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Bret Kepner 03-23-2012 09:10 AM

ADRL Entries Now Open For Bristol and Maple Grove...
 
Effective immediately, the American Drag Racing League will begin accepting entries for its new SuperCar Showdown category which will present the world’s quickest and fastest production automobiles in national competition.

Competitors may contact Tom Grooms, the ADRL’s Director of Competition, at Tom@ADRL.us to enter the ADRL Spring Drags III to be held at Bristol (TN) Dragway on April 20-21, 2012, and the ADRL Northeast Drags II to be held at Maple Grove (PA) Raceway on May 4-5, 2012. Competitors are reminded to act quickly since the number of SuperCar Showdown entry requests will be limited for each ADRL national event.

Competitors will be required to complete an information registry, supplied by the ADRL, to be used in event promotion. The complete SuperCar Showdown rules are available at http://www.adrl.us/wp-content/upload...-2012-v1.0.pdf.

More information can also be obtained from the ADRL’s Director of Technical Services, Chris Bell, (Chris@ADRL.us), and the ADRL’s SuperCar Showdown Technical Director, Jimmy Holzman, (Jimmy@ADRL.us).

Hemi Moose 03-24-2012 12:17 PM

Re: ADRL Entries Now Open For Bristol and Maple Grove...
 
Bret, just wondering are these going to be 1/8 mile or 1/4 mile races...

Bret Kepner 03-24-2012 02:34 PM

Re: ADRL Entries Now Open For Bristol and Maple Grove...
 
All eighth.

Bret Kepner 04-05-2012 07:56 AM

Re: ADRL Entries Now Open For Bristol and Maple Grove...
 
Seriously, if anybody is going to these races, please contact Tom Grooms so parking can be planned. With the SCS cars in the first row, it's fairly critical to know how much space to leave for the trailers. Please let us know ASAP.

Bret Kepner 04-05-2012 02:33 PM

Re: ADRL Entries Now Open For Bristol and Maple Grove...
 
Thanks for your input, Mr. Karnac. I'll pass the word the ADRL is dead.

Frito 04-05-2012 06:36 PM

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But Frito sees great things for the SCS. It is for sure putting some new butts in the seats. Mine and a van full of friends.

Bret Kepner 04-05-2012 06:51 PM

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Darn, Frito! Now I have to forward a whole new message!

Fritos have been around for more than a half-century. Karnac has a great stage show in the '60s but let's face facts: he was WRONG ninety-nine percent of the time even back then.

Yep. I'm goin' with Frito.

Andys dad 04-05-2012 07:37 PM

Re: ADRL Entries Now Open For Bristol and Maple Grove...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karnac (Post 319973)
Karnac did not see any fans in the seat for the last race. As far as your SCS goes you got a whole 5 cars , lets give you a big big hand for the series thats setting the motor-sports world on fire .

I did notice one thing in your response , you did not dispute anything that Karnac said

You dont have to spread the word its virile , if ADRL does not come up with a revenue stream soon they are done . Sheiks checks have stopped, fans have stopped and your core racers are not happy .

Karnac = Knowledge Aided Retrieval in Activity Context ( above your IQ )

Not Carnac from the Carson show (One of Carson's most well known characters, Carnac was a "mystic from the east" who could psychically "divine" unseen answers to unknown questions. The character was taken from Steve Allen's essentially identical "Answer Man" segment, which Allen performed during his tenure as The Tonight Show's host in the 1950s. The Carnac character and routine also closely resemble Ernie Kovacs' "Mr. Question Man."

Try to get it right

This is a well educated and articulate person - Not saying I agree but ...

Good job on the history of the comedic Carnac

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KARNAC is a system being developed in the United States for use in profiling different categories of terrorist attacks to determine the components of possible future terrorist incidents.

Information for KARNAC is generally to be derived from structured, semi-structured and unstructured databases. This would include information derived from gun registrations, driver's licenses, residential and criminal records, as well as the Internet, newspapers and county records.

For example the system might raise an alert if someone attempted to buy components for bomb making, hired a car and rented a hotel room near the White House.

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BTW - Bret I mentioned this before - I sent you and email I hope it went unnoticed instead of just being ignored

Ron

:-) peace

Just A Fan 04-06-2012 08:11 AM

Re: ADRL Entries Now Open For Bristol and Maple Grove...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andys dad (Post 319980)
This is a well educated and articulate person -

A well educated and articulate person would have likely spelled "viral", correctly.

jmcarter 04-06-2012 08:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Just A Fan (Post 320063)
A well educated and articulate person would have likely spelled "viral", correctly.

Spelling aside, it grows tiresome for some people to continually want to "stir the pot", not offer anything constructive in the least. Hope Bristol sees a growth in the class, ADRL has a good chance of filling the stands at Bristol, that's serious racing country...

Hagen Gary 04-06-2012 08:33 AM

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I'm going to have to agree with Karnac. The SCS is a Rich Man's game with zero payoff in the end. How long is that going to last? These people didn't get rich enough to afford these cars by being financially ignorant. All anyone has to do is look at history. Heads Up Sportsman racing doesn't last.

Another Friendly Racer 04-06-2012 09:15 AM

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Drag Racing is a hobby not driven by payoff. Last time i checked, most of us are not getting paid to go play golf or whatever else you are doing. More power to the ADRL.. looks like fun.. dont whine if you cant afford to play.

Andys dad 04-06-2012 09:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Just A Fan (Post 320063)
A well educated and articulate person would have likely spelled "viral", correctly.

I think it depends on how you read it "You dont have to spread the word its virile"

Virile - refers to any of a wide range of masculine characteristics viewed positively. Having strength, energy, force

Viral - becoming very popular by circulating quickly from person to person, especially on the Internet OR pertaining to, or caused by a virus.

You may be too close to the Internet - it is definitely not a misspelling

BTW - I think the missing apostrophe was more egregious

Hagen Gary 04-06-2012 04:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Another Friendly Racer (Post 320077)
Drag Racing is a hobby not driven by payoff. Last time i checked, most of us are not getting paid to go play golf or whatever else you are doing. More power to the ADRL.. looks like fun.. dont whine if you cant afford to play.

I've got $1000 says this doesn't last 2 years. How about it Frendly racer? Lets get a freindly bet on...... Wait, your a F'in Nobody. I can't bet with a boy who hides. How am I going to collect?

bubski 04-06-2012 05:53 PM

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funny how the cars that were supposed to save stock and superstock now find themselves in a position needing to be saved themselves. :(

Bret Kepner 04-06-2012 08:30 PM

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I'll take that bet, Mr. Hagen...RIGHT NOW. However, there's one condition. I've got twelve other people who want in on the bet. If you've got thirteen long, you've got yourself a whole bunch of "potential earnings".

How about it?

Hagen Gary 04-06-2012 09:17 PM

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Bret, In case you didn't notice. The bet was to illustrate a point that his opinion does not matter because he doesn't own a car, drive a car, or have any business commenting on what WE receive for payout.


The bet between you and me cannot ever happen because of this statement that you made previous to the Houston race. It’s a complete LIE!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bret Kepner (Post 316505)
We already have enough for the field. It's the stragglers I need to have contact me.

Those 12 people you have to bet against me is probably not even close, just like your promise of a full field in Houston which got 5 cars. One was there just to test. Your not the next Wally Parks. Wake up

BTW, Car and driver Free for all events. You just have to donate to the purse. HaHa. What a joke

Bret Kepner 04-07-2012 01:14 AM

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So, I guess that's a "No".

Jerry Terry 04-07-2012 12:00 PM

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Man weather around the country has been wet , gas is high, its the 1st race shouldnt you give them a chance to get rolling. I think its awesome, good luck ADRL.

Jerry

Joseph Teuton 04-07-2012 12:36 PM

Re: ADRL Entries Now Open For Bristol and Maple Grove...
 
Its guys like the 2 idiots that make this internet thing not worth responding to but i cant help myself so here i go.....

First of all if you have nothing that will help the class shut the "f" up. Start your on post called "b'itching and complaining" and stay out of the way of people trying to do positive things. Trust me im sure there are plenty of people just waiting to chime in. If you dont have a car, will never have a car, never plain on racing in the class, or are just a sorry nogood worthless piece of poo shut up. We do not want to hear anything you have to say. You are wasting air that someone who cares can breath. Houston is the farthest race in the adrl program and it was suppost to rain. So having 5 cars show up was pretty good. And for you who said one was there just to test....damn he surly spent some money to test.....lets see paid the fuel, used his own motor home and trailer, flew a tuner in from dallas the day of the race, didnt stop working on his car till the race was over. I mean yeah that sounds like a reg. Test and tune for us. You werent there so shut up already!! Damn let us who want to race and who will race alone. So what if there is no purse to win...we knew that before we entered the field. Last time i checked bret is not trying to be the next wally parks. He is just like everyone else, he just wants to see heads up racing!! Get over it. You want to talk about a joke? Anyone who bashes something befor they try it is a joke!! Better yet anyone who doesnt even plane on trying it and still bashes it is a "f'in" joke!

Now to end on a happy note. Happy easter to all. I hope to see yall at a few races!!

Mack Reeves 04-07-2012 01:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JOSEPHTEUTON (Post 320266)
Its guys like the 2 idiots that make this internet thing not worth responding to but i cant help myself so here i go.....

First of all if you have nothing that will help the class shut the "f" up. Start your on post called "b'itching and complaining" and stay out of the way of people trying to do positive things. Trust me im sure there are plenty of people just waiting to chime in. If you dont have a car, will never have a car, never plain on racing in the class, or are just a sorry nogood worthless piece of poo shut up. We do not want to hear anything you have to say. You are wasting air that someone who cares can breath. Houston is the farthest race in the adrl program and it was suppost to rain. So having 5 cars show up was pretty good. And for you who said one was there just to test....damn he surly spent some money to test.....lets see paid the fuel, used his own motor home and trailer, flew a tuner in from dallas the day of the race, didnt stop working on his car till the race was over. I mean yeah that sounds like a reg. Test and tune for us. You werent there so shut up already!! Damn let us who want to race and who will race alone. So what if there is no purse to win...we knew that before we entered the field. Last time i checked bret is not trying to be the next wally parks. He is just like everyone else, he just wants to see heads up racing!! Get over it. You want to talk about a joke? Anyone who bashes something befor they try it is a joke!! Better yet anyone who doesnt even plane on trying it and still bashes it is a "f'in" joke!

Now to end on a happy note. Happy easter to all. I hope to see yall at a few races!!


Please tell us how you really feel!!!!!!! Don't hold back anything... I like your style......

Jeff Stout 04-07-2012 01:59 PM

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It just goes to show that people will complain about anything. My feeling is that Mr Kepner and Mr Teuton are trying to bring a new breath of fresh air. So many people are tired of being outrun by bogus HP cars, or being a filler at Nat events and not being able to show off your car, talent, or sponsor to a crowd of people in the stands because the first 4 rounds of eliminations were run Thursday and Friday and you couldn't drive well enough for Sundays final rounds. Now this event gave the racers front row, keys to the kingdom yet some of you whiners think it sucks. So now the late model vehicles have went out on there own and some of you guys still arent happy. They went away from NHRA and the class that you guys run in. I would expect cheers not whining. Free entry with a donation? So why does that have to rub some of you the wrong way? Pro rated purse? So what, the racers entering know what the purse structure was before entering yet its a problem for some of you whiners. Look at how bad the reactions times are. So what they are all bad, so why is that a problem with some of you? If you want better reaction times and sacrifice some ET on the score boards then go in deeper or go deep. Didnt think reaction times were so important for everyone to see. The .4 pro tree helps alot in eliminating red light wins. I thought it was more important to see the ET of these cars that are running flat out. I dont have the money to buy one of these cars like most of you but I dont need to bash the ones that do have the money to own them. Dont like the program dont watch it and dont whine about something you have nothing to do with it.

If I spent $1 on a lottery ticket and one of you guys spent $2 and we won $640m you would complain that I didnt spend enough. If I spent $2 on a lottery ticket and you spent $1 and we won $640m you would complain that I spent to much. Even though there is enough for everyone you would find a reason to complain. Some of you would never be satisfied.

Mr Kepner and Mr Teuton carry on. This is a great venue.
Yes I dont race S/SS anymore, but so what. Jeff Stout

Andys dad 04-07-2012 02:36 PM

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We will be at two of the race - even though each will require more than a 4000 mile round trip haul

We pay for our own prize money at NHRA events - some people don't get it

We don't do it to try and make a living - we do it because we love it

OK - Joseph you got me to break my "vow of silence" - damn you


Ron

Hagen Gary 04-07-2012 06:15 PM

Re: ADRL Entries Now Open For Bristol and Maple Grove...
 
At least this idot has the Balls to run his correctly factored car all out in NHRA. Sure can't say the same for you. I don't have to get so emotionlly attached to another venue. I could be wrong on this, but History says I'm not. Its my opinion, just like I think Bret with his over-hype is trying to hard to be the face of this thing. You calling people names because they don't agree with your stance is just childish. Grow up boy

boster 04-07-2012 08:10 PM

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Bret , can you post the entry list for Bristol? Im curious . This sounds like IHRA top stock , a few are happy and most wont race . I hate to say it but I think this thing needs to be re thought to bring in more cars . You cant run a series with only 5-8 cars per race and the same cars every race .

I SUPPORT WHAT BRET , ADRL AND THE TUETONS ARE TRYING TO DO ,BUT THIS REMINDS ME OF WHAT IS WAS LIKE FOR ME THE 3 YEARS AND 150K I SPENT AND TRIED TO KEEP HEADS UP RACING ALIVE . ( IT FAILED )

BRET , I PAID OUT OF MY POCKET AND IHRA HAD A GOOD PURSE 10-15K PER RACE AND IT FAILED BECAUSE WE HAD NO CARS THAT WANTED TO RACE AND SPEND THE MONEY IT TAKES TO RACE HEADS UP .

MAYBE YOU SHOULD TRY 6.0 HEADS UP CLASS OPEN TO ANY NHRA OR IHRA LEGAL STOCKER , RUN FASTER THEN THAT AND YOUR OUT , I WOULD BET YOU WOULD GET DOUBLE THE CARS AND STILL BE HEADS UP . ALL THE 5.80 CARS WOULD HAVE TO DO IS PUT IN 200LBS AND WERE RACING AND HAPPY . ADRL WOULD BE OPEN TO ALL.

IF THAT WORKED BRING IN A SUPERSTOCK 5.50 CLASS AND YOU WOULD REALLY HAVE SOME HAPPY RACERS .

MY THOUGHTS

Andys dad 04-07-2012 08:57 PM

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Bo - it sounds and awful lot like an index race to me - just with very fast stockers

I do agree we will need more cars and we will need to level the playing field with weight adjustments

If we do not get the V8 Drag Paks and the NA CJs - it will be tough to get the car count up

Right now the distance and cost of travel is a real issue - plus conflicts with the NHRA schedule -and finally the need to have an 8th mile setup on the car

Even if this is a bunch of rich guys (which we are not) these are not professional race teams - some have jobs or a business to run in other words a life outside of drag racing

We really want to do a couple of the SCS races but we have to pick and choose - not follow a circuit

Ron

Joseph Teuton 04-07-2012 11:24 PM

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Its so funny how a "driver" who doesn't haveca car that fits in SCS is the one saying it won't work. im not wasting any more time on pitty people!
Happy EASTER to yall!!

David Barton 04-08-2012 12:09 AM

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Does anyone know what the weather conditions were at the Houston race?

Hagen Gary 04-08-2012 12:38 AM

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As far as I know, Bo and Andy’s cars fit, and they are saying the same thing I am. You just have your panties in a bunch cuz my opinions have truth to them.
Next time you think about trying to censor other people’s opinions, you should check the scoreboard first. I don't remember seeing you putting your life on the line to defend not only this country's, but the world’s freedom of speech. That takes Balls. You, spoiled little boy, just want the men and even women to do that for you, while you enjoy those privileges and try to stop others, who have served this country, from speaking their mind.
I also think it’s amusing that a "rider" in a car that never turns on win lights, even though he chases everybody in the class, is trying to call himself a "Driver" of a Super Car. You should learn how to change the oil in that thing first. I guess if I never turned on a win light in NHRA, I'd be desperately looking for other avenues also. I didn’t buy a car that was ridiculously under factored just to baby it. That type of thought process makes me think you will do anything for an advantage. I would say check your car for illegal electronics, but once again, No win lights. So, keep it up. Drag out the factoring of your car for 20 years, even though you love running it all out. You need every advantage you can get.

Joseph Teuton 04-08-2012 11:17 AM

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Its funny how a father can bust his butt for over 50 years of his life to provide the lifestyle he wants for his family and along the way teach his children to do the same so that they can carry on that lifestyle for their families and some NO NAME labels you spoiled! Damn jealously hurts!

Hagen Gary 04-08-2012 12:48 PM

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Now thats funny right there. The little boy has to bring his Dad into the conversation. Wonder how many times Daddy has been there to save his azz if he's using him again. Smells more like spoild little boy to me.

Michael Beard 04-08-2012 01:07 PM

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Happy Easter.

boster 04-08-2012 02:17 PM

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Michael , thats funny (lmao)

Walker4108 04-08-2012 02:27 PM

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To say this is drag racing, this tread took a serious turn...

boster 04-08-2012 02:29 PM

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Ron , I agree with what you are saying . Yes I was referring to index style racing . If you think about it if the slow cars run 6.0's and the fast cars run 5.80's and you slow down the fast cars down with weight its really the samething .

Then on the other hand true heads up racing you have to work on your stuff all the time to stay ahead , then go to a race and win then get weight but on you ,thats not professional heads up racing and that sucks in my opinion.

I think what racers are looking for is a style of heads up racing were you race heads up and dont spend a fortune , so if you have a pretty fast car you can race and have fun without getting HP and a lot of tech or tear down and dont spend a ton of money doing it .

Thats why I think a 6.0 class would work . If you have a 69 camaro, 69 mach one , 68 firebird 400 , 2001 Firebird LS1 that will run 6.00 it is a true super car and they should them race and have fun . After all that what we all are looking for , some fun at the races.


Happy Easter to All

Joseph Teuton 04-08-2012 02:45 PM

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Well lets see, the only way to be "spoiled" is tone giving or get anything you want.
So me saying that my father taught me how to bust my azz is bringing him in this conversation? Not really. Trust me I can stand on my own, but you know as well as I that none of us would be anything without having someone to look up to! Sorry that I look up to my father!

Andys dad 04-08-2012 02:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by boster (Post 320484)
Ron , I agree with what you are saying . Yes I was referring to index style racing . If you think about it if the slow cars run 6.0's and the fast cars run 5.80's and you slow down the fast cars down with weight its really the samething .

Then on the other hand true heads up racing you have to work on your stuff all the time to stay ahead , then go to a race and win then get weight but on you ,thats not professional heads up racing and that sucks in my opinion.

I think what racers are looking for is a style of heads up racing were you race heads up and dont spend a fortune , so if you have a pretty fast car you can race and have fun without getting HP and a lot of tech or tear down and dont spend a ton of money doing it .

Thats why I think a 6.0 class would work . If you have a 69 camaro, 69 mach one , 68 firebird 400 , 2001 Firebird LS1 that will run 6.00 it is a true super car and they should them race and have fun . After all that what we all are looking for , some fun at the races.


Happy Easter to All

Tough problems

I was thinking only adjust after the first couple of races and then it is "work on your stuff boys"

Either way - you and I both know it needs to include and be attractive for more cars


He is Risen - He is Risen Indeed
Hope everyone gets to spend some great reflective time with family
Happy Easter

Now back to the Masters - come on Phil

Hagen Gary 04-08-2012 04:18 PM

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Joseph, Your Father has nothing to do with this. I have nothing but respect for him. You were called a spoild little boy because of this post. You couldn't respectfully ask people to but out. You threw a Temper Tantrum about Stock/Super Stock racers opinions that are put on the Stock/Super Stock Board. If anything, your ADRL crap shouldn't be in here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOSEPHTEUTON (Post 320266)
Its guys like the 2 idiots that make this internet thing not worth responding to but i cant help myself so here i go.....

First of all if you have nothing that will help the class shut the "f" up. Start your on post called "b'itching and complaining" and stay out of the way of people trying to do positive things. Trust me im sure there are plenty of people just waiting to chime in. If you dont have a car, will never have a car, never plain on racing in the class, or are just a sorry nogood worthless piece of poo shut up. We do not want to hear anything you have to say. You are wasting air that someone who cares can breath. Houston is the farthest race in the adrl program and it was suppost to rain. So having 5 cars show up was pretty good. And for you who said one was there just to test....damn he surly spent some money to test.....lets see paid the fuel, used his own motor home and trailer, flew a tuner in from dallas the day of the race, didnt stop working on his car till the race was over. I mean yeah that sounds like a reg. Test and tune for us. You werent there so shut up already!! Damn let us who want to race and who will race alone. So what if there is no purse to win...we knew that before we entered the field. Last time i checked bret is not trying to be the next wally parks. He is just like everyone else, he just wants to see heads up racing!! Get over it. You want to talk about a joke? Anyone who bashes something befor they try it is a joke!! Better yet anyone who doesnt even plane on trying it and still bashes it is a "f'in" joke!

Now to end on a happy note. Happy easter to all. I hope to see yall at a few races!!


Joseph Teuton 04-08-2012 04:54 PM

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Mr. Gary if you read the title to this thread then you will see that it has everything to do with ADRL. Second, yes my father is 2nd in getting this class started. Third he is also the man who has raised me to be the man I am today, so if you call me spoiled it has a lot to do with him. All im saying is that if u don't race the class don't talk about it.

novassdude 04-09-2012 10:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JOSEPHTEUTON (Post 320498)
Mr. Gary if you read the title to this thread then you will see that it has everything to do with ADRL. Second, yes my father is 2nd in getting this class started. Third he is also the man who has raised me to be the man I am today, so if you call me spoiled it has a lot to do with him. All im saying is that if u don't race the class don't talk about it.

Well in fairness Joe if you read the title of the form it says Stock/SuperStock. And everyone involved with this class keeps pointing out that this is not Stock or Superstock. Yet they keep posting about the races in this section of the forum.


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