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jmcarter 01-17-2012 04:41 PM

VP Reformulating C11, C23 and C25
 
Be aware....

http://www.nhraracer.com/content/gen...837&zoneid=132

Andys dad 01-17-2012 06:39 PM

Re: VP Reformulating C11, C23 and C25
 
Oh good just what we needed....

What do we do for C25 at Pomona?


:-) peace

tim worner 01-17-2012 06:59 PM

Re: VP Reformulating C11, C23 and C25
 
We will continue to use Sunoco products.

fredjohnston 01-17-2012 08:52 PM

Re: VP Reformulating C11, C23 and C25
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andys dad (Post 304446)
Oh good just what we needed....

What do we do for C25 at Pomona?


:-) peace

U buy C25 just like before. Looks like the new fuel won't be available until March and the old fuel is good until the end of 2012.

Ed Wright 01-18-2012 11:09 AM

Re: VP Reformulating C11, C23 and C25
 
Probably a price increase.

Eric Merryfield 01-18-2012 01:47 PM

Re: VP Reformulating C11, C23 and C25
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Zaskowski (Post 304527)
"The 2012 formulas will have a slightly higher octane and a slightly higher specific gravity, while the vaporization and energy content of the fuels have not changed."



I wonder if the reformulating of these fuels are more cost effective, in turn making the price drop for the racer? ;)

Well never say never but as I have now learned is a good practice, ask to have the fuel tested before you fill that cell! Even if its brand new....

Or as Tim said....

Eric

Chris1529 01-18-2012 01:49 PM

Re: VP Reformulating C11, C23 and C25
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tim worner (Post 304451)
We will continue to use Sunoco products.

I'm with Tim on this one.

SuperStock fan 01-18-2012 08:40 PM

Re: VP Reformulating C11, C23 and C25
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tim worner (Post 304451)
We will continue to use Sunoco products.

VP gas has no shelf life if not left under a nitrogen charge. Cam2(Sunoco race gas) is a far better product.:)

Ed Carpenter 01-18-2012 09:22 PM

Re: VP Reformulating C11, C23 and C25
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tim worner (Post 304451)
We will continue to use Sunoco products.

x2

Kenny Wigington 01-18-2012 09:36 PM

Re: VP Reformulating C11, C23 and C25
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 304534)
Probably a price increase.

That's likely closer to the truth ! Especially,for, from what I was told several different times, is timed out av gas, with some new ingredients thrown in, to liven it up again.

Grant Eldridge 01-18-2012 09:43 PM

Re: VP Reformulating C11, C23 and C25
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperStock fan (Post 304588)
VP gas has no shelf life if not left under a nitrogen charge. Cam2(Sunoco race gas) is a far better product.:)

We had several 5 gallon containers of C12 bought in 2008, originally filled from a barrel but full and stored in a shed. Last spring we finally got the car back together, poured in the old fuel and set the record first pass, fuel tested fine,
A few weeks ago still using up rest of the old fuel ran great numbers on the dyno...just my experience yours may be different.....

Grant Eldridge
E/SA 6650

Tom Meyer 01-18-2012 10:02 PM

Re: VP Reformulating C11, C23 and C25
 
The octane was raised about 7/10s of a point in c11 c23 somewere from 7to 9 and the c25 was raised about a full point. The pro stock motors were having a problem with detination so the change to c 25. C11 was always for a little lower compresion motors and when ran in higher compresion motors it to had its problems. It maybe just to bring things more in line with todays motors higher rpms. I think the prices will be about the same but if car gas goes to 5 dollars race gas will follow. Tom

Jim Wahl 01-18-2012 10:05 PM

Re: VP Reformulating C11, C23 and C25
 
I had trouble many years ago with C-12 not passing. Since I started running the Volare I have been using C-11 with no problems. Found out the hard way you can't store any race gas in anything but metal cans. The plastic gas cans are ok for the weekend but you must return race fuel in a metal container after the race. It will last a long time stored properly. That includes fuel cells. Jim

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Rusty Davenport 01-19-2012 02:38 PM

Re: VP Reformulating C11, C23 and C25
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Merryfield (Post 304555)
Well never say never but as I have now learned is a good practice, ask to have the fuel tested before you fill that cell! Even if its brand new....

Or as Tim said....

Eric

Is there any reluctance at the fuel check by NHRA to pass non VP fuels ??? I used Rocket for a while and it seemed they wanted to moan and groan a little or was it my imagination ???


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