Entrys Low at Pomona
 

Looking at the entry list at Pomona and it looks very low with 3 weeks to go. Only 50% full

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2 grade points can get you in Ponoma; amazing. Super Comp not filling up yet even more so.

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Only two Top Fuel cars. signed up. Not quite the norm. I wonder if they will have buy backs for them?

http://www.nhraeventreg.com/ListEventStatus.asp

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how bout the Gators only 41 cars total in ALL classes as of now----Will get better later on with release dates but still!!!!

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Everyone knows its not near as hard to get into a National event like it used to be, so why give NHRA your money any sooner than you have too?
Chuck

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I hope this is not a sign that we are losing more support of our sport from the membership. Its not fun racing with low car counts and the guys your use to seeing in the pits.

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Right now it takes a grade point 7 to sign up for SS at the Gators. I have 5 grade points and can't enter until the 18th.

I don't know about Pomona but that is probably why the Gators are empty right now...

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Pomona is at 2 grade points....goes to 1 point next week. Agree with Chuck, why let them hold your money?

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Wouldn't it be something if they held a drag race and nobody showed up???

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Yeah, but there'd be someone there, looking for a cheap and easy win.

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Unless NHRA had a meeting with the DOT of California, there maybe a low pro car count due to the trailer issues. It cost the one racer last year from what I understand $17K to get his rig loaded onto a low boy to get out of California. All most all the rigs are illegal according to California due to the lenght. How many changed there rigs out to satisfy California?

Casey Miles
248H Stock?

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As I understand the problem, CA has an overlength provision for race car rigs, but it didn't specify that the trailer can be over 53 which is the limit, and almost all the pro rigs are 56 hence the problem, and unlike Florida which has a $15 one year permit for such rigs and are really glad to see you and take your money. I don't understand why a state that is completely broke hates all things that help the economy, but then again, its the left coast. I'm sure they can just legislate themselves out of debt (9 bil) NHRA should complete the move to Indy, do away with Pomona (the neighbors hate the crowd, and the economic impact too). Looks like the sportsmen are going, but the pros maybe just didn't register yet.

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CA also has a max limit for all rigs non commercial of 65 ft. Some of the friends last fall were turned around on I-10 and sent back to AZ. The friend was told any rig registered RV is limited to 65 ft.
It amazes me how STUPID some states can be by running revenue out of the state with these silly rules.
I am not sure I will be going back again...
My 2 Cents
Rick Cates

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Do you really need 53+ feet of trailer?
Do you really need 65+ feet of rig?

As for Pomona, take your pick:
1)High cost of fuel
2)Bogus HP ratings
3)Bogus cars
4)Loss of true class racing
5)Loss of contingency
6)General distrust of NHRA

NHRA S/SS racing is dying. Sure there are the wealthy or the locals who will continue to support the national events. Let's face it, you will never be able to drown out wealth, ego, or the chance to win a wally. But for the most part, more and more racers are turning to local combos or bracket racing. The local combos offer better payouts with less racer investment in money and time. With the bogus HP ratings and idiotic structure of class runs, most nationals have become joke anyway. Anybody that thinks a 2012 Wally has any meaning as compared to a 1992 Wally, or even a 2002 Wally, is only fooling themselves.

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Or, Maby its because its still a month away? Hmmmm Relax everybody !!!!!!!

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63 entered out of a max. of 70 Stockers aint that bad...just sayin

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How does John Force get all of his convoy in and out of the land of fruits and nuts?:rolleyes: His rigs HAVE to be over limit! Jim

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John's just an "old truck driver" He probably knows some old dirt roads through the desert! LOL

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Since Force is form Calif. all his rigs are the legal 53 foot. Old truck drivers know how to not get caught, dont cheat.

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Check the tags on his rigs......... :-)
They weren't Calif tags in the past.........:-)

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I think I will get some towing hubs, a tow bar, an old truck and go to the races with Bob. Bob tell me you drink a little beer after the race, please. You need one to get the slicks off and bolt on the towing hubs, to install the skinny towing tires.

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Several years ago, a neighbor bought a new motorhome. The tags for the first renewal were well over $1000.My 20 year old Chevy Silverado 1/2 ton is $160.00. my son's '08 Audi is over $200. Insurance is a lot more here, due to the taxes and fees levied on it, and the fact that the risk factors aren't the best here,as well.The blind greed and stupidity of state government is so out of control that there is no good economic reason to be here,unless you still work here and have a house. Add to that all, a rather high state income tax and sales tax between 8-8.5%. They act like any money you have is really theirs, and they are doing you a favor to let you retain a small portion of it. Problem is that as this state goes, so goes the rest.

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The preferred exit is to the east.

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I don't care for the heat. I think north has an appeal to me. No place on earth,however,is without its problems. Its an issue of which set of problems are we willing to live with?

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huh....please explain bob

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Anybody that thinks a 2012 Wally has any meaning as compared to a 1992 Wally, or even a 2002 Wally, is only fooling themselves.[/QUOTE]

huh....please explain bob[/QUOTE]


Maybe they are like wine, they get better with age.......

Dennis Breeden

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I never said his rigs are taged in Calif. Said "hes from" and they still have shop in Cali even if everything is now based out of Brownsburg

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OK, I have been going through some old ESPN videos and I could see what looked like Indiana tags on Force's rigs. Does this jive with the facts or are my eyes foolin' me? Jim


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Would you care if your Trailer(s) were 3 feet shorter if you had 8 of them?

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regarding trailer length word on the street is that many of the Pro Cars (TF/FC/PS) as well as lotsa other teams are/have been using 56 foot trailers in the past--that's why ya see so many for sale now--K Bernstein quit partially because of this mostly cuz NHRA would not get involved with the Ca Hwy people-----Comp

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All of John Force rigs are tagged from Indiana for tax purpose. Jeff Teuton idea has some merit, more money left over for beer and food. Maybe this would be a great time to send a message to NHRA and let them come to you for once with an attractive packages: with each entry two crew enter for free and lunch every night, beer can be had at the Ford Tent. At the very least you would feel the love when knowing you're getting sc$#$ed. Claude

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Don't the orignal Drag Paks come already equipped with towing hubs from the factory. :D

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No, but they do come equipped with trailer wheels and tires! Jim:rolleyes:

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And the trailer tires work really great........... on your trailer....

Did you know that originally.......Chrysler Corp was going to put space saver spares on the cars?

But sanity, provided by my hero Mike P, reasoned them into the trailer tires which at least won't go to recycle pile until they are worn out.

Ours went onto our trailer. Useful indeed.

David
The New Hemi Guy

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Stock is 1 car over the quota and S/S needs 2 more cars to reach the quota.... Git er done ! ! !

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Jeff,
Can you please post the information about the Florida permits? We are planning on going to Gainesville and need to get whatever we need (besides beer and wine--in proper stemware, of course).

Thanks,
Patsy

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Florida, FLDOT and the application is there, might have to fish around, but it's there. Up to 100 ft and good for one year 15$. Get a couple of feet extra is what they told me the first time. It's the same price.

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When I had the big trailer I got the permit. Never had to show it though. But it was simple did it on line. I called them and they gave me the permit number before it came in the mail.

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I was surprised at the 65' limit so many states have. My regular 40' motor home and little 24' trailer is 3' over length about everywhere. Dumb-azzed me, I wasn't aware of that before I bought it. Luckily I have not been stopped yet. Most are longer than mine.

Best advice I ever got was from Jeff about trailer tires. Also (same dumb old man) I wasn't aware trailer tires are only speed rated to 65 MPH. Now have Micheleans speed rated at 112 MPH. The 10 ply side walls he recommended also stopped the sway when meeting or passing big rigs. I would not use my DP's trailer tires on my trailer. Talk to Jeff about that. He knows.