Rose next year? Great place for a grudge match!

Andrew vs. Charley! Ford vs. Chevy! Old vs. New! Full Throttle Racer vs. Half Throttle racer.

This could be fun! I bet we could get some people to chip in if you guys could come up with rules of engagement!

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ouch ! Lol

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I am just saying. These are 2 high quality cars.

Arguable factors. Maybe get a couple impartial but knowledgable guys to help with the factors and try to come up with some parity and let the guys duke it out on the Tune and Test day at Belle Rose.

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Go for it! You might have to take that throttle stop off and go fast enough to get around 90 HP though.

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I will be in columbus with the same parts I had at INDY. We will see if I get to race?
Andrew I am game for anything. If I were to get 50 hp I could run E/SA at #2970. I don't see all the crying over a little 281.

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Good Luck Charley. Hope to see that killer under full power!

I would probably get my rear kicked even racing you in E, but I sure would like a shot at it.

Better than trying to race you in J anyway. You have the power to get to E all by yourself.

Just run her out a few hundered feet more. LOL.

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James just put the 283 back in her and we can race all the time. I will even give you a small head start. Even if I beat you I can't pass tech.

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Define Small. LOL.

I thought Ford fixed their clerical error on the parts anyway. Not done yet ?

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No the clerical error is fixed.
Just for you James I will run it balls out to 800ft this weekend.

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Don't get too wild, people will think you got a bromance going for us 283 racers.

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Well, since this thread is about CJ engines, I do have a question

do the 428, 352, and 281 engines that are being run in stock use a conventional style intake manifold with a throttle body on top like the Drag Paks use ?

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Dave,
The 352 and 428 use an intake and throttle body similar to the Drag Pak. The 281 uses the standard type fuel injection system.
regards, Roland

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The352 and 428 engines are old windsor SBF based pushrod motors which do use a conventional intake with a four barrel throttle body. The 281 is a mod-motor, overhead cam engine, but I think it uses the OEM style intake (composite/plastic?) with a newer style single hole TB.

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Bill,
The 281 uses a dual bore throttle body. The part number is M-9926-3V and each bore is 62 mm and it is also available with mechinical linkage. Part number M-9926-3VM.
regards, Roland