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Superfan1 04-23-2012 05:19 PM

Stock Eliminator already at quota for E-town
 
With 5 weeks to go before the entry deadline; Stock is already at quota (64) for Englishtown. The alcohol classes are not running this year at E-town, so you would think that the quota would be higher. The Super Stock quota is 90 because they have class eliminations. It seems to me that the Stock quota should at least be 80. Hopefully the NHRA will raise it.

Paul Precht 04-23-2012 05:31 PM

Re: Stock Eliminator already at quota for E-town
 
They're trying to break up with us but they're letting us down easy, wont be long now. I hope I make it back in time to enjoy a few more years. It's quite sad but I guess all good things come to an end.

Pistol Pete 04-23-2012 08:25 PM

Re: Stock Eliminator already at quota for E-town
 
Bill, I'm hoping they raise the quota too....

I only have 3 grade points.
I live 30 minutes away....
so it's very close to home for a National Event.

Jim Wahl 04-23-2012 08:35 PM

Re: Stock Eliminator already at quota for E-town
 
This is getting ridiculous. Jim


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dartman 04-23-2012 08:56 PM

Re: Stock Eliminator already at quota for E-town
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pistol Pete (Post 323051)
Bill, I'm hoping they raise the quota too....

I only have 3 grade points.
I live 30 minutes away....
so it's very close to home for a National Event.

You will still need 4 points to get in if they raise the quota.

Stock_B103 04-23-2012 09:50 PM

Re: Stock Eliminator already at quota for E-town
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dartman (Post 323059)
You will still need 4 points to get in if they raise the quota.

Only until the quota opens up for three. There was a rule change I believe. If it closes at 4, than add more spots, if 3 can get in than its open for them too! Might be confusing. So really if they add spots a person with one grade point could potentially get in if it was full at 3 (or any number)

Tom Goldman 04-23-2012 11:14 PM

Re: Stock Eliminator already at quota for E-town
 
They need the extra acre Alcohol would have taken for the Traxxis radio car display!

Bob Bender 04-24-2012 06:10 AM

Re: Stock Eliminator already at quota for E-town
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tom goldman (Post 323074)
they need the extra acre alcohol would have taken for the traxxis radio car display!


lmfao !!!!!!

BKSG1198 04-24-2012 07:57 AM

Re: Stock Eliminator already at quota for E-town
 
Tom....That's a good one and I even haven't had my 1st cup of coffee yet!!

philip miles 04-24-2012 08:12 AM

Re: Stock Eliminator already at quota for E-town
 
I used to race up there and that race always had 128 Stock Eliminator car field. I guess with all the big rigs that people have now, it uses up pit space and takes away entries. That used to be the best race to go to, even when it was 130 degrees in the pits.

Stock_B103, I pushed NHRA so much about the grade points and not allowing someone with less grade points to enter a race if there where openings, that they changed their policy about it. Their policy was school yard mentality until they changed it, now it is correct. If there is a withdrawl, they allow other racers to enter with less grade points at the given grade point window. They changed it after it was too late for me to enter the Gators.

Casey Miles
248H "F" NHRA Stock!

tpoh815 04-24-2012 04:14 PM

Re: Stock Eliminator already at quota for E-town
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Superfan1 (Post 323004)
With 5 weeks to go before the entry deadline; Stock is already at quota (64) for Englishtown. The alcohol classes are not running this year at E-town, so you would think that the quota would be higher. The Super Stock quota is 90 because they have class eliminations. It seems to me that the Stock quota should at least be 80. Hopefully the NHRA will raise it.

This is a metaphor saying "We dont need your money we take enough already. "

Bobby Fazio 04-26-2012 09:32 AM

Re: Stock Eliminator already at quota for E-town
 
Can't take that many cars at Englishtown because of the banker hours the township puts on the track. Even though there is an airport 30 feet away that flies all day and night..

Superfan1 04-26-2012 04:14 PM

Re: Stock Eliminator already at quota for E-town
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SStock1373 (Post 323495)
Can't take that many cars at Englishtown because of the banker hours the township puts on the track. Even though there is an airport 30 feet away that flies all day and night..

Bobby, I am very familiar with the curfew; but in the past the Stock quota has always been higher and, in the past, they ran both alcohol classes which they are not doing this year. Where is the logic?

Dave Ley 04-26-2012 05:15 PM

Re: Stock Eliminator already at quota for E-town
 
They do have all 3 Super classes this year. This has not been the norm.

Bernie Cunningham 04-26-2012 11:00 PM

Re: Stock Eliminator already at quota for E-town
 
Slow dilution I suppose, when I was there in '95, there were 121 stockers!

Paul Precht 04-26-2012 11:35 PM

Re: Stock Eliminator already at quota for E-town
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bernie Cunningham (Post 323611)
Slow dilution I suppose, when I was there in '95, there were 121 stockers!

Most of the time there were over 128

Ed Fernandez 04-27-2012 12:35 AM

Re: Stock Eliminator already at quota for E-town
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SStock1373 (Post 323495)
Can't take that many cars at Englishtown because of the banker hours the township puts on the track. Even though there is an airport 30 feet away that flies all day and night..

Bobby the curfew wasn't imposed by the town.It was mandated by chicken *hit judges who bent to the will of nitwits who bought homes in the area of a racetrack.



63 more to go.

philip miles 04-27-2012 09:08 AM

Re: Stock Eliminator already at quota for E-town
 
If it's a noise issue, they should mandate that all the racers use mufflers, either you are there to race or make noise. I'd prefer to race with mufflers rather then to not race at all. One of the major problems with Westhampton's closing was the noise rules put in place by the town.

Casey Miles
248H "F" NHRA Stock!

Tom Goldman 04-27-2012 09:31 AM

Re: Stock Eliminator already at quota for E-town
 
Take a look at this article in Competition Plus about pit space issues at Houston.
Pretty obvious why the space problem continues to get worse every year.
http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-...even-surprised

sst1988 04-27-2012 09:37 AM

Re: Stock Eliminator already at quota for E-town
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Goldman (Post 323664)
Take a look at this article in Competition Plus about pit space issues at Houston.
Pretty obvious why the space problem continues to get worse every year.
http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-...even-surprised

The pro pits should be for the teams racing professionally, not for the hospitality areas controlled by a handful of prominent owners and sponsors

Could not agree more!

jmcarter 04-27-2012 12:13 PM

Re: Stock Eliminator already at quota for E-town
 
Look at the sportsman pits....EVERYBODY think's they have to have the biggest rig rolling. I race out of a 24 Ft Pace pulled by a dually, which use to be a large overall rig for a sportsman, now it's one of the smallest. None of the tracks (even ones like Atlanta owned by NHRA and remember when Gainesville was one of largest facilities with good pit parking around? ) are going to invest in the infrastructure to support more pits; it just doesn't make economic sense for the 1-2 times a year it becomes an issue. I've been a long time supporter of NHRA and consider myself a glass half-full type of person but there are many indicators that NHRA's business model will move toward minimal sportsman participation at National events, and quota reduction of classses that are staff intensive, like Stock and Super Stock...

My 2 cents...

skills 04-27-2012 12:40 PM

Re: Stock Eliminator already at quota for E-town
 
From a spectators point of view, i love e-town was my first national event my dad took me to in the mid 80's. Up to three days attending now, but if they start cutting down stock/super stock i wont attend national events anymore. I always felt a little spoiled because of the quality of racers and the car counts in D1. NHRA will learn just like Nascar is learning that fans stop coming when they dont like what you do.

Superfan1 04-28-2012 02:01 PM

Re: Stock Eliminator already at quota for E-town
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Ley (Post 323572)
They do have all 3 Super classes this year. This has not been the norm.

True, it's not the norm, but they did have all 3 Super classes last year along with both alcohol classes; yet 89 Stockers were entered and made runs. You can verify this on NHRA.com. So someone explain to me why this year, with no alcohol cars, the Stock quota is 64.

Superfan1 04-28-2012 02:53 PM

Re: Stock Eliminator already at quota for E-town
 
I did a bit more research.
Last year 59 Super Stockers made runs in addition to the 89 Stockers that did the same; Stock and Super Stock entries totaled 148, there were 35 alcohol cars running, and all 3 Super classes were running.
This year the Stock quota is 64 and the Super Stock quota is 90, which totals 154 which is basically the same as last year. All 3 Super classes are running just like last year. But the big difference is that this year there won't be 35 alcohol cars taking up pit space. As I asked previously, where is the logic?


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