2013 5.0 Mustang testing at Bradenton
 

Evan Smith--please keep us posted.

Thanks

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Not sure if this is one but it says they ran a 7.961 at 173 at Bradenton in Testing.
Here is the link. http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-...-tasca-arsenal

Here is the picture

http://www.competitionplus.com/image...l_cobrajet.JPG

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The 2013 Cobra Jets were tested (again) over the last few days, but not at Bradenton. Jimmy Ronzelo and I made over 60 runs, mainly for durability. As you can imagine, I am not allowed to say what the cars ran. NHRA has yet to approve the hp and the class, so the elapsed times are moot at this point anyway.

I can say the supercharged version will probably be a BB/SA (note the word probably because I am guessing) and the NA car a B/SA or C/SA based on the hp and weight. The 5.0 is an impressive engine and can take a real beating. We were literally, at some points, lapping every 15 minutes.

If any of you could see what goes into building and testing one of these cars you'd be impressed. These are not just slapped together cars, the Ford team does basically what many serious racers do, they come up with ideas and test them. There is hours and hours of testing and building and tuning and wrenching to produce a turn-key car that is very competitive and reliable, consistent, safe, and easy to drive.

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Not sure if anyone here would be interested in my upcoming testing results....

but anyhew headed to Sonoma/Sears Point in a few weeks to test the new Boss 302 with the track key installed/launch control.

-Karen

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I'll be at Infineon/Sonoma 4/14 & 4/15 to test. 2010 Cobra Jet 352.

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Evan, as always your reporting and keeping us informed is much appreciated !!! Basically sitting here waiting to see how this turns out with NHRA and the cars classification. I will say I was very dissapointed the 2013 Coyote Cobra Jet is only available minus the 3rd pedal :confused: Any insight as to why Ford chose not to offer a stick version at least for the N/A version ?

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Can't Ford at least "offer" a stick version so guys can build their own in the future??? It just has to be an option right?

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Thanks, I'm working on them to produce a few stick models, because the NA 5.0 would be a really fun combo with a manual trans. I'm glad you like my reporting, I try to stick with the facts.

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Just because Ford doesn't build one that is a manual transmission doesn't mean that there won't be a classification for one so that others could build their own correct? After all Ford never built a pushrod 352, 428, modular 3v or (2012) 5.0 or a manual in 2012 or ever a convertible but there are certified combos for those correct? I'm just a stick guy just like Evan. The high winding 4.6 4v manual cars in (now defunct) NMRA Pure Street are a blast! I'm building a stick car to come play in the NHRA just waiting on a few more details and confirmation from Jesse Kershaw on weither the 2013 BIW kit will be available or if I'm starting with a flood damaged car. Mine will be a stick car. Waiting for the word also, on when the seats will be available.*

Side note: they have posted on FRPP the 2013 Cobra Jet engines up on FRPP site. (and the rear wheel/tire set)*
M-6000-SCJ13 for the supercharged engine
M-6000-CJ13 for the NA model.*

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Evan, is this the one you were testing...or was it the white one.

http://image.musclemustangfastfords....ag-Test-13.jpg

http://image.musclemustangfastfords....ag-Test-15.jpg

http://image.musclemustangfastfords....ag-Test-07.jpg

http://image.musclemustangfastfords....ag-Test-06.jpg

Read the rest of the article here...

http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...est/index.html

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Mr. Moose, that was the black NA car and the white one was supercharged. Jimmy Ronzelo and I drove both cars.

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This is what we are looking at as well. I called Ford Racing Parts and went into sticker shock on the price of the N/A Stocker Coyote engine in crate form..............$17,500 Retail :eek:

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Stkdiv5.....

Yes, but interest is sometimes different than what a person can afford.

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I saw this pic over on George Wright's site a few months ago.
He has a 5.0 Coyote engine hooked to a manual trans.
I believe it is a SS/GT combo, but I could be mistaken.

http://i43.tinypic.com/bfmid3.jpg

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Hi guys,

The 2013 testing went great and the cars are very consistent. Big thanks to Evan for lending us his driving skills and his feedback. It was with his help that the original proposal came together a few years ago and it's great to still have him involved.

In 2010 we did build cars with the 352, 428, and 4.6l engine combos and all have been out at NHRA races.

Regarding the cost of the 2013 engines at first glance it may seem high but there is a ton of content including the mass air meter, inlet tube, engine wiring harness, etc. We even include an extra set of plugs just so you have them on hand. They are ready to run out of the box for the DIY builder. When you compare to other competitive combos for a B,C, or D stocker the price is not out of line and I believe WD's will be willing to sell for less than the MSRP quoted on here. We left room for the WD's to work with the racer.

If you have any questions or want me to put you in touch with a racer friendly WD please PM me.

See you at the track!

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The 2011 V-10 Drag Pak Challenger replacement engine is $30,000. Count your blessings.

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Have they been Dynoed and broken in ?? Do you get a Dyno sheet and build book?

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Did anyone even notice that the 281 motor in the J/S car ran -1.46 under in the CIC race? That's -1.76 under the old index! Just sayin'. Oh yeah, @123mph. Jim

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Jesse, What options will be available as far as the BIW program for the 2013's ? I was told the rolling chassis Cobra Jet program was still undecided, and flood vehicles, or other insurance vehicles without body damage are often hard to come by

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Yes, and on 3-13-12 it got with another h.p. hit.
Now those are 248 hp

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March 13. So that means that was BEFORE it ran -1.46 under? Refactored to 248 hp? Really? What a joke! I thought the DP 5.9 was soft! Jim

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ALMACK, the stick cars got hp last year to 248, the auto cars got 13 hp 3-13-12 and 9 hp today to 257. Tom

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Thanks Tom. Jim

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link to the picture of the tire and wheel combo for the 2013 CJ

Roland

http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...KeyField=22553

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Thanks Tom.

When those 3v CJ engines came out they started @ 230 hp.
Laughable, because they had special cnc ported heads, big cams, a hi-flow intake, and huge throttle body.

Before it's all said and done I predict the factored hp on that engine will be @ 300.

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Just for the record they were rated 235hp to start. (Per NHRA's request)

I wish you clowns would get all your facts right before talk or post.

I predict the stick 281ci will stay at 248hp-253hp all year

The only thing that is a joke is you clowns jacking off on your key boards.
I wish one of you would bulid a 2010 CJ 281ci STICK. That is if you have the extra 70k around.

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Classy post Charles. I'm sure your mom would be proud. Jim

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Wow Charley, I'm impressed. A real generalization about all those who are on the board posting and their habits. Makes you look more like a clown than the most of us(there's always someone on every board that looks like a clown most of the time). The only reason you talk like that is because you own one of the cars with a very favourable HP rating. I'm quite sure you'd be just like many others here if you still had a different combo.
Everyone know's the HP ratings are a joke, but the fact you have the factories pushing these soft combos and you don't have to look deeply for an odd combo like some racers have done in the past, makes for a lot of soft combos and not just a rarity, is disturbing to many. I'm not knocking the fact that you were wise enough to play the game to your advantage, just that your post was in very poor taste as you implied everyone here(except for you) is a clown and you know that isn't the case. JMT.

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To those that don't believe the Cobra Jet Hp factors are too soft:
http://www.racingjunk.com/Stock-Supe...COBRA-JET.html

From the add:
This car will run 1.50 under in E/SA at over 100lbs. heavy, with 6 quarts of XP3, timing backed down, and shifting 500 rpm early! No ice or chiller needed.

If you let it run at its peak, it can go more than 1.70 under. You can also set this car up to run at whatever you like in minutes!

#1 qualifier at the Infineon NHRA Divisional and National events. Qualified #6 at Vegas to avoid the AHFS trigger. ONLY RUNNING TO THE 1000' MARK EACH TIME!

Only 17 passes made since new.

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From Belle Rose CIC Race..... when you can't get hurt!


3697 Brad Zaskowski
E6 ****WINNER**** 0.098 10.898 123.02
J/S Index: 12.35 (+/-): -1.452

It doesn't matter how you find it, old or new. There have always been soft HP factors.

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Charley, your sure that 235 hp was not Ford's request? LOL

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Never mind. Just got the story. 235 after you asking for 230!
Showed you, didn't they. LOL

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Charley I told Brad before Belle Rose to run it out the back door!!!!!!! LOL

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Lol, I asked him how big of a bribe it would take, we were considering taking up a collection.

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Wow......now "we" have to impress our moms?

Good stuff.....

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Andrew, I offered Brad $500 and he said he would for $1000. LOL

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Pay up Greg and Andrew!! She was balls to the wall in the CIC race final!

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don't hate me because i'm beautiful! :(

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You had to do it when it counted for hp. I think a grand would have done it.

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How Long are you guys going to beat this dead horse?? We all know what it is, and how "under-factored" it is. So lets all grow up and deal with it. Also we're all pretty proud of him here on the farm.