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Hemi Moose 12-27-2011 06:27 PM

Baldwin Motion Performance
 
Anyone here ever buy a new or used car from Baldwin Motion Performance dealer...or maybe you knew someone that did back then.
http://www.corvettereport.com/home/c...tion_Shop1.jpg
http://www.corvettereport.com/home/c...I_Corvette.jpg
http://www.rabbitstoys.com/pics/motiondealership.jpg

http://baldwinmotionreport.com/

Paul Ceasrine 12-28-2011 08:24 AM

Re: Baldwin Motion Performance
 
Moose,

Being from Westchester County, New York,,,,,,,

we had more than our fair share of Motion Performance cars
running around here...

Many racers (street and strip) would head out to Baldwin, Long Island
(about 90 minutes away) to see what was on the dealership lot.

One of the first Motion Performance cars to show up
in our area in the summer of 1967,,
a red 67' Chevelle with a 427 engine and Ram-Air hood.

Basically an A/MP car, that was driven on the street,,,,,,,

An 11.60 car, driven off the lot,,,,:)

Super Stock and FX Magazine
(September 1967)
Motion Performance, advertising the 67' 427 Chevelle, with Ram-Air

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Super-Stock-A...UuoEw~~_12.JPG

Paul Ceasrine 12-28-2011 08:39 AM

Re: Baldwin Motion Performance
 
There it is,,,,,,,,,,

http://www.chevelles.com/forums/atta...8&d=1233198852

Hemi Moose 12-28-2011 02:30 PM

Re: Baldwin Motion Performance
 
I remember seeing all of the Chevy Hi-Performance models advertised but don't recall seeing any Motion Oldsmobile's offered.
http://inlinethumb24.webshots.com/50...600x600Q85.jpg

Arnold Greene 12-28-2011 09:37 PM

Re: Baldwin Motion Performance
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 301130)
Anyone here ever buy a new or used car from Baldwin Motion Performance dealer...or maybe you knew someone that did back then.
http://www.corvettereport.com/home/c...tion_Shop1.jpg
http://www.corvettereport.com/home/c...I_Corvette.jpg
http://www.rabbitstoys.com/pics/motiondealership.jpg

http://baldwinmotionreport.com/

I came home from Nam December 16, 1968. I had been reading ads for 396/375 takeout engines($400) from Motion Performance in car magazines for over a year. A friend of mine and I drove a 67 Chevy 3/4 ton pick up to Baldwin , LI and picked up 4 396/375 takeouts for $1200. In 1972, I bought a Vega similar to the one in the photo, 350 LT1, muncie, 4.56 12 bolt, etc., but it was a Scuncio Chevy conversion according to the guy I bought it from. It was bad to the bone.

Hemi Moose 12-29-2011 03:02 PM

Re: Baldwin Motion Performance
 
I was wondering if all of those Baldwin Chevrolet cars advertised on their dealership window behind the 67 427 Chevelle SS photo were all converted at Motion Performance or did Baldwin do some of their own work.

And I bet those little Vega's with small block & big block engine swaps were quite the street & strip cars back then...I recall seeing a few of those on the streets back in the mid 70's but most were home built units.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3...01/vega427.jpg

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbt...&Number=444027
.

bob gonier 12-29-2011 04:59 PM

Re: Baldwin Motion Performance
 
1 Attachment(s)
I had my chance .......... Could have bought this car right.

Glad I didn't ....... LOL











bob

Hemi Moose 12-29-2011 10:50 PM

Re: Baldwin Motion Performance
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnold Greene (Post 301299)
...In 1972, I bought a Vega similar to the one in the photo, 350 LT1, muncie, 4.56 12 bolt, etc., but it was a Scuncio Chevy conversion according to the guy I bought it from. It was bad to the bone.

Similar to this one below...do you know if they did the conversion's there aswell.

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/1255/v8vega.gif

Jim B 12-30-2011 01:32 PM

Re: Baldwin Motion Performance
 
[QUOTE=Hemi Moose;301228]I remember seeing all of the Chevy Hi-Performance models advertised but don't recall seeing any Motion Oldsmobile's offered.

Mack Markowitz was an Oldsmobile dealer in Hempstead NY. The dealership sponsored an NHRA 442 stocker at the time. I kind of remember the effort was an unsuccessful Markowitz Olds attempt to participate in the well received Baldwin/Motion venture with Oldsmobiles.

Hemi Moose 12-30-2011 05:55 PM

Re: Baldwin Motion Performance
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim B (Post 301562)
Mack Markowitz was an Oldsmobile dealer in Hempstead NY. The dealership sponsored an NHRA 442 stocker at the time. I kind of remember the effort was an unsuccessful Markowitz Olds attempt to participate in the well received Baldwin/Motion venture with Oldsmobiles.

Found an old photo of the Motion Markowitz Oldsmobile...anyone here know how these engines held up.

http://www.doverdragstrip.com/phpBB3...le.php?id=5621

Hemi Moose 12-30-2011 06:00 PM

Re: Baldwin Motion Performance
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bob gonier (Post 301428)
I had my chance...Could have bought this car right...Glad I didn't...LOL
bob

What was wrong with it...to big of a project for you to restore, or were you just not into the car...car looked better with all of the strips...what size engine.

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...8&d=1325192260

Arnold Greene 12-30-2011 08:03 PM

Re: Baldwin Motion Performance
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 301484)
Similar to this one below...do you know if they did the conversion's there aswell.

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/1255/v8vega.gif

Yes, they did the conversions, but I don't think the $3995 car included the 12 bolt, scattershield, and several other performance items. I think Bob Johnson was the guy that did the performance stuff at Scuncio.

Arnold Greene 12-30-2011 08:08 PM

Re: Baldwin Motion Performance
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 301588)
What was wrong with it...to big of a project for you to restore, or were you just not into the car...car looked better with all of the strips...what size engine.

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...8&d=1325192260

Bob, can you pm me the info on this car?

Paul Ceasrine 12-30-2011 08:29 PM

Re: Baldwin Motion Performance
 
I remember when those Vega's came out with the small block,,

Motion had some of the first ones out with the 302,
so the cars could be classed in D/G.

pc

Jimbo17 01-03-2012 05:11 PM

Re: Baldwin Motion Performance
 
I thought you might like to know what Joel Rosen has been doing since the Motion Performance days.

I think building models was always a hobby that he turned into a very large business.

Motion Models

You should also check out the latest Baldwin Motion Lives site at the following web site.

Baldwin Motion Lives

I have fond memories from those days when you could purchase a car at Baldwin Chevrolet and take it down the street to Motion Performance and leave with a car that would run in the 11 second range!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't think we will ever see anything like that again but boy were those the day's to be growing up in.

Jim "Jimbo" Hill

Hemi Moose 01-03-2012 05:45 PM

Re: Baldwin Motion Performance
 
Hey Jimbo,
welcome to the site...just curious did you buy one of those Baldwin Motion cars back then...if so then you must have a few old stories to tell us about.

http://www.officialbaldwinmotion.com...ressbotmag.jpg
http://www.officialbaldwinmotion.com...istorypic7.jpg

Jimbo17 01-03-2012 06:27 PM

Re: Baldwin Motion Performance
 
Back in those day's money was tight so I was not in a position to walk into Baldwin Chevrolet and purchase a new car.

I did purchase a used 1965 Chevelle with a 350 engine and a 4 speed that already had a 456 gear.

I was very lucky to become friends with Dick Moroso back in the early day's before he ever started Moroso Performance.

In those days the name of his business was Performance Automotive and there was Dick and another guy named Mike who worked for him.

Those were the days before he went to work for Jere Stahl at Stahl
Headers.

Dick tuned my car and installed the cam and headers.

I remember the first time he talked to me about going to Cecil County on a Friday night.

I was about 17 years old and did not know where Cecil County was located. I had never been outside the state of Connecticut at that time.

I have so many great memories from those days.

Jim "Jimbo" Hill

bob gonier 01-03-2012 07:14 PM

Re: Baldwin Motion Performance
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 301588)
What was wrong with it...to big of a project for you to restore, or were you just not into the car...car looked better with all of the strips...what size engine.

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...8&d=1325192260




I never got a good vibe from that car.......... It sat in my yard for quite a while and aside from being the ugliest corvette I've ever seen I really didnt have the desire to restore it, then deal with all the crazies to try and sell it LOL ..... Being the market took a dump, I feel confident I made the right decision. It had no documentation and I still question it's tie with motion. It was originally a 427/435 car and had a nash 5 spd w/ 4.56's




Bob

Dennis P Chapman 01-03-2012 07:30 PM

Re: Baldwin Motion Performance
 
I got my Hemmings Muscle Machine magazine there is and article on 2012 motion camaro. There made by Redline Motorsports there in Schenectady NY. Cool looking car.

Hemi Moose 01-06-2012 03:35 PM

Re: Baldwin Motion Performance
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bob gonier (Post 302086)
I never got a good vibe from that car.......... It sat in my yard for quite a while and aside from being the ugliest corvette I've ever seen I really didnt have the desire to restore it, then deal with all the crazies to try and sell it LOL ..... Being the market took a dump, I feel confident I made the right decision. It had no documentation and I still question it's tie with motion. It was originally a 427/435 car and had a nash 5 spd w/ 4.56's
Bob

If you don't mind me asking, how long ago did you sell it and what did you let it go for...any other performance cars you remember roaming the streets back then.

.

Hemi Moose 05-02-2012 12:25 AM

Re: Baldwin Motion Performance
 
'68 427 Camaro SS...11.50 et @ 125 mph.

http://www.motionperformance.com/magazine/68m427-1.jpg

http://www.motionperformance.com/magazine/68m427-2.jpg

http://www.motionperformance.com/magazine/68m427-3.jpg

http://www.motionperformance.com/magazine/68m427-4.jpg

http://www.motionperformance.com/magazine/68m427-5.jpg

http://www.motionperformance.com/magazine/68m427-6.jpg

http://www.motionperformance.com/magazine/68m427-7.jpg

Hemi Moose 05-02-2012 12:45 AM

Re: Baldwin Motion Performance
 
I wonder if this might be the same Baldwin Motion Vette that was mentioned earlier in the thread that's on these Cars magazine covers...

http://www.corvettereport.com/home/c...ARS-Cover1.jpg

http://www.corvettereport.com/home/c...se-III_GT1.jpg

Hemi Moose 05-02-2012 09:40 PM

Re: Baldwin Motion Performance
 
http://www.cowtownvettes.org/images/BM/p3gt-6.jpg

http://www.baldwinmotionreport.com/i...at-2-Cover.jpg

http://www.baldwinmotionreport.com/i...1-Corvette.jpg

http://www.baldwinmotionreport.com/i...Corvette-1.jpg

http://www.baldwinmotionreport.com/i..._Agreement.jpg

Hemi Moose 05-13-2012 04:35 PM

Re: Baldwin Motion Performance
 
Here's one of the Baldwin Chevrolet & Motion Performance A/MP Camaro...

http://hubgarage.s3.amazonaws.com/ph...ord_detail.jpg

vistacruiser67 05-16-2013 10:02 AM

Re: Baldwin Motion Performance
 
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...MotionOlds.jpg


How about a Motion FWD five thousand pound 455 ram air Toronado?


http://www.yenko.net/attachments/156...s--motion1.jpg


http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...0Chevy/14e.jpg


http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...dsarticle1.jpg

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...dsarticle2.jpg

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...ldsarticle.jpg




http://www.streetlegaltv.com/photos/...55946-scan.jpg

http://www.streetlegaltv.com/photos/...ion_car-21.jpg

http://www.streetlegaltv.com/photos/...ionoldsdz2.jpg



http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...HGN--C22jEMQbg

chris ok 05-20-2013 11:13 PM

Re: Baldwin Motion Performance
 
I live right near Mack Markowitz, work down the block from Motion, and drive by The old Baldwin Chevrolet(CVS now) daily. Markowitz is in rough shape. I worked at the chrysler dealer around the block up to a year and a half ago.. Owner of the Chrysler dealer are the son of the Westbury Rambler dealer who had that AMX super stocker w SK speed.
ps, sadly we no longer have a track on LI.
That Baldwin Motion pic is from WestHampton/ Suffolk County Dragway.......


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