1964 Nationals at Indianapolis
 

Okay all you dragracing history buffs, here's a complete look at the 1964 Nationals at Indianapolis. By complete I mean everything from the Stock/SS entry list to event coverage and then photos of all class winners with their cars. Enjoy!

http://www.colesy-juniorstockforum.c....php?f=8&t=310

Travis Miller

(Disclaimer: Opinions expressed by me on this forum are exactly that, my opinions.)

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Great Stuff Tavis

Thank you

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pretty neat stuff, we still have the class trophy.
http://www.colesy-juniorstockforum.c...f0fbb1c0ec91dd

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love those 58 pontiacs

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Thanks Travis, helped in making this day a better one for me.
MB

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I was immediately struck by how many cars were from the current model year. I didn't count, but it looked like a majority were new cars. I only spotted four entries that were more than 10 years old.

Also, the article claimed spectator attendance over 120,000.

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I was impressed with the physical size of the straight Buick motor in Pete Shadinger's D/Dragster. That looked to be the size of a Cummins diesel. In later years he ran 240/300 Ford six engines.
regards, Roland

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I am just a observer here, BUT is there any link between the number of current model cars entered and the attendance. Could this work today?

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Joe,

That's exactly what my '58 Pontiac looks like, 3x2's, black, Chieftain, auto, posi..........29,000 miles. Fun car.

JimR

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Nothing like a Pontiac

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Now I know what you are always saying that when you talk to me is like talking to a wall , you are the wall LOL nothing like being a Pontiac Person all Your Life huh Nitro . Hope all is well with you and the wall :D

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Thanks Travis, for the trip back to our roots. Can you grasp the pure lunacy of today's writers mentioning Stock and/or Super Stock in the same article, much less, the same paragraph as Fuel dragsters?!

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Tony , did you ever try racing a 48 - 49 - or 50 car . lol The 1955`s and up started the whole thing .

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For all you nostalgia racing buffs join us at the NE OHIO drag racers Geezer Gathering Jan 29. Doylestown OH. We show old 8mm movies from NE Ohio tracks from the 50s, 60s and 70s. Dragway 42, Norwalk, Thompson, even the old Akron Airport and Howland Dragway. This year featuring 64-69 photos from the Dragway 42 track photographer, Larry Miller and Tim Arfons will show family video from Boneville. See events page

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you know I still love ya Don, even though i know I'll never win a arguement with you. lol
Jim, my parents are looking for a replacement for "Black Magic" wonder if thats the one, lol

Guys the Geezer Gathering deal Jan 29th is a great party, I went last year and took my father and will do the same this year.

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It was neat to see some former comp racers Norm Larricia (Santo Volpe drove his A/SR) and Mauri Rose, Jr. (son of Indy 500 winner Mauri Rose, Sr.) on that list, as well as current comp racer Bert Dawson (car was a 39 Chevy-I'll have to talk to Bert about that car. But my favorite was the entry of our hometown hero drag racer in those days, Kenny Adams and his New Breed Drag Team's 57 Corvette.

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Thanks Travis! I was on the entry list but I think my car broke in the staging lanes that year.Back then all the guys in the neighborhood helped put the car together and one of us dropped a carb nut down the manifold! 58 pontiac F/SA. Bob Michael.

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Thanks Travis for the post . I was there in 64 entry 682 with my 61 409 Chev driven by my best friend and racing partner Phil Paliotti

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You're right, I never drove anything that old. But I do have fond memories of those lumbering Olds 88's. Big & ugly and ssslowwww. Liked 'em anyway

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Travis, thanks for the great post. Wonderful memories. The best of times.

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Great post!

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It's a shame that so many of the links & pics on these old threads no longer work. :(

I'd love to see all that was included on that linked site.

I have Don Gay's A/S win pic. IIRC, somebody posted that he got a DQ. Don't know if it was for that race, or some other. Anyhow, they let him take the class winner pic.

Also have pics of Mary Ann Foss, & her '58 Pontiac D/SA winner.

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That's what I have down, Don Gay DQ at 64 Indy for MUFFLER SIZE?

I cant figure that because it was already open headers by that time!


https://archive.petersen.org/pages/p...php?ref=924127

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"...I cant figure that because it was already open headers by that time!..."

I have no idea what the rules were for Indy '64.

When I started, in '73, you had to have mufflers & exhaust pipes to the back axle. But, the pipes coming out of the front of the muffs didn't have to be connected to the down pipes from the exhaust manifolds. Local rules didn't require stock size muffs. Mine had the round glasspacks I'd run on the street, with straight 2 1/2" pipes, almost to the rear axle.

And, the rules didn't say the down pipes had to be stock diameter. So, I had a muff shop make me a pair of down pipes. Used a real short section of stock diameter pipe, to connect to my RA manifolds. Then those stubs quickly enlarged to 3" diameter pipe. Had flanges at the ends, just like headers.

If you took a quick look underneath, from the sides, they appeared to be headers. Even had matching flanges on the exhaust pipes, so that you could bolt 'em up to the down pipes if you wanted to. Some thought I did have headers. So, I had to pop the hood & show a few guys that I didn't. I suppose they told others & soon nobody asked about 'em anymore.

The 1st pic below is what I assume is a re-creation of the A/S Don Gay car. There appears to be some sort of exhaust under the car, which is not headers or down pipes. Don't know if that is suppose to simulate what was under the car, at some point, or not. None of the pics I have of the original car seem to show any type of exhaust under the car.

Pic #2 is my Goat, in '73. You can clearly see the big 3" head pipe, under the car. Pic #3 is a closer view of the exhaust system. You can make out the front of the exhaust pipe & the outline of the bottom of the muff, just below the bottom of the frame rail. In pic #4, you can clearly see the head pipe & front of exhaust pipe, as the car launched. The head pipe looks white. But that was just the light shinning on it. They were not painted.

Headers were legal for our Stockers, in '75. So, I removed all exhaust system except the headers, from both cars.