2010 CJ no longer in Stock ?
 

Looks like this was just posted today.
The 2010 CJ rated at 435/490 is no longer an eligible Stocker....

http://www.nhraracer.com/content/gen...393&zoneid=132

http://www.nhraracer.com/content/gen...392&zoneid=132

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See that, It didn't take as long as you GM guys said it would. You guys should send a box of candy and a dozen roses to Skillman and Fezell (2008).

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Until they create 6.0, 6.5, and 7.0 pound weight breaks, as they supposedly plan to do.

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I think it was actually Butner who hit it first this last weekend

Besides how hard is it for them to claim it is a 2012

:-) peace

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Hey Ron,
Congrats on your good showing in 'Vegas.
There a few differences between the 2010 and 2012 Mustangs in stock, most notably the camshafts, which as you could imagine, isn't a quick change.

See you at the races,
Wayne Kerr

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They will change the pulley on the supercharger and leave the cams alone, the 2012 has more lift than the 2010.

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It's actually a lot more than that.....sounds like you're pretty familiar Larry....you must be getting ready to get one.....lol

I'm sure we could put some panther pink stripes on one of those white ones.....

Thanks so much for the pictures and reporting.....it makes it a little easier for all of us that would love to be there....

Rock...

Tell Mr Jeff I said Hi.....

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I'd like to be the fly on the wall at the meeting in Glendora trying to figure out how they'll sneak them back into Stock.They'll be a lot of squirming in the cushy padded seats in the board room.

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From a very reliable source, it's already a done deal. Three new weight break classes will be added over the winter. 6, 6.5, and a 7.0

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yea and they are going to drop all the index's 3 more tenth's.

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Common sense would put these specific classes in SS if for nothing else the common weight breaks with SS/A,B and C.

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Billy you have been around long enough to know not to use comman sense and NHRA in the same sentence.

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Billy,

Bruce Bachelder has been telling racers all year that these new classes were coming. I guess this new car nonsense has nothing to do with common sense and everything to do with money. But another shoe could drop this winter and it might cost them much more than they have gained.

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Do stockers on a 9" tire really need to be going well into the 8s at 155+ mph? That is how fast they will be going at 6 lbs/hp

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So now that Bo Butner cant run Stock , Is his Div point lead now in trouble with the last divisional being Vegas this week for Stock Div championship ??

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Bob, pretty sure his girlfriend's ( Randi Lynn Shipp ) firebird is at his disposal. Think he even owns it. She's a great racer in her own right BTW, maybe she will even get a shot at Super Stock.

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They were not stupid - they already new all they had to do was change the pulley and "voila" it becomes a 2012

Bo has been racing a long time and knows his stuff

They will be capable of going real fast this weekend with a lighter car


:-) peace

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Yes indeed, this Bo knows but you may have overlooked this from NHRA...
The horsepower rating for 2012 Ford Cobra Jet, entries with the 330 cubic inch engine and a factory rating of 510 currently rated at 527, has been increased by twenty four horsepower, to 551 horsepower; for Super Stock Eliminator.

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Oh dont worry Jim im sure Ron will have a answer for your post as well !! lol : )

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The super stock combination is different than the stock engine. so That rule change won't affect the cars in stock
Chuck

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Correct

Wierd - why do I find myself defending the CJs - LMAO

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I think that what this will lead to is safety requirements equal to what the fast cars have. Let's face it, if one of these cars loses control at 150 MPH and crosses into your lane it could spell diaster, especially for one of the slower cars that require only a minimum amount of safety equipment.

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Mike,

I know I shouldn't post this because it would "make sense", but if that were the case, it would be nice to let us know soon so that updates can be planned and taken care of.

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I've long said that safety requirements should be based on the ET/MPH, and chassis construction of the vehicle. (and potentially that of the other cars in the class). Setting safety rules by class designation makes no sense. I drove one Super Stocker that had a different set of safety rules depending on what stickers were on the windows. :confused:

I ran the Turismo at a big money Box race this year, and drew a Top Sportsman car first round. I broke out .001, then looked up to see the guy sideways in front of me in my lane. Had he lost it behind me instead of beside/after me, it would've been ugly. They're never really beside you... they're either 400' behind you or 400' in front of you. THROUGH you... not so good.

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Mike is right about this. Fast cars on small tires is not new, just new to NHRA. Stiffer requirements on cages, safety gear etc are on the horizon.

Wade O

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....and that's why my former V/SA ride carried "unnecessary" roll bar and frame connectors - just in case.

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I've been trying to tell you guys it is not that simple but no one would listen.
The 2010 CJ stocker has an iron block and the 2012 is aluminum. So it's not quite as easy as some of you think. No "voila" here.

See you at the races,
Wayne Kerr

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What about the new rule that you can run any block from the approved list? I believe there are a few LS1's out there that have gone to a steel block.

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Check the replacement block numbers

Bo's car is already to run tomorrow in the Stk/SS combo race

:-) peace

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Mike,

I posted this exact same thing earlier in the year and was flamed for it. Many people don't want to think about what could happen. Many people are from the "I see nothing and I hear nothing-therefore I know nothing".

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Ed:
First they'll conduct a bogus survey that say stock racers are clamoring for new and lower weight breaks as indicated above. Along with an new AAAA/S class.
Then they'll say we asked for lower class indices because we been working on our stuff.
Third, they will allow a marine cams that are a drag pak option that lowers the hp by 200 hp over advertised street cars.
Fourth they'll defend items 1,2 and 3 as good for the sport.
You'll hear: People are gonna line the fences like they did this year. Everyone coming back from Iraq will order one like back in the 60's when Viet Nam vets came home. Oh yeah!!
It's funny how the same guys who took out mortgages to buy a new race car are now telling others to get out of the 60's. But then they are the first to say race on "Sunday, sell on Monday."
Golly, just like the 60's. Except this ain't the 60's socially or economically.

Didn't your Gremlin have a 440 six pack drag pak option, Ed??

Have a great day.
JC

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You're right Jimmy.The guys who are calling us complainers/whiners are the ones
spending their retirements on a product that the idiots in charge are doing their best to
make extinct with their lack of focus and direction (except how to millk the cash cow for as long as they can for their retirements).
My gremlin had the secret crossram hemi 258 six cylinder option available,but I didn't have the extra $19.95 to spend at the time.

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Jim, I think you nailed it. LOL!

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You guys have it wrong, they will start with the 6.0 lbs. per to be A stock and follow down to where if you don't have a 10 sec. car you'll be out of Stock. This way they get two problems out of the way in one swoop. The closure rate will be OK, and it will speed up the program not having to deal with the slow a&& stockers. Who are they going to piss off, the slow no money racers, does anyone think that NHRA gives a crap. I'm in that same club and expecting something like that from NHRA. They will tell you to take the slower cars and race the 14.0, 13.0 and 12.0 classes. They have already started that race structure here in D2.
I'm being sarcastic, but probably not far from the truth!

Casey Miles
248H Stock?

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Where does a 6# class car go when it gets enough power to no longer be eligible for stock?

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A 5.5 lb class.

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Super Stock

And for those that like to bicker, like it or not we're all in this together. No wonder NHRA pushes us ALL around. We're on the same team

United we stand, Divided we fall…

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LOL....in 2016 there will probably be a 2.5 class....

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After the 5.5 and 5.0 class, you bypass Super Stock completely and go direct to Pro Stock.

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So how do the 68 Cuda's & Darts play into this are they 6.0 lb cars? They made as many of them as the Mustangs and if I remember correctly they came with 10" tires from Hurst ?