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philbilly 03-12-2012 08:18 AM

Chevy 2 rear leafs??
 
Got a question for the duece owners. on the front leaf hanger the outer washer that centers your bolt that goes through the spring. i guess what I want to ask is can I make that of something stronger,do they offer a beefier part? I have never owned a leaf spring car before dont know which direction to go here.
last couple runs i made yesterday felt like something was moving under the rear of the car . after inspections this am I found that bolt had split the washer allowing the spring to walk around in the hanger,

Jim Cimarolli 03-12-2012 08:21 AM

Re: Chevy 2 rear leafs??
 
Sounds like you need to change the spring cup, the washer did not serve to center anything.

philbilly 03-12-2012 08:36 AM

Re: Chevy 2 rear leafs??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Cimarolli (Post 314806)
Sounds like you need to change the spring cup, the washer did not serve to center anything.

It may be the spring cup as you say. Looks like a freeze plug with 7/16 hole in it. it is about 2 1/2 inches round. Sure looks like it does the centering. I did use the term washer because i have no clue what it is actually called. Is there a replacement part?

Paul Merolla 03-12-2012 09:38 AM

Re: Chevy 2 rear leafs??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by philbilly (Post 314807)
It may be the spring cup as you say. Looks like a freeze plug with 7/16 hole in it. it is about 2 1/2 inches round. Sure looks like it does the centering. I did use the term washer because i have no clue what it is actually called. Is there a replacement part?

I made my own "washers" for my car. I cut 2 discs out of a piece of 1/4" plate steel with a holesaw. Can't remember the diameter, but probably about 1/4" to 1/2" larger than the hole in the spring mount. Then I had a machine shop cut a "lip" into the washers so they would fit inside the hole but not go all the way through. This pic isn't my car, but gives you an idea of what I'm talking about.....
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3129/2...a032058d5d.jpg

philbilly 03-12-2012 10:15 AM

Re: Chevy 2 rear leafs??
 
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...46117508_n.jpg

philbilly 03-12-2012 10:22 AM

Re: Chevy 2 rear leafs??
 
Here is pic of mine. Finally figured out how to post pic..lol

Dion Hildebrandt 03-12-2012 01:08 PM

Re: Chevy 2 rear leafs??
 
X2 on what Paul said, for the big hole I cut a filler piece the same thickness as the bracket welded it in and cut a thicker cover plate and welded that in. On the other side with the recess in it I put a filler piece in and than put a similar cover plate over that. As a note the car was on a rotisserie at this point and I welded the crap out of all the seams in this area, the car has not been run this way yet but it looks bomb proof. This car was bracket raced since before dirt and never had the issue described, the modification is just eliminating weak links is all. hope this helps.

Eddies66 03-12-2012 01:24 PM

Re: Chevy 2 rear leafs??
 
Here's a pic of the front spring pocket bolt assembly... the end of the bolt (threaded side) can only be tightened so far before it bottoms. Tighten that pig down and tack it in!

Attachment 11016

Jim Cimarolli 03-12-2012 09:24 PM

Re: Chevy 2 rear leafs??
 
What year is your car?

philbilly 03-13-2012 07:41 AM

Re: Chevy 2 rear leafs??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jim cimarolli (Post 314979)
what year is your car?

1966

philbilly 03-13-2012 04:07 PM

Re: Chevy 2 rear leafs??
 
I got my pieces made. Just need to Tack them in place. Should I bolt it together then tack the outer washer to the shackle? My inner washer is made to barely fit in pocket. I made mine just as Paul described. Thanx for all the info guys it is much appreciated. I will post a pic of it later. Job was easy after i got the general idea of what i was trying to do.

Dion Hildebrandt 03-13-2012 04:17 PM

Re: Chevy 2 rear leafs??
 
Being an Autobody guy it is my feeling that parts should be fit together before they are welded, once it is all tacked together or welded as much as possible take it apart and finish what cant be reached

Paul Merolla 03-13-2012 05:04 PM

Re: Chevy 2 rear leafs??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by philbilly (Post 315127)
I got my pieces made. Just need to Tack them in place. Should I bolt it together then tack the outer washer to the shackle? My inner washer is made to barely fit in pocket. I made mine just as Paul described. Thanx for all the info guys it is much appreciated. I will post a pic of it later. Job was easy after i got the general idea of what i was trying to do.

I'm glad it worked out for you. I haven't tacked mine in because I wasn't sure if I'd be able to get the bolt out if the washer can't move, since the bolt hits the inner rocker panel. I'll look it over again this weekend when the car comes home.

Mark Yacavone 03-13-2012 05:25 PM

Re: Chevy 2 rear leafs??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Merolla (Post 315136)
I'm glad it worked out for you. I haven't tacked mine in because I wasn't sure if I'd be able to get the bolt out if the washer can't move, since the bolt hits the inner rocker panel. I'll look it over again this weekend when the car comes home.

I believe you are correct, hence the reason for the moveable outer hole..
It's been a while...but I wouldn't weld anything just yet..

Dion Hildebrandt 03-13-2012 06:02 PM

Re: Chevy 2 rear leafs??
 
flip the bolt around, put it in from the inside going outward. Worked on my car with no issues, if I remember correctly

philbilly 03-14-2012 09:01 AM

Re: Chevy 2 rear leafs??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 315139)
I believe you are correct, hence the reason for the moveable outer hole..
It's been a while...but I wouldn't weld anything just yet..

I made mine to where they dont have to be welded in. The bolt will come out just tough. I think after I get it bolted together I am gonna just give it a couple small tack welds in case removal is necassary down the road. worked out great. I found a small issue with a bushing so I cant finish the job till I receive my parts from calvert.
As soon as i get this back together you all can help me twist on these cal tracs.lol new front springs and 90 10 shocks today.

philbilly 03-14-2012 09:11 AM

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http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...32938866_n.jpg

philbilly 03-14-2012 09:17 AM

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http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...00648678_n.jpg

I am still using the factory shoulder bolt. It appeared to be in good condition still


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