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Paul Ceasrine 11-29-2011 11:05 AM

1966 GM 'Heavy-Weights'
 
A take-off on Alex's 'Q' Ships thread,

1966 General Motors, 'High-Performance Luxury Cars'

* 1966 Pontiac 2 + 2......421/376 HP 'High Output'...Tri-Power
* 1966 Buick Wildcat '465'.....425/380 HP 'Y48 Option'... Dual-Quad
* 1966 Oldsmobile Delta 88 'Holiday Coupe'.....425/375 HP....L-77 Engine Option

1966 Performance Results;

Pontiac 2 + 2......w/3.42 Gears (Automatic)
Weight............ 4005 lbs.
Wt/Hp...............10.65
Class................D/SA
0-to-60.............7.0 seconds
1/4 mile............15.40 @ 93 MPH
Top Speed......137 MPH

Buick Wildcat '465'....w/3.42 Gears (Automatic)
Weight..............4003 lbs.
Wt/Hp...............10.54
Class................C/SA
0-to-60.............7.4 seconds
1/4 Mile...........15.20 @ 93 MPH
Top Speed..... 132 MPH

Oldsmobile Delta 88 'Holiday Coupe'....w/3.42 Gears (Automatic)
Weight.............3955 lbs.
Wt/Hp..............10.54
Class................C/SA
0-to-60.............7.4 seconds
1/4 Mile............15.30 @ 91 MPH
Top Speed........127 MPH

Bob Bender 11-29-2011 02:01 PM

Re: 1966 GM 'Heavy-Weights'
 
Hey Paul, my car is at 4400lbs. Can not get it light enough for N/SA and it must weigh 4650lbs for P/SA. :mad:

Dan Fahey 11-29-2011 05:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Bender (Post 296012)
Hey Paul, my car is at 4400lbs. Can not get it light enough for N/SA and it must weigh 4650lbs for P/SA. :mad:

WOW... my 95 ImpalaSS has to weigh 4300 minimum but run at 4350lbs for G/PS

The 69 Impala can be lightened to run in K
Though most of the time it ran M/SA.

Paul Ceasrine 11-29-2011 07:12 PM

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Dan and Bob

Who would ever think the 1966 4000 lb. cars were light,,,,,
compared to the 4400+ lb. 'sleds' of,,,

The 1966 Caprice is a lightweight compared to your cars,,,

1966 Chevrolet Caprice..... 427/390 HP.....L-36 Engine Option

1966 Chevrolet Caprice....w/3.31 Gears (Automatic)
Weight............3917 lbs.
Wt/Hp.............10.04
Class...............C/SA
0 to 60.............6.3 seconds
1/4 Mile...........15.00 @ 94 MPH
Top Speed......132 MPH

Dennis P Chapman 11-29-2011 07:49 PM

Re: 1966 GM 'Heavy-Weights'
 
I have a good friend that has 66 impala ss 427/390 his father bought the car new. Him and his brother used to race the car he is on this site so he may add to this.

chris ok 11-29-2011 08:53 PM

Re: 1966 GM 'Heavy-Weights'
 
what transmission did these cars use.
I think the Turbo 400 came out in 67? Called the M40 if I remember right.

Dennis P Chapman 11-29-2011 11:01 PM

Re: 1966 GM 'Heavy-Weights'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chris ok (Post 296087)
what transmission did these cars use.
I think the Turbo 400 came out in 67? Called the M40 if I remember right.

Turbo 400 came out in 1966.

Bob Bender 11-30-2011 08:25 AM

Re: 1966 GM 'Heavy-Weights'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chris ok (Post 296087)
what transmission did these cars use.
I think the Turbo 400 came out in 67? Called the M40 if I remember right.

Turbo 350. Mine is a 69.

X-TECH MAN 11-30-2011 08:58 AM

Re: 1966 GM 'Heavy-Weights'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis P Chapman (Post 296120)
Turbo 400 came out in 1966.

The Turbo 400 came out in 1965......My friend Leon Marainnian (S/S Vette racer today) had a 65 396/325 HP SS Impala with a 400 Turbo he raced when new.in stock at 75&80 in Md........first one I ever saw. Small block cars still had the P/G.

Dennis P Chapman 11-30-2011 12:19 PM

Re: 1966 GM 'Heavy-Weights'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 296166)
The Turbo 400 came out in 1965......My friend Leon Marainnian (S/S Vette racer today) had a 65 396/325 HP SS Impala with a 400 Turbo he raced when new.in stock at 75&80 in Md........first one I ever saw. Small block cars still had the P/G.

Must of been late 65 with 396 first half of the year was still the 409 and I have never hear of it coming with turbo 400.

Paul Ceasrine 11-30-2011 01:27 PM

Re: 1966 GM 'Heavy-Weights'
 
Another 1966 GM 'Beast'

The 1966 Cadillac Coupe De Ville
with the 429/340 HP (480 ft-lbs of torque)

1966 Cadillac Coupe De Ville....w/3.21 gears (Automatic)
Weight..............4460 lbs.
Wt/Hp...............13.12
Class................G/SA
0 to 60..............8.4 seconds
1/4 Mile............16.40 @ 86 MPH
Top Speed......121 MPH

X-TECH MAN 11-30-2011 05:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis P Chapman (Post 296205)
Must of been late 65 with 396 first half of the year was still the 409 and I have never hear of it coming with turbo 400.

Yes it was one of the first. I didnt know they existed until I saw Leon's car. The 409/340 HP cars were P/G's or 4 speeds. The 400 HP 409's were all sticks. Leon can tell you about the 65 396 when you catch him at a Div. one race. It was that pale green color and a really good loooking car. The Vette he races today is the one I found for him back in the "stone age" that he raced as a stocker for several years. It was an original 427/390 HP automatic car painted in silver w/black interior.

Dennis P Chapman 11-30-2011 06:04 PM

Re: 1966 GM 'Heavy-Weights'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 296269)
Yes it was one of the first. I didnt know they existed until I saw Leon's car. The 409/340 HP cars were P/G's or 4 speeds. The 400 HP 409's were all sticks. Leon can tell you about the 65 396 when you catch him at a Div. one race. It was that pale green color and a really good loooking car. The Vette he races today is the one I found for him back in the "stone age" that he raced as a stocker for several years. It was an original 427/390 HP automatic car painted in silver w/black interior.

Will have to ask him next season at a race. Off the big car thing but I wonder what happen to his brother 69 camaro S/Stock

X-TECH MAN 11-30-2011 07:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis P Chapman (Post 296270)
Will have to ask him next season at a race. Off the big car thing but I wonder what happen to his brother 69 camaro S/Stock

Eddie sold the Camaro (dont know who bought it) Then went Comp. racing with a R.E.D. with a Lingenfelter engine. Then he got married and built a home and quit racing.

Dennis P Chapman 11-30-2011 08:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 296293)
Eddie sold the Camaro (dont know who bought it) Then went Comp. racing with a R.E.D. with a Lingenfelter engine. Then he got married and built a home and quit racing.

Terry thanks

Pvt Parts 11-30-2011 09:00 PM

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What was Blakenship's car??? In B/S I believe.

X-TECH MAN 11-30-2011 09:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pvt Parts (Post 296314)
What was Blakenship's car??? In B/S I believe.

66 427/425 HP Chevy Biscayne.

X-TECH MAN 11-30-2011 09:41 PM

Re: 1966 GM 'Heavy-Weights'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis P Chapman (Post 296303)
Terry thanks

No problem......The Dragster was a big block that ran in A/ED and I think he won Englishtown with it many moons ago. Dont remember the exact year.

Hemi Moose 12-02-2011 06:59 PM

Re: 1966 GM 'Heavy-Weights'
 
Anyone here care to take a guess who these two fellows are working on this 1966 427 Biscayne.
http://classracer.com/classforum/att...5&d=1267145495

Geerhead55 12-02-2011 11:43 PM

Re: 1966 GM 'Heavy-Weights'
 
HM,, I'm sure I'm way off the mark,, but the guy with the timing light resembles a young Dale Armstrong. Thats my shot in the dark.
Danny Durham

Dennis P Chapman 12-02-2011 11:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Geerhead55 (Post 296786)
HM,, I'm sure I'm way off the mark,, but the guy with the timing light resembles a young Dale Armstrong. Thats my shot in the dark.
Danny Durham

x2 on that.

Dennis Banach 12-03-2011 11:44 AM

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[QUOTE=Dennis P Chapman;296065]I have a good friend that has 66 impala ss 427/390 his father bought the car new. Him and his brother used to race the car he is on this site so he may add to this.[/QUOTEhttp://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...scan002001.jpg

Dennis Banach 12-03-2011 12:09 PM

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http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...0011966427.jpgOne more !http://s227.photobucket.com/albums/d...%20Dragracing/

Dennis P Chapman 12-04-2011 01:02 PM

Re: 1966 GM 'Heavy-Weights'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 296739)
Anyone here care to take a guess who these two fellows are working on this 1966 427 Biscayne.
http://classracer.com/classforum/att...5&d=1267145495

A friend said last night how about Joel Rosen and the other guy Bill Michell.

Paul Ceasrine 12-06-2011 05:49 PM

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[QUOTE=Dennis Banach;296825]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis P Chapman (Post 296065)
I have a good friend that has 66 impala ss 427/390 his father bought the car new. Him and his brother used to race the car he is on this site so he may add to this.[/QUOTEhttp://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...scan002001.jpg

Those 'BIG' 1966 Chevy's with the 427/390 HP (Automatic) cars ran in
G/SA in 1970 and 1971.

pc

Hemi Moose 12-06-2011 07:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis P Chapman (Post 296992)
A friend said last night how about Joel Rosen and the other guy Bill Michell.

He would be correct...Bill Mitchell of World Products fame and Joel Rosen of Motion Performance.

Hemi Moose 12-07-2011 04:15 PM

Re: 1966 GM 'Heavy-Weights'
 
Here's another 66 427 Biscayne from the Sheehan Brothers...perhaps they could tell some stories about this car.

http://classracer.com/classforum/pic...pictureid=1233

Alex Denysenko 12-08-2011 12:00 AM

Re: 1966 GM 'Heavy-Weights'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 296166)
The Turbo 400 came out in 1965......My friend Leon Marainnian (S/S Vette racer today) had a 65 396/325 HP SS Impala with a 400 Turbo he raced when new.in stock at 75&80 in Md........first one I ever saw. Small block cars still had the P/G.

You GM guys ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

TH 400 was actually introduced in 1964 in both the Buick and Cadillac lines.

1965 was indeed the first year for the TH 400 in a Chebbie.

Terry is correct.

Full size car only, optional behind the 396 big block.

Paul Ceasrine 12-08-2011 08:29 AM

Re: 1966 GM 'Heavy-Weights'
 
1966 Buick Riviera GS

425/360 HP (w/Dealer installed Dual-quad intake, w/twin Carter AFB's)
Automatic, w/3.42 gears

Car weight; 4226 lbs.
Wt/Hp; 11.79
Class; E/SA
0 to 60; 8.3 Seconds
1/4 Mile; 16.10 @ 85 MPH
Top Speed; 127 MPH

PROSTREETBISCAYNE 12-27-2011 11:03 PM

Re: 1966 GM 'Heavy-Weights'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis P Chapman (Post 296992)
A friend said last night how about Joel Rosen and the other guy Bill Michell.

That's my fathers 66 factory 427/425 Biscayne. This was the first modified Biscayne by Motion Performance. He raced it at National & West Hampton from 66 to 68. He drove it to work one day to Brooklyn N.Y. and it was stolen. I'm building a replica of the car and should have it out this summer.
http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/q...e/IMAG0985.jpg

PROSTREETBISCAYNE 12-27-2011 11:09 PM

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A video of the Biscayne at National Speedway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZc97wK0keM

Dennis P Chapman 12-28-2011 12:35 AM

Re: 1966 GM 'Heavy-Weights'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PROSTREETBISCAYNE (Post 301171)
That's my fathers 66 factory 427/425 Biscayne. This was the first modified Biscayne by Motion Performance. He raced it at National & West Hampton from 66 to 68. He drove it to work one day to Brooklyn N.Y. and it was stolen. I'm building a replica of the car and should have it out this summer.
http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/q...e/IMAG0985.jpg

Did they ever find the car?

PROSTREETBISCAYNE 12-28-2011 07:12 PM

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It never surfaced.

Dennis P Chapman 12-28-2011 07:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PROSTREETBISCAYNE (Post 301270)
It never surfaced.

Thats to bad good luck with the build. Post some pictures when its done.


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