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BRIAN SEATE 11-25-2011 12:04 AM

SS/JA - What heads are legal?
 
I have a 69 Camaro in GT now, all fresh. We have a few parts here and there, would like to put a 350 together down the road as a spare. What heads and carb are legal on a combo like this? I want to start looking for a set of heads, thanks.

Greg Hill 11-25-2011 12:05 AM

Re: SS/JA - What heads are legal?
 
441 heads and any 750 quadrajet.

Ryan_Haag 11-25-2011 01:10 AM

Re: SS/JA - What heads are legal?
 
There are two 350 combinations you can run. 441 heads or 041 heads. The 041 heads are the high compression engine. The high compression engine can run SS/GA-SS/IA. 441 combo can run SS/HA-SS/JA.

richie 2 11-25-2011 05:16 AM

Re: SS/JA - What heads are legal?
 
in addition to the 041 heads....462, 370, 292 are also consitered a "300hp" head & legal. there's a "world products" head that's acceptable too but costs more weight to do that.

K Stubbs 11-25-2011 09:00 AM

Re: SS/JA - What heads are legal?
 
Brian, if you could find a "good" recently done set of stocker heads they may be faster :)

Greg Hill 11-25-2011 10:34 AM

Re: SS/JA - What heads are legal?
 
The 255hp combo is the only one legal for SS/JA with the 441 heads,

BRIAN SEATE 11-25-2011 01:49 PM

Re: SS/JA - What heads are legal?
 
Thanks guys, all great information. I tested at Piedmont 2 weeks ago with limited issues, should be ready to roll, Div. 9 IHRA.

BRIAN SEATE 11-25-2011 02:02 PM

Re: SS/JA - What heads are legal?
 
I actually have a set of 292 turbo heads. I did not know they would fit under the guidelines, interesting. Probably H or I in my Camaro. Let me know if I am off base, thanks.

Greg Hill 11-25-2011 04:17 PM

Re: SS/JA - What heads are legal?
 
They will work for a 300hp motor.

jasondearduff 11-25-2011 04:43 PM

Re: SS/JA - What heads are legal?
 
aren't the 292 heads angle plug?

Bob Bender 11-25-2011 05:07 PM

Re: SS/JA - What heads are legal?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Stubbs (Post 295378)
Brian, if you could find a "good" recently done set of stocker heads they may be faster :)

I have a fresh set............441

Bobby Zlatkin 11-26-2011 09:59 AM

Re: SS/JA - What heads are legal?
 
Aren't 186 also a correct 300 hp head?

K Stubbs 11-26-2011 05:49 PM

Re: SS/JA - What heads are legal?
 
I believe the 292 head was available as a production head with straight plugs, which is different from the "turbo" head with angle plugs. The turbo head was not a production head and was originally designed to be used on a turbo indy car engine but was never used, hence the name "turbo" head.

richie 2 11-26-2011 06:17 PM

Re: SS/JA - What heads are legal?
 
yes...186 is in that group also.

BRIAN SEATE 11-26-2011 06:37 PM

Re: SS/JA - What heads are legal?
 
Thanks for the guidance, I will probably go with the 441 version.

Terry Bride 11-27-2011 02:46 PM

Re: SS/JA - What heads are legal?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Stubbs (Post 295521)
I believe the 292 head was available as a production head with straight plugs, which is different from the "turbo" head with angle plugs.

Can anyone confirm this? I believe the 492 was available as a straight or angle plug but I was under the impression that the 292 was an over the counter replacement head and was only available with an angle plug.
Anyone have the straight (or angled) goods on this?

Rich Biebel 11-27-2011 07:27 PM

Re: SS/JA - What heads are legal?
 
292's were never on any production engine. They were over the counter HP replacement heads. I don't really recall if they were angle or straight plug or possibly made both ways but I am going with straight plug only from my vague memory of them.

Bowtie heads came along and that was it for the Turbos as they were indeed called. They were really not very good unless they were ported but were still better than most stock heads.....

It always amazed me that so many 441 heads were so readily available for race cars. They were made in only one year on 350's and in 1970 there were also some found on 400's but those usually had 1.600 exhaust valves if I recall right.

I dug around for a few sets myself as I once raced a '69 Camaro in SS/JA

The 350/255 was a very good combo from day one......Ask Dave Boertman or Bobby Warren....or Bud Rowe....

Alan Roehrich 11-27-2011 08:31 PM

Re: SS/JA - What heads are legal?
 
The 492 casting is the service replacement head for the "double hump" (186, 291, 370, 461, 461X, 462, etc) series of heads. It is available in straight or angle plug configurations, only the straight plug configuration is legal in traditional Stock Eliminator and Super Stock combinations.

The 292 casting is an angle plug "race" casting with the exhaust crossover blocked. It was called the "turbo" head because it was made for the Indy car "stock block' program, it is the predecessor to the "Bow Tie" series of heads.

K Stubbs 11-27-2011 09:02 PM

Re: SS/JA - What heads are legal?
 
"292" – 3917292, or 340292. Both are good performance heads. The 3917292 was
found on 1968 327 and 350 engines, had 1.94/1.50" valves, 64CC combustion
chambers, straight plug configuration, not sure on the accessory holes, and I do not
have any port volume data on these heads. These heads have double hump casting
marks. The 340292 was available from GM "over the counter". This version had angle
plug configuration, 2.02/1.60" valves, 64CC combustion chambers. These were known
as the "Turbo" heads.

The 292 casting is listed as an accepted head on this combo. They are not referring to the over the counter head, there were two different 292 heads.


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