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Lonnie Cox 04-03-2012 01:03 PM

Oil pump for stock class, sbc
 
Please just want to know, what pump will work the best and not rob H/P
Thank You:confused:

Ed Wright 04-03-2012 01:26 PM

Re: Oil pump for stock class, sbc
 
Call Larry Stewart Sr at 601-259-1597.

Wade_Owens 04-03-2012 01:31 PM

Re: Oil pump for stock class, sbc
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 319438)
Call Larry Stewart Sr at 601-259-1597.

x2, Larry's stuff is dead accurate and doesnt cavitate. NEVER had a problem, even with low oil levels or a lighter type oil...

Wade O

Joe Schaechter 04-03-2012 02:08 PM

Re: Oil pump for stock class, sbc
 
Schumann makes a nice pump.

http://schumannsdynamicperformance.c...31441/SBC140LV

Alan Roehrich 04-03-2012 03:11 PM

Re: Oil pump for stock class, sbc
 
Yep, that Schumann pump is a nice piece. If the low volume version makes you nervous, they have a standard volume version. I've been really happy with the Schumann pumps, they're made out of the same material as heavy rear end housings are made out of, plus they have billet gears, not powdered metal, and they have a screened bypass that dumps excess pressure and volume to the pan, instead of recirculating it to the inlet, where it heats the oil and aerates it.

Signman 04-04-2012 10:23 AM

Re: Oil pump for stock class, sbc
 
Stewart Pump for SBC. Used 1 season. Very good condition.
Make a fair offer.

signman1946@gmail.com

Jeff Lee 04-04-2012 08:07 PM

Re: Oil pump for stock class, sbc
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 319451)
Yep, that Schumann pump is a nice piece. If the low volume version makes you nervous, they have a standard volume version. I've been really happy with the Schumann pumps, they're made out of the same material as heavy rear end housings are made out of, plus they have billet gears, not powdered metal, and they have a screened bypass that dumps excess pressure and volume to the pan, instead of recirculating it to the inlet, where it heats the oil and aerates it.

Do you have a direct contact source? I want to inquire on an AMC build.
Thanks.

Alan Roehrich 04-04-2012 08:14 PM

Re: Oil pump for stock class, sbc
 
http://www.schumannsdynamicperformance.com/

The owner's name is Vergne Schumann.

I don't see a listing for anything AMC, but he makes stuff for Oldsmobile, so the possibility does exist. Vergne is real sharp, but he's kind of blunt.

Jeff Lee 04-07-2012 12:57 AM

Re: Oil pump for stock class, sbc
 
Thanks, l will call him next week.
Blunt and I get along real good...

alejan1975 11-25-2013 01:31 PM

Re: Oil pump for stock class, sbc
 
resurrecting an old thread here, but didn't think it necessarily should start anew.

Looking into a low volume oil pump for a SBF for stock eliminator. Schumann at one time had one listed, but i do not see this on their website anymore.

Jegs has a Low vol pump w/ cut down gears (.660" vs .875" stock) and a 40 psi pressure relief spring for ~$200.

I don't see any other options on the interweb and wanted to see if anyone had any experience w/ the jegs piece, or thoughts on a 25% reduction in gear thickness and 40 psi relief.

I'm inclined to give it a try but thought i'd ask first.

Thanks in advance!

Alex

Bob Gullett 11-25-2013 03:12 PM

Re: Oil pump for stock class, sbc
 
The jegs pumps are Schumann pumps.

SSDiv6 11-25-2013 04:36 PM

Re: Oil pump for stock class, sbc
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alejan1975 (Post 410224)
resurrecting an old thread here, but didn't think it necessarily should start anew.

Looking into a low volume oil pump for a SBF for stock eliminator. Schumann at one time had one listed, but i do not see this on their website anymore.

Jegs has a Low vol pump w/ cut down gears (.660" vs .875" stock) and a 40 psi pressure relief spring for ~$200.

I don't see any other options on the interweb and wanted to see if anyone had any experience w/ the jegs piece, or thoughts on a 25% reduction in gear thickness and 40 psi relief.

I'm inclined to give it a try but thought i'd ask first.

Thanks in advance!

Alex

They have Ford applications:

http://www.schumannsdynamicperforman...lock-ford.html

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-OIL-PUM...c413d0&vxp=mtr

alejan1975 11-25-2013 07:56 PM

Re: Oil pump for stock class, sbc
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SSDiv6 (Post 410238)

Thanks - those appear to standard or high volume. I am looking at the low volume low drag pumps

alejan1975 11-25-2013 08:00 PM

Re: Oil pump for stock class, sbc
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Gullett (Post 410229)
The jegs pumps are Schumann pumps.

Awesome thanks bob - I think I'll get one and see how it goes

cad 01-05-2014 03:04 PM

Re: Oil pump for stock class, sbc
 
Did you order one? Does it look any different than a stock melling?
Clark

Alex Denysenko 01-05-2014 05:28 PM

Re: Oil pump for stock class, sbc
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Schaechter (Post 319442)

YES X100 on the Schumann

Bill Diehl 01-05-2014 05:34 PM

Re: Oil pump for stock class, sbc
 
Are Titan pumps legal?

351C

Alex Denysenko 01-05-2014 06:29 PM

Re: Oil pump for stock class, sbc
 
We just signed up with Schumann as a distributor at the PRI show :-)

Alan Roehrich 01-05-2014 07:11 PM

Re: Oil pump for stock class, sbc
 
Schumann makes a very good oil pump, I've been using them for a while now. Much better than Melling, it is sad how far Melling has fallen, they once made a fine product, now all they care about is cost. The standard M55 small block pump they make is known far and wide for breaking. I won't even buy one now, the last one I bought was so weak it broke installing their own pick up. I'm not even real sure of the Moroso pumps, because they're a blueprinted Melling. At one time, that was fine. Now? Not so much.

Clay Valley Racing also makes a nice, albeit pricey, wet sump pump.

SSDiv6 01-05-2014 07:38 PM

Re: Oil pump for stock class, sbc
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Diehl (Post 415313)
Are Titan pumps legal?

351C

Any internal, wet sump oil pump is legal, including the Titan.
Nevertheless, for the price, a Schumman pump will do the job and more.

By the way, in another website you posted details about your choice for your Stocker cylinder head components. Therefore, it appears you have chosen a hollow stem intake valve that would make your heads illegal. Just saying...

Bill Diehl 01-05-2014 08:28 PM

Re: Oil pump for stock class, sbc
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SSDiv6 (Post 415347)
Any internal, wet sump oil pump is legal, including the Titan.
Nevertheless, for the price, a Schumman pump will do the job and more.

By the way, in another website you posted details about your choice for your Stocker cylinder head components. Therefore, it appears you have chosen a hollow stem intake valve that would make your heads illegal. Just saying...

Any aftermarket steel valve permitted, must retain stock head and stem diameters. Only engines OEM -equipped with sodium- filled valves may use sodium-filled replacement valves.Titanium prohibited

Ford did make 2 valves for the 351C

(D0ZX6507A) are hollow stem/stainless steel with 11/32-inch stems

(DOZX6505A) is a sodium filled 1.71 exhaust valve with 11/32 stems

You did notice that the 11/32 hollow stem Ferrea intakes that I am using are not sodium filled and the 11/32 Ferrea exhaust that I am using are solid stem correct?

Just thought I would clear that up

Thanks for noticing though

Bill

alejan1975 01-05-2014 11:17 PM

Re: Oil pump for stock class, sbc
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cad (Post 415274)
Did you order one? Does it look any different than a stock melling?
Clark

Yep, casing looks just like any other oil pump. Picking up the block crank rods and pistons from the machine shop this week, should be installing th pump in the next few weeks


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