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boster 01-15-2012 04:24 PM

Roll Call , ADRL Heads Up
 
Who will race the new ADRL head up series for the new Cobra Jets and Drag Pack's ?

Count me in for at least a couple races

2008 SC Cobra Jet CC/SA @ NHRA Legal Weight 3650LBS

Andys dad 01-15-2012 05:02 PM

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Of course it depends on the rules - LMAO - I don't really care what they are

However - with business and college obligations - plus a race schedule - I am afraid we would be limited to - AZ, NV, OR, CA (maybe NM, UT, CO, WY, ID) basically within $1200 miles of us

Hope we get to participate

:-) peace

Ron

Jack Hodge 01-15-2012 05:34 PM

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Count us in for a few depending on the details.

2010 Super Cobra Jet #41

2012 Super Cobra Jet #41

Stocker 2 01-15-2012 06:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andys dad (Post 304060)
Of course it depends on the rules - LMAO - I don't really care what they are

However - with business and college obligations - plus a race schedule - I am afraid we would be limited to - AZ, NV, OR, CA (maybe NM, UT, CO, WY, ID) basically within $1200 miles of us

Hope we get to participate

:-) peace

Ron

Better check the website and schedule for location of the races...

www.ADRL.us

Sorry but nothing out west

boster 01-15-2012 07:20 PM

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Jack, are your cars stock or super stock ?

Jack Hodge 01-15-2012 07:33 PM

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Super Stock

boster 01-15-2012 08:47 PM

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Dont think they can run in the ADRL deal , its only for nhra stock

442OLDS 01-15-2012 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by boster (Post 304099)
Dont think they can run in the ADRL deal , its only for nhra stock


Probably a stupid question,but I will ask it anyways:

What is the difference between the SUPER STOCK cars and the "Stock" cars?????

Jack Hodge 01-15-2012 09:41 PM

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Well that will keep the mustang count down since there are alot more SS CJs running than Stk CJs especially of the 2010-12 cars

I guess we could swap super chargers and rear tires.

Sounds like to much trouble.

RJ Sledge 01-15-2012 10:34 PM

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The ADRL deal sounded great at first, looks like they have a "few" obstacles to clear. What a bummer, not allowing SS's (the difference is the second "S") and not having the correct zip code.

How long did the original Top Stock last?? Hope this one keeps away from the same problems experienced by the first one.

RJ

GUMP 01-15-2012 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by R J Sledge (Post 304121)
The ADRL deal sounded great at first, looks like they have a "few" obstacles to clear. What a bummer, not allowing SS's (the difference is the second "S") and not having the correct zip code.

The difference is the four liter supercharger.

Jack Hodge 01-15-2012 10:37 PM

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My thoughts exactly

Jack Hodge 01-15-2012 10:44 PM

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My 2012 SCJ with 4.0 SC @ 3485 running SS/BA still ran 9.2 at divisionals in Tulsa this year. So if I had to weigh 3650 lbs Wouldnt this be a pretty level playing field?

Jack Hodge 01-15-2012 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Hodge (Post 304126)
My 2012 SCJ with 4.0 SC @ 3485 running SS/BA still ran 9.2 at divisionals in Tulsa this year. So if I had to weigh 3650 lbs Wouldnt this be a pretty level playing field?

Especially since we would be running 1/8th mile and these CJ's dont really come on strong until the big end of the track

chlngr73 01-16-2012 03:27 PM

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Were in for at least 2 races, houston and dallas. Looking at memphis as a possibility too.

As long as they keep the same NHRA rules and the weight breaks right, this should be some good heads up racing. It's about time they came up with heads up racing since top stock. I was still in college at that time and missed out on all the fun! Bring on the wheelies!!!

David Buckner

09 Challenger CC/SA 6.1 #98

Jack Hodge 01-16-2012 04:49 PM

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Would someone please make it clear. Is this class for Stockers only? All we own and all we have sold other than the 2008 FR500CJ are all Super Stock.:confused:

Ed Wright 01-16-2012 05:05 PM

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Is ADRL stuff all 1/8th mile?

Jack Hodge 01-16-2012 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 304209)
Is ADRL stuff all 1/8th mile?

Yes Ed as far as I know.

chlngr73 01-16-2012 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Hodge (Post 304207)
Would someone please make it clear. Is this class for Stockers only? All we own and all we have sold other than the 2008 FR500CJ are all Super Stock.:confused:



Short Version 3250 V8 Unblown, 3450 V10 Unblown, and 3650 Blown all subject to adjustment, but any adjustment will be with a fine carving knife, not a fire axe. NHRA rules, specs, 9 in tire Stick & Auto same. There have been about 400 of these new cars sold, new ones are getting finished as time and money have permitted. And maybe some SuperCar races at different tracks. I am hoping this grows. We learned plenty from Top Stock, what to do and not do, so I am hoping for longevity, but I do know the pitfalls of Top Stock and SS/AH. Sorta like the old cars of the 60's, and maybe with a new crowd that knows more about computers than heads. Any interest jefft@southlanddodge.com 985-804-6161 cell or business 888-876-1817 leave a message with the receptionist, but tell her it is about racing. More as it unfolds.

sounds like stockers only to me with the 9 inch tire rule. Give jeff a call or an email, I'm sure he has been answering questions a lot lately.

And yes Ed it is 1/8 mile only, I kinda like the idea. Half the distance, only tear up half as much stuff.........theoretically!!!!

denbreeden 01-16-2012 05:38 PM

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So David, I take it you and your brother were not able to break into the adult film industry after Indy, lol. That's ok, you need to be out here with the rest of the Mopar bunch. Are you coming back to Indy this year?

Dennis Breeden
A/SA or CC/SA or whatever

X-TECH MAN 01-16-2012 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by chlngr73 (Post 304214)
Short Version 3250 V8 Unblown, 3450 V10 Unblown, and 3650 Blown all subject to adjustment, but any adjustment will be with a fine carving knife, not a fire axe. NHRA rules, specs, 9 in tire Stick & Auto same. There have been about 400 of these new cars sold, new ones are getting finished as time and money have permitted. And maybe some SuperCar races at different tracks. I am hoping this grows. We learned plenty from Top Stock, what to do and not do, so I am hoping for longevity, but I do know the pitfalls of Top Stock and SS/AH. Sorta like the old cars of the 60's, and maybe with a new crowd that knows more about computers than heads. Any interest jefft@southlanddodge.com 985-804-6161 cell or business 888-876-1817 leave a message with the receptionist, but tell her it is about racing. More as it unfolds.

sounds like stockers only to me with the 9 inch tire rule. Give jeff a call or an email, I'm sure he has been answering questions a lot lately.

And yes Ed it is 1/8 mile only, I kinda like the idea. Half the distance, only tear up half as much stuff.........theoretically!!!!

Just DO NOT allow the racers....no matter how much they cry and stamp their feet........the manufacturers, or any sponsors try to re write and put into place the rules that the ADRL put into place from the start. Make SMALL adjustments as you go. Make tear downs MANDATORY or it will fail.

Jack Hodge 01-16-2012 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 304225)
Just DO NOT allow the racers....no matter how much they cry and stamp their feet........the manufacturers, or any sponsors try to re write and put into place the rules that the ADRL put into place from the start. Make SMALL adjustments as you go. Make tear downs MANDATORY or it will fail.

I think this class will be great for the Mopars because they are all stockers I believe. However the majority of CJ's are all Super Stock. I think 13 of 50 were Stockers of the 2010 build sticks out in my head and that number was less in 2012. I will check and see.

PB Candies 01-16-2012 06:22 PM

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The Candies should make a few of them.:) Hopefully the rules allow the smaller ci V8 NA cars to be competative.

PB Candies
4312
DP 13
CJ 13

Larry Hill 01-16-2012 09:17 PM

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Sean Cour 01-16-2012 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Hodge (Post 304226)
I think this class will be great for the Mopars because they are all stockers I believe. However the majority of CJ's are all Super Stock. I think 13 of 50 were Stockers of the 2010 build sticks out in my head and that number was less in 2012. I will check and see.

Jack, of the 2010's, only nine were stockers. 41 super stockers.

Hope this helps, Sean

Jack Hodge 01-16-2012 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean Cour (Post 304273)
Jack, of the 2010's, only nine were stockers. 41 super stockers.

Hope this helps, Sean

Thanks Sean. We would just love to have a place to run our cars heads up.

Andys dad 01-16-2012 10:03 PM

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With the new classes - don't some of the CJs come back to stock?


:-) peace

Ron

NewHemi 01-16-2012 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Hodge (Post 304126)
My 2012 SCJ with 4.0 SC @ 3485 running SS/BA still ran 9.2 at divisionals in Tulsa this year. So if I had to weigh 3650 lbs Wouldnt this be a pretty level playing field?

Leave it at the previous weight, and take off the super charger, then the field will be level.

Supercharged vs naturally aspirated is simply not right.

David
The New Hemi Guy

boster 01-16-2012 10:55 PM

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The super stock 4L car can run 5.70 in the 1/8. Dont think that would be fair . But if it is I have 2012 #15 race ready now to bring to the show

Jack Hodge 01-17-2012 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by boster (Post 304292)
The super stock 4L car can run 5.70 in the 1/8. Dont think that would be fair . But if it is I have 2012 #15 race ready now to bring to the show

Bo dont you agree there needs to be a place for the 4L cars?
And how fast are they gonna be @ 3650

GUMP 01-17-2012 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Hodge (Post 304303)
Bo dont you agree there needs to be a place for the 4L cars?

You would need to haul a trailer to have enough weight to be on a half-way level playing field. Nothing built will run with the 4L Mustangs.

boster 01-17-2012 09:31 AM

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Jack , it would be nice to have a heads up series for the super stock 4L cars . But first we should try to get it worked out for the stock cars. Since your on the west coast you might try the PCSCA for some races . They have a bunch of classes for the mustangs to run in and some sponsored by Ford

Gump is right on the weight and the 4L

Jack Hodge 01-17-2012 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by boster (Post 304335)
Jack , it would be nice to have a heads up series for the super stock 4L cars . But first we should try to get it worked out for the stock cars. Since your on the west coast you might try the PCSCA for some races . They have a bunch of classes for the mustangs to run in and some sponsored by Ford

Gump is right on the weight and the 4L

Since when was Oklahoma on any coast?



Maybe the banks of the Red River...........

novassdude 01-17-2012 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by boster (Post 304335)
Jack , it would be nice to have a heads up series for the super stock 4L cars . But first we should try to get it worked out for the stock cars. Since your on the west coast you might try the PCSCA for some races . They have a bunch of classes for the mustangs to run in and some sponsored by Ford

Gump is right on the weight and the 4L

Jack some people think any thing west of the Mississippi is the west coast.

I think these would be cool races. But I don't think it will take long for there to be only the rich few left. Any all out heads up racing will get expencive in a hurry once egoes kick in.

Jack Hodge 01-17-2012 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Hodge (Post 304345)
Since when was Oklahoma on any coast?

www.hodgeford.com

Maybe the banks of the Red River...........

Bo I just think the car count would be higher especially for the Cobra Jets if there was a 4L class. How cool is it gonna be for there first race to have 4 DP Cars & 2 CJ's. Just a thought....................

Ed Wright 01-17-2012 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by novassdude (Post 304346)
Jack some people think any thing west of the Mississippi is the west coast.

I think these would be cool races. But I don't think it will take long for there to be only the rich few left. Any all out heads up racing will get expencive in a hurry once egoes kick in.

You are correct. Always works out like that. Sounds like fun until you get your tail kicked over and over by someone that has the money, talent and works on their stuff. Guys that can't keep up will whine about egoes. Racers think racing is about being fast (used to be), but the bracket guys don't seem to think that way. Guys that are trying to run their engines like they came are going to be embarrassed by the guys that had people like Patterson, Taylor, Westcott, Barton, etc, build their engines. I'm guessing car counts will drop after a few races. Be cool to watch for a while, if it were 1/4 mile.

Dallas Kelly 01-17-2012 12:19 PM

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Organizers and proponents should spend some serious time talking to Dick Butler about his multi-year experiences organizing heads-up racing features for both Stock and Super Stock within various Div.3 events. NHRA support and involvement was not the cause of the demise. The racers themselves were, and likely will be, the reason for failure of any similar future program.

GUMP 01-17-2012 12:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dallas Kelly (Post 304374)
Organizers and proponents should spend some serious time talking to Dick Butler about his multi-year experiences organizing heads-up racing features for both Stock and Super Stock within various Div.3 events. NHRA support and involvement was not the cause of the demise. The racers themselves were, and likely will be, the reason for failure of any similar future program.

We ran what I would consider a very good 1/8 th mile Top Stock program in IHRA Division 9. The new IHRA schedule killed it. We had pretty decent participation from start to end.

There are also a lot of very successful Sportsman heads-up races going on all over the country.

boster 01-17-2012 07:08 PM

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The way I count , looks like 6 mopars 3 CJ and 2 are super stock

1 2008 CJ

2 drag pack's

2 2012 4L super stock CJ

and of course Jeff's cars , 4 drag packs

The series will need help

Any prize money ?

Any entry fee ?

Jeff , tell us something

Jack Hodge 01-17-2012 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by boster (Post 304454)
The way I count , looks like 6 mopars 3 CJ and 2 are super stock

1 2008 CJ

2 drag pack's

2 2012 4L super stock CJ

and of course Jeff's cars , 4 drag packs

The series will need help

Any prize money ?

Any entry fee ?

Jeff , tell us something

Bo are you not counting your 2012. It is a 4L right? And we left a 2010 4L out.


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