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Dan Fahey 04-23-2012 03:06 PM

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Does anyone remember Stan Welch?

Stan use to run a a V/S Pinto wagon years ago.

Anyone know how to contact him?

Dan

Hemi Moose 04-23-2012 03:30 PM

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Here's a news clipping of Stan's W/S pinto wagon...


http://www.colesy-juniorstockforum.c...e6883b66bf4050

Ed Fernandez 04-23-2012 03:41 PM

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Somebody should have told him he had the tires on the wrong end of the car.:>):>):>)










63 more to go.

Hemi Moose 04-23-2012 03:50 PM

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Stan also ran a Pinto hatchback...

http://www.colesy-juniorstockforum.c...e8021fffde1fc9

http://www.colesy-juniorstockforum.c...e8021fffde1fc9

David Lee 04-23-2012 04:23 PM

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are they competitive any more?

art leong 04-23-2012 05:05 PM

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Stan is one of the main reasons I race a FWD car today. The other being cost.
He and George Williams etc. Were the cars we hated to race. Every time we ran one we wore out a set of Firestone front runners.

Bob Bender 04-23-2012 07:17 PM

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Sure do ! Stan is a great guy...............

Dave Ley 04-23-2012 07:35 PM

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Stan was a television camera man. He worked with Wee Willie Webber in the Philadelphia area. I know that he was good friends with Terry Welsh who was part of the Struse/Smith/ Welsh team. Terry went with him on the Western Swing back in the 70's.

Colesy 04-24-2012 07:20 AM

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For anyone who enjoys the slower stockers, you'll appreciate our "They May Be Slow" thread. Here's the link.... http://www.colesy-juniorstockforum.c....php?f=4&t=142
Here you will find the three photos of Stan's cars posted above as well as many other photos and a couple of feature articles on Stan's Hobby Horse Pinto.

vic guilmino 04-24-2012 07:35 AM

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Really nice guy

Dan Fahey 04-24-2012 01:31 PM

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Wow..nice response

Where can I find HIM?

Would like to say hello and catch up with him.

Dan

Greg Gay 04-24-2012 05:19 PM

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Does anyone know if the first picture on this thread was taken at Epping? It sure looks like it to me.

slo stock 04-24-2012 10:08 PM

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I ran my W/SA this past weekend at Woodburn and had a blast. (the old timothy turtle car) Still have some things to learn about this Slo Stocker. Going to run it this weekend at the Summit Series race. 1 gallon of fuel and twice the seat time .

David Lee 04-24-2012 10:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by slo stock (Post 323229)
I ran my W/SA this past weekend at Woodburn and had a blast. (the old timothy turtle car) Still have some things to learn about this Slo Stocker. Going to run it this weekend at the Summit Series race. 1 gallon of fuel and twice the seat time .

Pinto?

Bob Don 04-24-2012 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg Gay (Post 323181)
Does anyone know if the first picture on this thread was taken at Epping? It sure looks like it to me.

Greg - That first pic is definitely New England Dragway.

slo stock 04-24-2012 11:46 PM

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YES.. 1976 pinto wagon

Pat Cook 04-25-2012 01:08 AM

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Does any one know what happen to Tom Rieder Pinto wagon?

bill dedman 04-25-2012 02:30 AM

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If I remember right, that car was blindingly fast (for what it was, LOL!)

He won Stock Eliminator at the NHRA Nationals back when it was a nearly new car, and if memory seves me correctly, went some 15.50's doing it.

I always wondered... with all the loosening of Stocker engine rules in the ensuing years, it seemed that almost nobody ran any quicker than HE did, back in the day...

Anybody got any ideas on that???

Paul Wong 04-25-2012 03:21 AM

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I am not for certain but if someone were to be crazy enough to spend enough to build a modern pinto with the right parts you may get close to getting a 14 second time slip. There are 10 slow cars that i would tackle before this though.

danny waters sr 04-25-2012 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 323147)
Wow..nice response

Where can I find HIM?

Would like to say hello and catch up with him.

Dan

Last i heard was somewhere in Florida.

Kenny Koonce Sr comes on here sometimes and he may know how to get up with Stan.

They used to have a Hi-Performance parts store here in Kinston , NC together ( K & S Hi -Performance)

Ellis V. Buth 04-25-2012 11:22 AM

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Slo stock, its nice to hear that you got out with the wagon. I hope it is running well.

As far as competitive Pinto's still in existence (outside of slo stock's car) there is one in D3 that is pretty competitive...and a stick shift to boot. It has not been in the 14's as some have suggested may be possible, but it has qualified at Indy every year since the rule changed to 128 quickest cars versus their index and some of those fields have been pretty stout.

Pat Cook 04-25-2012 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bill dedman (Post 323253)
If I remember right, that car was blindingly fast (for what itr was, LOL!)

He won Stck Eliminator at the NHRA Nationals back when it was a nearly new car, and if memory seves me correctly, went some 15.50's doing it.

I always wondered... with all the loosening of Stocker engine rules in the ensuing years, it seemed that almost nobody seemed to run any quicker than HE did, back in the day...

Anybody got any ideas on that???

At met Tom at the Ford Proving Grounds were I worked, pretty savy guy. When I met him he was the principal design engineer for the 2.3 engines.

rawhide 04-25-2012 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat Cook (Post 323299)
At met Tom at the Ford Proving Grounds were I worked, pretty savy guy. When I met him he was the principal design engineer for the 2.3 engines.


I talked with Tom several years ago at his business Rieder Racing. He is the main man at Precision Gear also.
regards, Roland

Bench Racer 04-25-2012 09:51 PM

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Gotta love a Pinto!! I used to look at the Pinto at Indy "Brown wagon" and hoped it kicked all the stockers ***! If it is an odd ball combo or thinking out of the box I will like it !!! With NHRA's "new" INDY get in on monday set up, obscure or thinking out of the box combo don't have a chance. I used to love to see all the "odd ball combo's" in stock and super stock but that is water under the bridge. Don Jackson

art leong 04-25-2012 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bench Racer (Post 323398)
Gotta love a Pinto!! I used to look at the Pinto at Indy "Brown wagon" and hoped it kicked all the stockers ***! If it is an odd ball combo or thinking out of the box I will like it !!! With NHRA's "new" INDY get in on monday set up, obscure or thinking out of the box combo don't have a chance. I used to love to see all the "odd ball combo's" in stock and super stock but that is water under the bridge. Don Jackson

There are still oddball combos out there that are giant killers. My 4 cylinder front wheel drive Neon took out a SS/AAA Cobra Jet at Belle Rose, in the first round of the combo automatic class. And he had a better light. This is a go fast race index to index, no shoe polish.

Steve Lackey 04-26-2012 01:53 PM

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George always said he could hear the high revving engines catching him, then an instant squeal of tires braking.

Jack Matyas 04-26-2012 02:25 PM

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I was lucky enough to be friends with Stan and "A" Welsh for about ten or so years in the Seventies when they lived near Langhorne , Pa - just outside of Philadelphia but lost track of them when they split up .Stan moved to Florida and worked at Moroso Motorsports Park and after that I lost track of him and sure would like to hear from him .

We attended many races up and down the East coast besides going to Kentucky for the Sportsnationals and then Indy - sure brings back many memories ........If you look at the picture of his Pinto SW behind it is my Dodge D600 2 car carrier that we put that wagon above the cab for long trips - plenty scary I can tell you .But his Pinto's were the best and set records many , many times .

And Stan being Stan brought his own "hot tub" to the Summernationals in 1974 .....A sure hit in July ! ! ! And the there was the "streaking " ..............we'll leave that story for another time ..................

Hemi Moose 04-26-2012 04:15 PM

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Hot Tubs...so that's what those cheap plastic swimming pools were called back then. :)

Hemi Moose 04-27-2012 12:45 PM

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Here's another pic...Buddy Ingersol's AA/MC Pinto 2.0 Turbo.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ersolpinto.jpg

bill dedman 04-27-2012 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 323696)
Here's another pic...Buddy Ingersol's AA/MC Pinto 2.0 Turbo.

He (Buddy) acquired that car from two Ford factory engineers, one of whose name was "Arnold Corn," I believe. When the Ford guys had it, it won the 1978 or
79 Gas Coupe and Sedan Nationals at Rockford Dragway, (or, was it Cordova?) beating the vaunted "Wayne County Speed Shop" Corvette, (Modified Production car) in the Final. The crowd went wild!!!

It was turning mid elevens, then. Buddy took it to the mid-to-high nines!!! There were at least two others built, Butch Ball's car from the Pacific Northwest) and George Montgomery's similar car from Ohio, before NHRA got rid of the class.

All of those cars ran over 130 mph with a turbo'd, 2-liter motor and no water injection. I don't think they even had an intercooler, but not sure about that. Car Craft had a big (several pages) article about Buddy's car, with lots of technical information.

They ran 5-speed transmissions and pulled the wheels on every gear change! NHRA didn't do itself (or, us) any favors when thy axed the class. :(

Winklovic 04-27-2012 08:39 PM

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This is Roger Olsen, from Waconia, MN, at the 2010 Brainerd LODRS event. The Pinto wagon ran a time of 16.36 seconds in qualifying.

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4010/4...a51a5151_b.jpg

Tod Lane 04-27-2012 09:20 PM

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I figured Robert Swartz would have posted this here by now....


Ken and Toby Meeks W/S record holder... Thats Bob on the far right, big goofy sasquatch looking dude

He had one of his own as well

CycloneFE 04-27-2012 10:20 PM

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Ellis Buth in 2005 in Joliet.

Mark Yacavone 04-27-2012 11:20 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsEB5Zv_6P0

Bob Bender 04-28-2012 12:15 AM

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I had a fun time with this little car.........Best ET 15.40....ran Z/S up to W/S


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