Protest
 

Dempsey protest's Paul Boster and made him pull a rod and piston, right before first round, so Paul , after passing, loaded up and won't get to race.

woodro josey
I miss Buster Couch and Lex Dudas.

Woodro did Paul not get to race because he didn't pass tech you didn't say ???

Does NHRA take a protest from a competitor right before the 1st round? IHRA will only accept it at least 3 hrs before the race, to keep things from getting in a pissing contest. If NHRA allows this then it will only lead to a good ole *** whuppin ,ala Saturday night dirt tracking.

Even then 3 hours isnt enough time to pull a head have it teched and put back togather. How long did it take the stocker at Piedmont to tear down for a record. I saw them working on it for at least 5 hours.

Herb Jr

Well they took the protest before first round but Paul had to pull the engine out, i think he now has an LS1 engine!

woodro josey
I miss Buster Couch and Lex Dudas.

he only beat Dempsey by .004,,, not sure what provoked this!

woodro josey
I miss Buster Couch and Lex Dudas.

I can sure think of a time at piedmont a few years back a guy in a little cavalier , that could barely run the index, got protested 5 minutes before time runs was over...just for spite,,,,,,,...cost him 30 plus points and the world championship,,,,,,and was found legal 2 days later,,,,,,

funny thing about those pissing contests,,,,the one that gets pissed on,,, dont forget...........and usually get even,,, I might add

on p 266 of the rule book, written protests can only be filed on the day prior to eliminations. Or am I reading this wrong?

Yep whats the saying,,,,,,,,payback is hell!!!!!!

woodro josey
I miss Buster Couch and Lex Dudas.

Theres nothing wrong with protesting a guy, ALOT more cars need to be protested. Something is odd in this situation, I dont see how they (NHRA) can make him pull his engine out and apart right before 1st round. NHRA tech are a reasonable bunch of guys. I'll wait for more info.

Was this the guy who qualified number 1 in Super Stock/JA?

Have you driven a FORD....Lately!

no paul has a FI firebird.

novamoation

Paul should have returned the favor , right then and there.

well is there more to this story?

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Thanks for the update Bo, I saw they had you in JA and I know all your cars were GA cars so it was puzzling with all the rumors of what was happening. Thank's for not taking my question the wrong way. Your cars were real fast this weekend.

Smitty

Have you driven a FORD....Lately!

NHRA tore down & inspected our engine at Red River Raceway in 2006.
Wesley (NHRA tech inspector) inspected heads, rods, pistons, intake & throttle body. Also checked crankshaft. EVERYTHING was found legal.
Whoevevr commented that we should be pulled down needs to pull his
head out of his a@@. Next time you see our car at the races come check
out our sticker it reads DO NOT CRY, CRYBABY JUST BECAUSE WE ARE FASTER.

Dempsey Pendarvis
Driver/Owner

Legal today--but not maybe tomorrow??

Dempsey, that was a pretty rash comeback to someone saying that you should be torn down. I don't know if that is true, but one thing that I do know is that in 2006, you had a solid 9 under race car. Either you decided to put your foot all the way down this year or got some new horsepower. I am going to go with the logical choice and say that you probably got a new piece. Whether its legal or not, thats for NHRA and/or someone with $1,000 to decide.

well people this is it cry cry if u want 2!!!some of yall know me MR.BOO-BOO r by DAGOS SON all i know is that me an my dad set number of records over the last6 years set rec in a-b-c-fia ....i know for fact we got tore down 9 times in 1 year!!!!!!!!!!! AN WE WERE FOUND LEGAL FROM TECH GUYS IN DIV.2 AN DIV.4. SO TAKE THAT... AN TODD @ PLATINUM ENGINES R JUST FAST ...THANKS TODD... OH AN ONE MORE THING [:-cheers-:] THATS RIGHT WE BAD[:-coolhairsmoke-:]!!!!

MR.BOO-BOO!!!!

Its simple...you out run a cajun that has more money/ego then sense, and your gettin tore down...tear down, take the money (if your legal) and be done. Now on the other hand the guy who allowed the tear down to take place should be fired.

No way. If they allowed that everyones stuff would be 12 grams light!

The car that was torn down was illegal. Correct me if I am wrong. Any illegal car can usually outrun any legal car.

What about Faulk... Passed and beat you...theres is a pattern, you loose a heads up someone gets tore down...when you sending a check out west to tear down Mcallahan. And its good that they stuck to the weight rule and tossed the guy but the tear down should have never happend

What if the protested car had of won the entire event then been found illegal? Would you be happy then Stockracer?

The guy who allowed the tear down to take place probably figured anyone could pull a piston/rod and have the car running in less than 5 hours. Country Dog can do it, Amy and Kenny Faulk can too. Maybe the guy who allowed the tear down should be given a raise. I'd say he looks pretty smart right now in the eyes of his boss.

Sorry double post.

Just how much is it to get a Piston-Rod pulled out under protest!

woodro josey
I miss Buster Couch and Lex Dudas.

I believe Todd at Platinum Engine Service had strong connections with Lingenfelter and worked for Larry Morgan at one time. I took a Comp engine to Todd for a guy in Ga. and he seemed on the up and up to me.

Woodrow,

For just a mere $800.00 this time.

I think we should get you a new sticker, that says... We don't cry we just throw money away cause we can, cause we can't out run you, but we can out spend you! Get out run by .004 and protest for a wally and 200 bucks. Some class you Cajuns have. Maybe you should go race where everyone are ASSHOLES like you, cause you sure don't deserve to CLASS RACE, cause you aint got none. Last part was in your language so you could understand.
CRYBABY ASSHOLE!!!!!!

Have a Nice Day![:-veryangry-:]

Bob Bullock

I thought out spending was the standard in NHRA .... most money wins.
If you can spend the money to make it the fastest ...get a machinest that can do the math ... light is light. I dont own or know any dogs in this fight but....
If car is not legal. It changes everything....would suck to be knocked out 1st round by a car deemed illegal 6 rounds later. Seems everybody is ready to bitch at tech for overlooking stuff but when they catch a cheater they get bitched at. Well I say ...good job tech. Who agrees with this!!!


Ford-Lite
Half the Cylinders & No Carbs

That is a pretty good post above. However, everyone that races has been beaten by alot of illegal cars. 12 grams is 12 grams too light. I don't agree that a rod and piston on any combo can be pulled, inspected, and reassembled in 5 hrs. Some can do it, some can't. I've waited 2 hours just to get heads verified after a record run. What about a broken bolt? Installing a heli coil and other problems that can arise from any mechanical surgery? Gotta be some allowable time between the start of eliminations. I'm glad to see protests and glad to see illegal stuff tossed. On the other hand, I hate to see someone buy an engine and get a surprise on a supposedly legal piece. If nothing more than the 12 grams were found I would say that the car owner knew nothing about the problem. However, we now have a spec to measure by and that is good. I don't personally know the guys that put up the money for the protest but I would go easy on the Louisiana crowd. Some of the best guys around are from that area of the country.

I am ok with the protest procedure in general, I am wondering if a clarification from NHRA is in order on the timeliness. If this is the standard, I could see the guys improving their odds by going after some of the killer repeat winners with a last minute protest. As much as this could improve the chances for rest of us I believe there should be some standard for the time allowed to get the teardown done and make first round. Maybe this is actually a positive. I mean, anytime we have any delay, NHRA knocks out the class run offs to save time, I bet it is in their playbook. Maybe the tech official that squeezed in the 5 hour piston pull should be put in charge of the sportsman class schedule! At least we would get to run it then! http://www.classracer.com/html/happy.gif

12 grams, anyone actually realize how much 12 grams is, that could be the difference in ring packages from one Mfg. to another, difference from OEM rod bolts to ARP. I have seen digital scales be 5 grams difference , but just like a cam thats .001 to much lift with THERE gauges, out is out.

The real thing that gets me is the time line, does this mean a precedence has been set and now it's going to be OK to protest whoever you run first round so you can buy a bye run ?

Decades ago, the protest procedure at some tracks was if you were protested, you "ran under protest".

This meant that during eliminations, you could be eliminated, but you could not eliminate anyone else. If you (the one under protest) beat someone, they returned for the next round. If you were beaten, you were out.

After all racing was completed, the tear-down took place.

I agree that it is a good thing nhra stuck to the weights and tossed the guy, I wouldnt have a problem with that if it had been done on saturday. Now unless they make a rule, or enforce the one they have...
"Contestants protest must be filed with the proper officals the day prior to eliminations (class and/or eliminations) of that category.....NHRA reserves the right to reject any protest filed that it determins, in its sole and absolute dicretion, is frivolos or intended to harass another competitor or to other wise gain some unfair advantage." It is a tough situation though because whos to stop the nex guy from doin it to pick up points. Rule book states "Remove oil pan, rod, piston, and inspect crank.....$500", but i guess it could have been more in this instance.

Bud,
Let me add a little more info about Grams. 12 grams is the weight of 12 one dollar bills. I've never weighed 100 dollar bills(Franklins), but I would bet they weigh the same as 1 dollar bills. 12 Grams of piston & rod weight could be a samll amount or large amount. I guess it depends on what currency you base it on.

Adger Smith

Mr. Pendarvis,
Why did you have reason to believe the car that outran you was illegal? Was it really only a matter of anyone that outruns you in class, you will protest?