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Dan Bernay 04-08-2012 10:34 AM

Traction Compound
 
Is it the individual tracks decision on which compound to use or is it mandated by the sanctioning body?
I realize cost is an issue.

Dave Ley 04-08-2012 10:37 AM

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Track's decision.

Alan Roehrich 04-08-2012 10:58 AM

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Dave,does that hold true for LODRS races? It seems to me that when NHRA crew is on hand, track prep changes considerably. We see less traction at several tracks when NHRA is there, Reynolds has been a prime example of that at times.

Duster 7695 04-08-2012 11:47 AM

Re: Traction Compound
 
At LORDS races it is up to the track to provide traction compound. At national events NHRA specifies the traction compound so it is the same at all national events.

Raul

Ed Wright 04-08-2012 02:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 320438)
Dave,does that hold true for LODRS races? It seems to me that when NHRA crew is on hand, track prep changes considerably. We see less traction at several tracks when NHRA is there, Reynolds has been a prime example of that at times.

Wow! That's just backwards for Div 4. The track often has a test session on Thrusday evenings before a points race. Pretty much never as good as Friday morning. Many won't "waste their money" (quote) on Thursday testing. The Div 4 crew is very sharp. I just assumed they all were. Learn something every day. LOL

Dave Ley 04-08-2012 06:33 PM

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In Div. 1 that is how it is done. Our starter makes the call on when touch-ups are done. Track supplies the compound. National Events are complete different animal handled by NHRA.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 320438)
Dave,does that hold true for LODRS races? It seems to me that when NHRA crew is on hand, track prep changes considerably. We see less traction at several tracks when NHRA is there, Reynolds has been a prime example of that at times.


ken robinson 04-09-2012 09:38 AM

Re: Traction Compound
 
What have some of the tracks using for the local races last year and what are they planning to use this year ? What is nhra using at natioials ?

Don Kennedy 04-09-2012 10:55 AM

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As has been my experience for many years the Local tracks use very little traction compound . if the local tracks use any at all it is for the first 20 feet. When You ask them they say hey our cars hook up that run here all the time which is sort of right but the local cars most of the time don't make enough HP to spin as they are bracket cars and don't care . The national events that I have been to this year they have been using VHT and so far the hook is really great . it seems the new Starter gets it although later on in rounds when they is a schedule to be met the lack of track prep is lacking . All a person has to do is look at the bald spots . it seems the starter personnel can't see the bald spots like we can??? don't forget some cars leave soft 8:90. 9;90 and 10;90 cars . Not sure why the even need to do a Burn out ??? Also the clutch cars can slip the clutch .

I no longer pay for a test session at a track as all they do is take the money and say go run without doing one single thing to prep the track. If the track usings VP it does not work

The class cars need a track that is properly prepped to run and it is not right they have to detune the car for a unsafe track at any event . Everyone knows how to set up the car for a bad and unsafe track but should not have to do this . I laugh at the track when I see them using tools to prep the track that have been used 30 years ago . It is time the track decision makers step up and prep their unsafe track so the cars can get down the track before there are less and less cars running at their track oh wait there is less and less cars now I wonder why ???

Greg Hill 04-09-2012 11:47 AM

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You better hope they use VHT and not VP, especially when the track is cool. The VP stuff is marginal when it's hot and doesn't work at all when there is no sun on the track.

Mike Croley 04-09-2012 01:31 PM

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VHT ( PJ1 ) is the one to use , it's been the NHRA choice for decades . I sell a great deal of VHT to smaller tracks too . Good track prep requires a lot of work and a lot of knowledge . Most smaller tracks do an excellent job .

Don Kennedy 04-09-2012 04:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Croley (Post 320597)
VHT ( PJ1 ) is the one to use , it's been the NHRA choice for decades . I sell a great deal of VHT to smaller tracks too . Good track prep requires a lot of work and a lot of knowledge . Most smaller tracks do an excellent job .

I don't think NHRA has been using VHT for decades . I think just recently they changed to VHT (PJ1) from VP

Mike Croley 04-10-2012 08:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Kennedy (Post 320635)
I don't think NHRA has been using VHT for decades . I think just recently they changed to VHT (PJ1) from VP

Don ,
you must be too young to know , or like me , too old to remember . VHT has been around a long , long time , and it's been used by every major drag race association for decades .

Don Kennedy 04-10-2012 11:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Croley (Post 320765)
Don ,
you must be too young to know , or like me , too old to remember . VHT has been around a long , long time , and it's been used by every major drag race association for decades .

I know it has i know the owner of the company in scotsdale , but NHRA has or had a contract to use VP until recently , not sure now though as the traction at The Two national events i went to was good and i saw the VHT or PJ! stuff being used at Vegas but there was also of vp barell i am asuming the vp stuff was either for the local track races or left over ?

Mike Croley 04-10-2012 11:24 AM

Re: Traction Compound
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Kennedy (Post 320787)
I know it has i know the owner of the company in scotsdale , but NHRA has or had a contract to use VP until recently , not sure now though as the traction at The Two national events i went to was good and i saw the VHT or PJ! stuff being used at Vegas but there was also of vp barell i am asuming the vp stuff was either for the local track races or left over ?

The contract you're thinking of was for the race fuel , not the traction compound . NHRA has had a long standing relationship with VHT traction compound for national events . Local shows can use whatever they want i think , though many tracks use VHT then too .

Don Kennedy 04-10-2012 12:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Croley (Post 320790)
The contract you're thinking of was for the race fuel , not the traction compound . NHRA has had a long standing relationship with VHT traction compound for national events . Local shows can use whatever they want i think , though many tracks use VHT then too .

Great I guess the new starter is prepping the track differently . I think the traction at the two national events I have gone to was good

Bill Cassil 04-10-2012 12:21 PM

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I saw the VP barrels along with the PJ1 last fall at the Divisional. The VP barrels were M-1 alcohol they were surely using as cut.
BC

Monte Howard 04-10-2012 05:39 PM

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Glad they are using VHT this year.
Mike they have been using VP at National Events for the last several years, and the divisionals were up to the track, this I know for sure.


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