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While at the PRI Show in Orlando I picked up the new GoPro Hero2 to use in the race car. How many of you are using this camera and what do you think of them? Are there any tips you could give others to make it easier to use? I planed on attaching it to the roll bar behind the front seats as I have heard that a dash cam is a no-no. Jim:rolleyes:

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They are great but they ae very hard to turn on after you are buckled in race car and if you hit the button too long it goes to a picture mode. I would for sure get the remote when it comes so all you have to do is press the remote , i think they will be avaible in Feb.

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Jim: I got one, I use it as a tuning aid with the clutch. You can watch the tach on the video to see if it locks up or slips. I like it, but you need a very fast computer to watch it or you can see it on your TV. I have an Dell Latitude with XP software and the video doesn't work. A Mac computer that my friend has plays the video right from the camera.

Casey Miles
248H Stock?

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do not use at nhra races

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why?

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Why? Jim

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They can be used at NHRA races just not aimed at the other car if what i understand > correct me if I am wrong???

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Thats the way it reads to me.

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You also can't post the video on any public media site.

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Why not? It's not like NHRA is ever going put a stocker on TV.

I see lot's of NHRA viedos on YouTube. If there's a real reason why we can't have them in the car, I'd like to know before I buy one myself...

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the mount is not metal

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Save your money.
Rules revisions for 2012 says so.Read text below.I guess you can watch it in your trailer with the doors closed.Those boys in Glendora are really on top of it.I'm surprised they don't allow it,with a kick back to NHRA.Oh damn,I just gave them another enhancement they can foist on us.

SECTION 20: GENERAL REGULATIONS, SUPPORT GROUP: 9, 9:15 CAMERAS (Page 38) (To be added after 9:14 WARM-UPS)
Cameras permitted. May not be intentionally directed at the racer in the other lane without NHRA permission. Video may not be transmitted in any means or manner without NHRA permission. Incident video may not be transmitted under any circumstances. No video monitors permitted in or on the car. Video may not be used in any way to determine track position in real time. Must be securely attached to the vehicle with appropriate fasteners. May not be attached with suction cups, wires ties, hose clamps etc.. All mounting brackets, associated fasteners, hardware, etc. from the camera to the vehicle attachment point must be metal, no plastic or non-metallic components permitted. Attachment to the driver, the driver’s helmet or the steering wheel prohibited.

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Oh f'n well. They can get over it

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You can video all the test runs you want. Let it record your gauges/tach

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Jim,

You can use the camera. Ed and some others have interpreted the rule as you can not video without NHRA's permission.

It says transmitted, the last time I looked the word meant a live feed over the radio or TV, meaning to transmit. When was the last time you heard someone say I just watched a race that was transmitted.

I think many like to read the worst before they thoroughly read and understand what the rules means.

Anyway that's my take on the rule and I will be taking in car videos according to the new NHRA rule.

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So you're saying you can keep posting in car runs on here from NHRA nationals,divs, and
opens?What's your take on the taping of class runs and elims. from the stands?

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Thanks Ed for posting the rule. I agree with Yo Ken, The rule seems to be more aimed at not allowing someone to live broadcast from an NHRA race without their permission. I can understand this. I can almost understand them not wanting you to point your in car camera at your opponent without permission. However, I have yet to see ANY camera, on board or in car, that can be mounted totally with metal components. I can understand the NHRA not wanting the camera to come loose on a run and distracting the driver or falling on the track. The GoPro mounts provided with the camera have been tested on and in airplanes inside and out at over 300mph. I think the roll bar mount is plenty safe for any Sportsman car! The GoPro mounts appear to be much more heavy duty and stronger than any regular single screw camera mount I have seen.

As for videoing from the stands or in the staging lanes or pits, I see nothing prohibiting any of this as long as it is not a live feed transmission. What "Lang Productions" does for example seems to fit well within the rules. Jim


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We'll see in Feb. Jim.

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i have the go pro
it was on the roll bar pointed out the windshield
i was at a national event in N.C.
and nhra said to remove the camera from the car

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Vic, you were quite a bit more than just there...congrats again. Did they give a reason? If mounted correctly it would be interesting to understand their rationale given the new ruling. Thinking maybe they objected to how it was mounted or knew something was in the wind for this year and was playing it safe???

I just got the Go Pro so hoping I didn't just p*** the $ away.

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I had a chance to talk with Garcia at the PRI show about the camera's and he told me they are going to add some wording, to the rule. I don't think they have an issue with the non metal mounting if inside the car. The concern was with one flying off after not being attached correctly. I have had the suction cup mount above 150mph, and many have had them much higher. I have also not latched the suction cup correctly and ran over the damn thing with the golf cart at five mph! He mentioned a tether "may" satisfy them, and that he wanted to add some "common sense" wording ( I had to chuckle at that, NHRA - Common sense aren't two words heard together very often) He said they had a lot of questions about the cameras at the show, and would try to make some clarification soon. He also gave me the impression that they don't want real time video transmissions. And that is the issue, not YouTube.

I have sold the GoPro Systems in the past and really liked the results. When NHRA banned all cameras period on Juniors year ago and killed my deal with GoPro on the Junior I was less than thrilled, but they act like they may revisit the issue with mounting. Another camera that was at the PRI show and would be worth a look is the Re-Play XD. They have a billet mount and from what I understand the owners are racers, and the quality seemed top notch both in equipment, and video.

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Not really sure why NHRA objects to the in car video. It makes sense that using a live feed to take advantage of track position would not be allowed, but you could argue that video taken as a "tuning aid" or entertainment purposes should be legal. The Pro cars have had video (supplied by ESPN?) for a while, and that hasn't affected anything. The new rule also states that "Incident video may not be transmitted under any circumstances", probably to keep the results off YouTube, etc.

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I have both camera`s gopro and the Re-play xd, I like the re-play better, smaller and to turn on and off, button on front on and off back and it vibrates to let you known it`s on or off. recharge of computer, no battery`s Tom

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x2 rj racecars sells the replay for $189 and its wonderful. See video at www.gallery.me.com/rickseeman

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I wonder if the latest camera rule clarifications changes anything? Doesn't seem like it should as cameras were already permitted. The way the rule is written, the GoPro with the plastic mount is implied to be OK for cars 7.50 and slower...

Top of page 11 - http://www.nhra.com/UserFiles/file/2...01-19-2012.pdf

I'm putting the mount on my cage. We'll see what happens this spring...

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Go to the latest NHRA rule amendments clear down at the bottom of the page and read the new amendment to the rule. The whole flap of this thing came from bone heads mounting them on the outside of their car and then when the camera came undone it went sliding down the track usually in the other lane. Why didn`t they just say you can`t mount the camera on the outside of the car and leave it at that. NHRA knee jerk.

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at Charlotte nhra said to remove the camera from the inside of the car it was a gopro with a suction cup
nhra said it might hit me in the head

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And NHRA was right Vic, it would have been a shame to break a perfectly good camera!

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then what's the helmet for lol.

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"One camera permitted unless NHRA permission is granted for additional cameras. May not be intentionally directed at the racer in the other lane without NHRA permission. Video may not be transmitted in any means or manner without NHRA permission, which permission, if granted, may be revoked at any time. Incident video may not be transmitted under any circumstances. No video monitors permitted in or on the car. Video may not be used in any way to determine track position in real time. Must be securely attached to the vehicle with appropriate fasteners. May not be attached with suction cups, wire ties, hose clamps etc. For any camera mounted external to the enclosed driver’s compartment of a full bodied door car, anywhere on any open-bodied car (including FC, TAFC, and Competition Eliminator and ET funny car type Altered bodies), and anywhere on any car 7.49 (*4.49) seconds or quicker all mounting brackets, associated fasteners, hardware, etc. from the camera to the vehicle attachment point must be metal, no plastic or nonmetallic components permitted. For all vehicles, attachment to the driver, the driver’s helmet, or the steering wheel / handlebars prohibited.”

I'm gunna say this means that cameras mounted inside (not outside) the car on cars running less than 7.49 (4.49) seconds or faster can used proper nonmetallic components (such as the GoPro roll bar mount). Jim

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No, that's not what it says. It says that the video may not be transmitted. Here's the definition:
trans·mit/tranzˈmit/

Verb:

• Cause (something) to pass on from one place or person to another.

I'm sure they will interpret that to mean posting online anywhere. They mean to keep a lock on any and all video coverage of the event. I wonder what would happen if a spectator showed up in the stands or on the grounds with a tripod and a 600mm lens??

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Also,haven't they been people grief about the way the cam is mounted in the car?Is is OK to still have it mountede on your helmet?
As far as mounting in the car I could see a problem if it's not secured properly and it goes flying around inside the car.But wait,all us drag racers do things the proper meticulous way right?

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That's the way I read it, too, Jim...