1967 Camaro with 283?
 

My dad claims their was a 67 Camaro that run @ Raven Rock in the late 60's with a 283 in stock. Did they make suck a car?

Re: 1967 Camaro with 283?
 

Yep----195 HP/283 CI available with PG auto or 3 spd manual transmissions

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I might add that this was an EXPORT Camaro engine option only--- about 120 ++ total units were built with this engine also it was RPO L32 --

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How many did they make never heard of that one.

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Still never heard of it but ok Lol.

Re: 1967 Camaro with 283?
 

actually they made---
72 manual trans ( 4 speed not 3 speed)
121 powerglide trans

total of 193 vehicles equipped with the 195/283 engine-- block codes were MD/manual trans--MJ pg trans some were coupes and some were convertibles--no smog equipment on them ---they also "supposedly " had a California emissions 195/283 engine ,block code is MP same as the 302 Z28 engine because Chevy used the same 283 block for the 302 engines

Re: 1967 Camaro with 283?
 

where is/was Raven Rock

Re: 1967 Camaro with 283?
 

Very interesting I wonder how many are still around.

Re: 1967 Camaro with 283?
 

NO !! The 302 was a 327 block with a 283 crank.

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Back then a 4-inch bore in a 283 was a "301". Very popular when those blocks were plentiful!

Wasn't the 302 in the Z/28 a 4 bolt main block?

Lew

Re: 1967 Camaro with 283?
 

On the 1967 Z-28 302 engine.

The block casting #3892657 used for 1967, was a 327 small journal block.
2.299" mains / 2.000 rod journals
And with 2-Bolt Main Caps.

A special forged steel crankshaft (casting #3815882) was 'tufftrided'.

I've heard of the 283 67' Camaro,,,,,never realized it was an
'export only car',,,with a 4-speed.

But after some research,,,,,found out they were assembled in Switzerland.

Re: 1967 Camaro with 283?
 

I'd never heard of the car, either. You learn something every day.

This trumps my previous weirdest Camaro - the new 67 SS350 I saw sitting on a dealers lot with a bench seat and a 4 speed. It had some ungodly gears in it, I'm thinking either 4.56 or 4.88. It was that dark turquoise green with redline tires, painted wheels, and bottle caps.

It sat there for quite a while and then disappeared. I never saw it again, not even at the tracks in the area.

I don't think the 396 had been released yet, so this would have been the ultimate Camaro at the time.

Re: 1967 Camaro with 283?
 

The '67 302 engine used the formentioned 657 block, "green" rods from the solid lifter 'Vette engines (which were the small journal version of the famous "pink" rods), a special crankshaft that was nitrite treated, the 30-30 solid lifter Corvette camshaft, foged pistons that had a dome similar to the original dome on the high-cormpression 327s, 2.02-1.60 valve 462 casting number heads, the unique intake manifold, 780 cfm Holley (actually the design carb was a 585 cfm carb, but it never made production), and the Corvette flat windage tray. The intake and carb made the package the killer.

The strangest engine that never made production was a 3-2bbl 350 with the Corvette 350 hp hydraulic cam and big valve heads. If you ever see a copy of an original assembly manual, there are several pages devoted to the installation details of that engine, including a drawing of the engine that used a triangular air cleaner similar to the one on the 3-2bbl Corvettes. Chevrolet had intended a small block package that would have mimicked the big block engines released in the Corvette that year. Production costs and less than acceptable performance in the warranty tests (remember that was the first year for the 5-year, 50,000 mile warranty) caused them to nix it. They were also aware that Ford was stuffing a big-block into the Mustang, Pontiac had planned from the beginning to put a 400 in the Firebird and Chrysler was releasing the 383 in the Barracuda and Dart. They needed a big-block offering so the 396 got the nod over a high-perf small block on the street.

All that info was related to me by a GM engineering manager who worked on the Camaro project. I was introduced to him when I was building my Z28 stocker in 1979.

Re: 1967 Camaro with 283?
 

look in a late 60s or early 70s Motors manual and you'll find specs for a 67 Camaro 350 horse 327. I guess the story was that Chevy was considering the 327/350 before the 350/295 was done.

Re: 1967 Camaro with 283?
 

A buddy of mine had a 327/325 4 speed in a 68 Nova that was basically a 327/350 only with a Q-jet. I havent seen one of those since, it was a 1 year only deal I think.

Re: 1967 Camaro with 283?
 

I had a friend that had that engine in a 67 4 speed Malibu. It was pretty strong though it had some highway gears.

Re: 1967 Camaro with 283?
 

Not to muddle up this thread.

But the 327/325HP (Engine Code L-79) was usually found in the
1968 Chevelle Malibu (non-SS car),,,,,,,4-speed only.

Kind of a rare car/engine combo too.

Re: 1967 Camaro with 283?
 

L79 was the hot lick in the 66-67 Chevy II---Grumpy won a lot of races with his too--my partner has an original 66 L79 Chevy II Hard top NO ITS NOT FOR SALE he has had that car for 25 years now--damn thing is quick

Re: 1967 Camaro with 283?
 

I also had a friend when I was in high school that had the same combo. His had gears the car was fast.

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So I guess that 283 camaro was running stock at a non sanctioned NHRA track?

Re: 1967 Camaro with 283?
 

Well Ed I'm not sure.....Raven Rock was just outside Portsmouth Oh. I know Riverside was just up the road & it held a points meet.....

Re: 1967 Camaro with 283?
 

There was guy a couple of years older than me who lived up the street bought a 67 with a 283 powerglide. Bone stock 2 barrel, plain jane, never been touched car. Pulled the 283 and glide, put a 427 and 400 turbo out of a county cop car. by the time he got rid of the car must have had 20 differant motors in it. Export you say?

Re: 1967 Camaro with 283?
 

Of the very few 1967 283/195HP 2-Barrel Camaro's,

if raced in 1967,,,,
classed in H/Stock

1968, M/Stock
versus all those 57' Chevy Model #210's with the 283/220HP engine.

Not sure why anyone would want a 283/195HP 2-Barrel, when the
#LF-7; 327/210HP 2-Barrel was the same cost in the 1967 Camaro.

Maybe it was a Mid-West car pricing/budgeting experiment.

Re: 1967 Camaro with 283?
 

Thing now is 283 is rated @ 170 hp would be a Q add weight to R the 327 would have to run N....

Re: 1967 Camaro with 283?
 

I had one just like that. A Gold one. I later added a 4.56 gear and a 3927140 Trans Am camshaft and Hooker headers. Street driven.

Re: 1967 Camaro with 283?
 

Thats what I thought. Porstmouth West HS stands right in the middle of it now.

Re: 1967 Camaro with 283?
 

How about a little more info on Raven Rock and Riverside drag strips? Quarter or 1/8-mile and sanctioned or not? When were they open and when closed? Sounds like Raven Rock might have been Gordon "Collectin" Collett's home track.....

Re: 1967 Camaro with 283?
 

I think in 67 and 68 the 302 had 2 bolt main caps...the 4 bolt main blocks showed up in 'DZ' 302 engines in 1969, if memory serves correct.

Re: 1967 Camaro with 283?
 

I thought all 302 were two bolt mains

Re: 1967 Camaro with 283?
 

I am not sure but were not all narrow journal small blocks 2 bolt and the wide journal 4 bolt blocks came a long in 68?

Re: 1967 Camaro with 283?
 

Dirk,

Correct,
All 327 small journal (2.299 mains) were 2-Bolt Main Caps.

Not sure on the block casting #, but some of the early 327 small journal blocks had a higher Nickel content, making them a bit stronger.

You could tell just by the way the boring bar tool bit sounded when you were boring out a cylinder, to know it was a harder block.

Re: 1967 Camaro with 283?
 

Both Raven Rock & Riverside were 1/4 mile.....Riverside went to 1/8 mile in the 70's. Raven Rock was the home track of Gordon Collect & Rodger Gustin.