Best place to set record
 

It seems that the "value of national records" has diminished over the years. .I am just curious where might be the best place to set a record... Setting the national record is still a "big deal" to me (guess that is because I'm old LOL) It used to be Tucson (switched to IHRA) and Boise....also a bunch set in Kearney, NE...ATCO is wicked fast...Sonoma might be the place..."No Problem" is fast....Pomona is down hill...but National events only ..what do you think??? (For conversation purposes).

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Mission can be fast but with a May date for the D6 race it's very dependent on weather...witnessed the first 7sec. SS run there and Hemi cars use to flock to that race to put up a good number.

Valdosta has been the site of many records, SS/AH and many others. Also, any of the early D2 races can be fast when temp and unbelievable barometer readings show up.

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The best place to set a record is at a national open. Your et will not effect the AHFS unless you go 1.20 or more under.

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Great thought ..........Maybe that fact will once again make records important to more than just a few of us "old timers " .................

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I agree Jack, I cannot understand the NHRA's thinking. They should give back the 3 tenths on the indexes, and set the limit higher for the trigger point. Why cant everyone just show what they got if they want without getting penalized? As usual, its the crybabies that get what they want.

I especially dont understand the reasoning why there is such a large trigger at a National Event. I would think that the spectators in the stands that could relate to cars that look "normal" would like to see the true potential of stock and super stock cars.

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Valdosta in November

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As jmcarter said. The first D2 race or as Horace & Stephen any D2 November race. These two races should really be at Orlando or Bradenton for best results as the weather is just mine shaft. They usually include a tailwind.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA yes, it get cold in FL.

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You think there will be one at Valdosta this year Stephen? Didn't have it last year.

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Houston, in the spring.....Ooh Baby!

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No more National Opens at Valdosta since they now have a prime early Divisional date. Least what I was told. You and Stephen kinda like that place and for good reason. Westcott likes it to.

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They should take a different tact on it... you should get points and contingency for getting HP! :D Honey vs vinegar. It's strange to me how in this "performance" eliminator that often when someone goes fast, they get berated on this board. Which is it? To go fast or not to go fast? As a corollary, so many exclaim "performance!", yet find excuses to avoid any changes to class structures that might result in more heads-up runs.

Best place to set a record? How about Bristol? ;) Then you can open it up a little more without feeling too guilty.

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We used to get points for setting a record. ET record was same points as winning one round, MPH was half that. Didn't have these bogus soft indexes either. Made a bracket race out of it. About anything will run under these indexes if you have a clue at all. Don't have to be fast to go rounds any longer.

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Montgomery, AL in November/December was crazy fast. Tons of records set there back in the day.

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Yeah and it's on the same weekend as a Div.4 race. Houston in the spring can be just as fast. Went to Houston this spring in GT/B to protect HP and still went .94 under.That would be 1.19 in SS/F.

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If nobody has noticed, Jeff don't need no stinkin fast race track to set a record. LOL

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And one year it was damn cold. There were 52 records set though

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Not only was it crazy fast, they let you run all day. Just Stock & Super Stock. Run as many times as you want. The way it should be.

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Atco with out a doubt, (AKA Disneyland) for a non altitude corrected record run. Atco was built for speed!

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Atco absolutely has the weather, but they have some serious track prep issues.

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Jeff,

the div 2 man said that there would be one this year!!!

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those days are over..its IHRA now..

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Cecil County Md.Anyone with a level can tell you why.








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Well, if you want to be really impressive doing it, you can do it in August at Bowling Green, when the temperature is 95 degrees, the relative humidity is around 85%, and the barometer reads around 29.4". :cool:

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That would be impressive. Come on up and race with us in our 24.10 baro.:D

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At least that would be factored.

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And at the right time of the year it is factored too much.

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Dutch Classic at Maple Grove in mid October.

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For style points, do it like Jack......at Lebanon Valley in 95 degree heat.....

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Good job, Jack. And don't forget, Dave Casey did it with his Camaro, as well.

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I think Cecil Frazer set one there too

It is nice to have that certificate from the track where you made your first 1/4 mile run when you were 16 or 17. Also have one from New England Dragway

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Thanks Eric - Yep , style isn't a bad thing .................

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The places that have been mentioned can certainly be fast, temperature is so important. Ed mentioned Cecil County, if there was a spring or fall event there it would be incredible. As Ed alluded to, it is downhill, but so is 4wide/concord , and that place could be in the same group with cool temps and a high press system. MIR is very fast also.

sea level, cool temps, high press system and throw in a tail wind and bingo, big numbers

Yes when you set the record, you have achieved something that no one else has at that point in time, and don't forget that you also have added credibility to your run by tearing down. Setting the record doesn't (in my case in A/S) mean you have the fastest car in the class. Last year I was 4th out of 5 fastest at Indy in my class. Winning class at Indy when there are tough cars in attendance is still very important on the performance meter.

Best place to set a record, my favorite is Maple Grove, nice facility to tear down at and the dutch is a big event and can be fast, it is not the fastest though.

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I'm always impressed by records that are set in less than ideal conditions, so any record set in July or August at a non-factored track always impresses me.

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I think since a select few CRIED about altitude tracks and got the % changed on the correction factors for a few tracks its time to start sending letters to NHRA about Records being set at National Opens with Bogus Conditions and maybe NHRA should do a reverse factor for tracks with a Sealevel or below condition with a 31 Bar. whats fair is fair right !! : )

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I agree 100%. but don't stop there. Make the ahfs system on the same sliding scale.
We know darn well they can do it. They check the temperature of the fuel don't they?

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Suffolk VA - 1st week in November. The Little Guy Open

Sorry, just like remembering the "Good Old Days"

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Well, I started this thread, so I might as well add some fuel to the fire...LOL... In yesteryear the final round counted as a record run. Right or wrong??? If nothing less, it helped eliminate the "soft combos"....it kind of worked like the AFS today. What about any "heads up" run in a National Event triggers a National Record (and tear down)....again, for conversation purposes only.

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At the right time, when the barometer tips slightly above 30.05 and first session in the morning at either Woodburn Oregon, Seattle Washington or Mission British Columbia, it can be mind boggling. I have been there at all three tracks here in Division Six. All three tracks are within about 175 ft of sea level with lots of oxygen in the air. All the time and effort you put into your combo is rewarded and the fix you get from drag racing lasts well into the next week. Ha Ha.

Gary Howe 6322 SS/N and GT/L and K

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How do you guys feel about someone's hard earned, well deserved, national record being wiped out by the "minimum" after a length of time goes by? I have no dog in this fight, but I always thought a record should stand until its truly broken by a quicker or faster car. My 2 cents.
Danny Durham

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That worked pretty well too.