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I'm not being cocky, just saying that we all spend a lot of money, time, blood, sweat, and tears on our cars and we finally have a chance at running them wide open, without worring about getting hp and we are still not jumping at the new ADRL Supercar class. Guys WE have the fastest Mopar's and we want to race the fastest Fords and GM's. We have the class so bring ya @$& !!!!! We will be at as many races as possible and let's make a great show!! What's better than heads up racing???

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waiting for sponser not scared

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..........

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You do?

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Dun dun dun duuuun...

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As they say in cajun country "Fast you say" !?

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Ohhh, My....

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Did your dad put you up to this ?

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Mr. Barton, within the cars competing in the supercar class I do believe that we are the fastest mopars. We would love for you to come race with us and represent MOPAR.

Mr. Bo, lol no my father didn't put me up to this but I bet he would be proud if me! Lol

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I guess this thread is done!!

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Don't know about the thread being done, but you sure didn't get many who want to question your comments or try to disprove what you have said. This is why this will be racing that will be talked about for a long time. Good luck guys and put on a good show.

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Man you are correct. I was hoping to get a little more out of people! I know we will be there and run as fast as we can, I just hope other people do as well. If anyone want to test us they know where to find us. In either a Mustang, Camaro, or Dodge.

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Relax, I was just stirring the pot. I would love to join in on the fun but there is too many reasons not to go. We do have to work sometimes. The schedule has way too many conflicting dates, I would have to give up many good races in my back yard to travel 1000's of miles. Plus they only qualify 8 cars? That's pretty stupid. I wouldn't travel all the way to Houston to maybe qualify the race. With a new gig like this I would think they would take anyone who shows up.

#1 - Houston is way too far for me

#2 - Bristol is the week after Mopar's at the Strip and the same week as our first NHRA points race and the same week as our 2-day $10K race at Maple Grove.

#3 - I would really like to go to the Reading race in my back yard but its the same weekend as our Atco Nat'l Open. So unless our SS/AH guys plan on skipping that race and my car owner plans on going ADRL, that one is no good either.

#4 - St. Louis is the same weekend as the Englishtown Nat'l which is 2 hours from my house and has S/S class.

#5 - No excuse for the Richmond race yet. There is 2 conflicting dates but nothing I have comitted to yet.

#6 - Martin, MI race is the same weekend as the "Hemi Shootout" at Beaver Springs.

#7 - Charlotte is the same weekend as our Atco points race and the 422 Allstars race at Maple Grove in my back yard.

#8 - Memphis is the week after Indy which is bad enough, plus its the same weekend as our Englishtown points race.

#9 - Norwalk has no conflicting dates, but its the week before the Reading Nat'l and the week after that is the Dutch Classic. Really busy time of year for us.

#10 - Dallas is too far

I understand they don't know until you try it but the weights look ridiculous to me. And please, correct me if I'm wrong because I'm just going by memory.

At Indy, the V10's weighed 3590 lbs in AA/SA and the 6.1's weighed 3200 lbs in AA/SA. I ran 9.67 in A/SA, according to my rough calculations I would have run high 9.40's in AA/SA which is pretty close to what the V10's were running.

I think at Indy is was close between the V10's and 6.1's. But now for ADRL the 6.1's have to add 50 lbs and the V10's get to remove 190 lbs. Who came up with this calculation? That's over 2 tenths.

Plus if I was a 5.7 guy I would be pretty turned off because they have it even worse. 512 (3400 lbs) vs. 345 (3250) = 150 lbs for an extra 167 cubes?

I guess we'll see how it works out. I really do hope it turns out well. I'm not trying to piss on it before it starts but it really needs some adjusting.

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Just make sure you bring one of your witch doctors that can handle a snake bite! LOL:D

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Im cool Barton, I just want this to take off so maybe it will spread to other organizations. Heads up racing is whst racing is all about!!

U are pretty correct about the weight but we ran 9.26 @ 3550lbs in BB/SA.

Hope to see all at some of them!! Good luck to yall this year!!

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I agree with David on the weight issue, however if we don't go out and mix it up they won't be able to get it right. The last thing we want is to kill it before it starts. We plan to stick it out with the 6.1 and it looks like we are going to make all 10 races. David hope to see you at one of these events and lets see if we can't put a spankin' on that V10 and tame a few snakes.
Ray Buckner

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That's what im talking about Buckner! Mopar's need to stick together and bust some snakes! Then we can worry about beating up on each other! Lol

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GEAUX Joe GEAUX. I think there skeered.

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That V10 laid down some impressive numbers the other day, you and the Southland guys have done a great job. You know the Buckners are Mopar all the way, but we ain't cuttin you no slack.
Ray Buckner

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David, let me give you guys some credit here. I live in outside of Raleigh, NC and from my house I can be at 7 race tracks in 1hour and 45 minutes. If I want to drive 3 hours I know there is over a dozen race tracks we can race at. I continuously see our local racers going to California, Texas, Florida and other races but do not show up at local tracks. It is good that you support your local tracks.

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Buckner yall are strong runners as well and I promise we ain't cuttin no slack. Lol. I surly do hope we can have an all MOPAR final at one of these races!!

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Houston is a haul for the D1 guys. Can someone post all the weights? The rulebook seems a little vague.

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We've done that once before,all drag pac final,I bet we can do it again.I'd like to see David and Ray from up north join David and Ray from down south along with the Southland gang and show those Ferd guys a thing or two, Mopar style, LOL..whatcha think
Ray Buckner

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V8 N/A= 3350
More V10= 3400
V8 supercharged 3550

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NOOOOO!

Naturally-aspirated, (eight cylinders), is 3250 pounds!

In fact, here are the OFFICIAL weights as they're listed in the rulebook:

3250 lbs: All vehicles using a naturally-aspirated engine with eight cylinders
3400 lbs: All vehicles using a naturally-aspirated engine with more than eight cylinders
3550 lbs: All vehicles using a supercharged or turbocharged engine


In all seriousness, if any of you folks find "vague areas" in the rules, let me know so we can clarify. They're pretty new, ya know!

(Weights are listed pretty clearly under "Weight", Mike! LOL! It's in the Chassis section.)

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Bret , does that mean the 2012 copo 427 is 3250 ?

The V10 weight is very soft , all the Mopar weight are soft in my opinion . I was planning on making races but looking at David's reply it will be hard to pass up D1 races and nationals .

Bret , whats the payout to win ? who pays contingency ? will there be a world champ at years end ? Why do currently licensed NHRA driver need a new physical when they are current in NHRA and our license can transfer ?

David , that's Cajun math on that V10.

Joey bring the Guist Brothers to the race and it will be packed . Let them cook some gar fish


I think Bo Butner CJ is the car to beat

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I mean, I like the simplicity but the 427 Cobra Jet, 5.7, 5.9, and 6.1 Mopar are all running at the same weight?

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and the upcoming 427 COPO

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Mike ,

SC CJ 2.4L 3550 lbs

427 , 428 , 5.7 5.9 and 6.1 3250 lbs

V10 3400lbs

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Bo why are just the mopar light?? You mean to tell me that a supercharger cant make up 150lbs? Come on man really? The supercharger its self weighs 80lbs or so. Thats half the weight right there. I mean we will never know just what the cars will do till we run. I think the mustangs are soft. I mean we can all think different things but untill we have facts then we are just guessing. Your car and mine run close to the same so the weights cant be too off!

Trust me if i could stand the smell of the guiest brothers then i would load them up and bring them! Lol. We could have gar balls, gar stew, gar everything!! Lol

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LMAO , Team Ford Joey . Learned from your DAD start lobbying early. He sure got the jump on everyone with that V10 . You and Kevin going to feast on us

Guist brother will take a bath once a year they are stars . Love Swamp People . You think I could get them in a movie ?

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Lmao, you know i am a teuton!! I have to take after my father in some kind of way! I dont drive as good as him so maybe i can lobby like him!! Lol

brother if you want the guiest brothers i will try my damnest to get them. Where is the closet race you will be attending this year?

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In order,

1. Yes...and we KNEW that when we made the rules. As several people have noted, the first race is a week away. If you already know what is going to happen, please post a race report and save a bunch of people the gas money of traveling to Houston.

2. Congrats, Mr. Kenney! You are the FIRST PERSON since the concept was unveiled on January 13 to ask about a payout. You read that correctly. You are the FIRST. The manufacturers, the sponsors and the many racers who've contacted us have never asked...ONCE.

In any case, here’s the deal. Car and driver are admitted FREE. PERIOD. Crewmembers have to buy an all-access armband but that’s an insurance mandate, not an ADRL decision. We debated the purse and settled on a $150 “donation” to the purse. Whatever money is taken in is paid out. ADRL takes nothing. Under normal circumstances, this should make a purse which can realistically pay $1000 to win and be able to pay the semi-finalists. We’re only accepting fourteen cars for each event, (at this point, anyway), so that would make a maximum of $2100 for the purse.

3. While I’m not the contingency director, I can tell you we’ve had far more companies wanting to become involved in this program than we could’ve believed. However, I’ll stop there since, at this point, I’m not qualified to run down the list.

4. There will not be a point champion for the 2012 program simply because we’re fully aware the will be “tweaks” necessary to make the division successful in it’s first season. In reality, it really can’t be anything BUT a success since we already have accomplished the goals for the series prior to the first event. The entire industry is talking about it, cars are being built for it, the manufacturers are elated about it and the fans are already enthusiastic if not outright thrilled.

5. The licensing question has already come up and ADRL Technical Services, (Chris Bell and Jimmy Holzman), are already working on it. You guys have no understanding at all of the incredible amount of politics we’ve had to endure through this but suffice to say the NHRA “loopholes” regarding the lack of NHRA licenses in Stock do not apply in this case.

Now, here are a few things you folks should know. The SuperCar Shootout is NOT Stock Eliminator. It was never meant to be and it never will be. The SuperCar Shootout is NOT an “entry-level” category. It was never meant to be and it never will be. The SuperCar Shootout is NOT a “sportsman” division. It was never meant to be and it never will be. The SuperCar Shootout is NOT a “filler” class. It was never meant to be and it never will be. The SuperCar Shootout is NOT an “all run” format program. It was never meant to be and it never will be.

The SuperCar Shootout IS designed with heavy input from the manufacturers and the fans. The SCS cars will be pitted as to be the first vehicles the paying spectators see when they enter the pits and the SCS cars will be located close to the manufacturers’ midway since they will be working hand-in-hand with the manufacturers and dealerships onsite.

The SCS cars will not run at the beginning or end of the event “run order”. In fact, the SCS cars run just prior to the ADRL’s marquee divisions, Pro Nitrous and Pro Extreme, during qualifying sessions. During eliminations, the SCS cars will run at 7:30 PM, 8:30 PM and 9:45 PM on Saturday night…the absolute peak time for the spectators. Eliminations will be conducted at a pace which allows a build-up of the matches, information about the teams and drivers and plenty of time to showcase the models racing and even the manufacturers themselves.

We already have drivers like David Buckner doing displays and media interviews/appearances for Houston and we will have many more doing the same at future events. The event T-Shirt for the Houston event features an SCS car (CJ) at the top. The ADRL 2012 Series T-Shirt features an SCS car (DragPak) at the top. The radio commercials for the ADRL 2012 Series mention a few classes by name but specifically mention and explain the SCS. The TV commercials are exactly the same except they include video of SCS cars.

This is no small deal. It was never meant to be and it never will be.

The SCS was created after six months of intensive discussions with representatives from all three American manufacturers. When the concept went “global”, we began talking with automakers who never previously thought about a drag racing program. The media coverage for the series, including the very first event, includes outlets which often don’t even cover drag racing. When David Frieberger of Hot Rod Magazine heard about it, he immediately committed a team for coverage. That, in itself, stunned me.

The SCS is, quite simply, a place for folks to race new performance cars, a place for manufacturers and dealerships to showcase new performance cars and a place for fans to watch heads-up drag racing between new performance cars. It’s nothing more and nothing less.

Now, I’m ugly but I’m not stupid. I know there will be plenty of racers who don’t care about, don’t agree with, can’t afford, or don’t want to compete in the SuperCar Showdown…especially here at AlwaysHappy.com. However, I’d like to ask one small favor of you.

We spent a lot of time and effort on this program. If you don’t like it, we understand. However, please do your best to not bicker, belittle or complain about something which hasn’t even completed its first event. No matter how many racers show for the first race, I know from talking to all of them that every one of them is truly excited about this deal and plans to have a good time. They know a lot of eyes will be on them but they also know they’re not a sportsman category in this format and they are a part of the “big show”. They know that being at the forefront of fan interaction is an important job and they all plan to respond accordingly. The many racers who are behind this class “get it” and understand what will come of it.

Most of you know I’ve been a racer for many years. I know the drill and I can whine with the best of ’em…even when I’m driving five hundred miles into a 100% rain forecast for a race which pays $100 to win for $101 entry. However, just this once, accept this program for what it is and either support it or sit back and watch it. You never know; it might just become as big as a lot of people think it will.

Thanks in advance.

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Bret, that post is awesome!! I back u 300%!!! this is the class everyone has been asking for and now we finally have it. I will try to make every race even if my father can't. You can pretty much count on ONE BAD *** CHALLENGER at every race. I'm not worried about the money or the points, I just want to show the support to a class we have all wanting to compete in. I believe this will be an incredible class with incredible racing. It can only get better with time. The people who are complaining most likely won't show up at any race but you know they will comment on every event!! Let's go racing and have FUN!!!!!!!!!!!

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Great thread Joseph,keep the pressure on! Hope to see you soon! DragPa$#106

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Bret,, Sounds like a great program. Your post also is excellent and to the point. Good luck to the program and I hope more people accept it for its goals and attend and support the program. Heads up racing will benefit and Drag racing in particular will benefit from fan understanding and support.
Dick Butler

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I nominate Bret's post for post of the year.

Good Luck with this program.

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Bret, I agree this will be neat to watch. I love heads up racing and wish I had a new car to run this program. But you said this is not stock eliminator and I understand that but remember these Ford, Chrysler, and Chevys were all built for Stock Eliminator by the Manufacture, so these are Stockers running in your Super Car Shootout.

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At the end of the day it separate the Have & the Have Nots and the Have Nots will taper off going the races. They know it why else do they want a racer to say they will attend all races?