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Bob Pagano 05-23-2012 10:00 AM

Stein's Black 63 found
 
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Sold back in the 80s and gone who knows where. I got an email from a guy wanting to know if he had the real thing. He dose ! Car is in PA

stage1scott 05-23-2012 11:52 AM

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wow-that's cool!

Charlie A 05-23-2012 12:20 PM

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Now that is cool.

Lyn Smith 05-23-2012 12:57 PM

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Is that hole in the firewall from a torqflite mishap???

2percenter 05-23-2012 02:50 PM

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Looks like the car has a Four speed hump cover and boot flange. I would think that it is a automatic trans behind that crime scene though. A flywheel/clutch explosion would be more severe.

Tom Goldman 05-23-2012 09:19 PM

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Bob, I just learned that car is only about 10 miles from me !
I was looking for a D date code trans for a '63 Max Wedge restoration ,when a friend told me about it.
There are more real Max Wedge cars per square mile around here than most people can believe, I know of at least 7 in a 10 mile radius from me!

Bob Pagano 05-24-2012 10:02 AM

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Tom you are right, there are a few up there. Oh yea trans let go in burn out box at Island and sounded like a gernade went off under my feet !
Not a 4 speed, car came with 3 speed on floor, later changed to an auto.

Hemi Moose 05-25-2012 03:00 PM

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Nice find there...I take it that this was your old car at one time...also do you know if the current owner is restoring it now.

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...0&d=1337781524

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...4&d=1337640952

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...7&d=1337781524

Bob Pagano 05-25-2012 06:39 PM

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I drove for Stein in 1973, had both cars. The owner wanted to talk to Jerry so I put him in touch with him, have not talked to either yet. Alum car, I would restore it, worth a bunch more than he paid back in the 80s

GRAPE 05-25-2012 07:04 PM

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Is It a ORIG Alum car or was it added latter?

Bob Pagano 05-26-2012 09:09 AM

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Its an early 63 steel car Max Wedge with Alum added when it came availible.

Hemi Moose 05-26-2012 01:55 PM

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Here's an oldie of the '63 Plymouth...

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...6&d=1204941113

Charlie A 05-26-2012 03:21 PM

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What's with the stripes on the early chrysler headers/collectors ?
They were on the dodge here as well?
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1.../untitled2.jpg

Liteweight 05-26-2012 10:26 PM

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Thyose painted stripes might be an old racers trick. Where the paint stops burning is where the max temp is.. This is where you'd cut the tube for best torque effiencency.

liteweight

Charlie A 05-27-2012 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Liteweight (Post 328397)
Thyose painted stripes might be an old racers trick. Where the paint stops burning is where the max temp is.. This is where you'd cut the tube for best torque effiencency.

liteweight

Used to use a crayon to do that. Mark a line the length of the collector and where it melted away was supposed to be the proper length for the collector.
Don't know if it worked or not but that is where we cut 'em.
Ran better with than without.
Not quite as colorful as the two above!

Rich Biebel 05-27-2012 08:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 328347)
Here's an oldie of the '63 Plymouth...

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...6&d=1204941113

Looks like Island Dragway but maybe a few years earlier than I was showing up there on a regular basis....

Jerry was from the same town I lived in for a while and I think he still lives there. I ran into him a few years ago near where I work in a hardware/tool store. He was a great racer in his day and very competitive.....

He loved to throw a football around while waiting in the lanes to race......

Well he was a Phys Ed teacher for many years so thats no surprise....

mopar68 05-29-2012 11:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Pagano (Post 327892)
Sold back in the 80s and gone who knows where. I got an email from a guy wanting to know if he had the real thing. He dose ! Car is in PA

Cool!

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/1...wsvol1no32.jpg

Which car is this then?

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...postcount=2592

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...postcount=2600

M68

chris ok 05-30-2012 09:32 AM

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Correct me if I'm wrong.
I think I remember seeing a red Teachers Pet car at the ETown divisional some 6 or 7 years ago maybe it was.
Watching Stock Qualifying that Friday morning was a drag racing highlite for me. So many cars seemed to be a lil dusty and are probably only out once or twice a year. Stock and Super Stock qualifying just kept going and going, sooo many cars. best Friday morning I've ever had. Stood under the tower w sunglasses to keep from losing an eye from the burnout box rocks a kicking. those engines were singing some great songs that a.m.

Dennis P Chapman 05-30-2012 10:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chris ok (Post 328986)
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I think I remember seeing a red Teachers Pet car at the ETown divisional some 6 or 7 years ago maybe it was.
Watching Stock Qualifying that Friday morning was a drag racing highlite for me. So many cars seemed to be a lil dusty and are probably only out once or twice a year. Stock and Super Stock qualifying just kept going and going, sooo many cars. best Friday morning I've ever had. Stood under the tower w sunglasses to keep from losing an eye from the burnout box rocks a kicking. those engines were singing some great songs that a.m.

If I remember there were two red cars one a 63 and one a 64.

Bob Pagano 05-30-2012 11:17 AM

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Stein replaced the black 63 some years later with a red one, the 64 was always red.
The lady claming to have Steins car is miss informed, it was not dammaged in a towing acident, it was hit in the pits at a points meet at E-town and repaired. It was sold to Wes Coleman of Paterson, NJ then to Ben Lawson, Ben sold it to the Now Owner in PA with the Alum. still on the car. Her car has red interior witch is not correct either.

sskwb 05-30-2012 12:00 PM

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I understand there is a teacher pet alum nosed car in the Slatington PA area, possibly White ??

Hemi Moose 05-30-2012 01:05 PM

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M68, here's the news clip enlarged...

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...0&d=1241632599

Bob Pagano 05-30-2012 06:17 PM

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63 not white, it is still black as found, just as I ran it less the coleman & pagano

http://classracer.com/classforum/pic...pictureid=3613

The white car may be Ron Reiman's {spelling} car, it is a 64

sskwb 05-31-2012 08:38 AM

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i have to do some digging, it's been a couple of years since i talked to the owner last, not sure why i thought it is white.
The car I'm talking about is owned by a union pipe fitter in the slatington/lehighton PA area,i don't think i can/should drop his name. i"m pretty sure it's a 63 and a documented Teacher's Pet car and he has owned for 20-25 yrs, maybe it is the same black car.
as you can tell I'm just a novice how many teacher pet cars were there?

Bob Pagano 05-31-2012 12:36 PM

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Only 3 sedans black 63 in my first post in this thread, 64 red and a second 63 built to replace the black one. he also ran a couple of station wagons. I think the guy you are talking about also has Lau's Raider a 64 dodge.

sskwb 05-31-2012 02:27 PM

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I'm out of town this week, will do some digging when i get back ,pretty sure he owns just the one car.

mopar68 05-31-2012 07:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sskwb (Post 329146)
i have to do some digging, it's been a couple of years since i talked to the owner last, not sure why i thought it is white.
The car I'm talking about is owned by a union pipe fitter in the slatington/lehighton PA area,i don't think i can/should drop his name. i"m pretty sure it's a 63 and a documented Teacher's Pet car and he has owned for 20-25 yrs, maybe it is the same black car.
as you can tell I'm just a novice how many teacher pet cars were there?

The only white car that I ever seen Jerry with was a station wagon. I forget which year it was--1963 or 64--I do know the difference :) I just can't recall at this moment. The car was all white, no decals. I saw it run in time trials and in the first round in the eliminations vs. Todd Iforgethislastname's restored ex-Tritak & Morgan War Wagon, one late summer afternoon and evening at Island Dragway circa 1990-'91. I remember the date 'cause it was the very first time I ever visited Island Dragway.

M68

mopar68 05-31-2012 07:18 PM

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"This is one of Jerry Stein’s [TEACHER’S PET] old S/S cars."

http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.c...raceman63.html

M68

mopar68 05-31-2012 07:30 PM

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http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w.../petgators.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g...1/ned53-ps.jpg

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/i...daPIDtruby.jpg

Who's that very suspicious-looking guy eyeballing Jerry's car? :)

M68

Steve Stasko 05-31-2012 09:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Pagano (Post 329180)
Only 3 sedans black 63 in my first post in this thread, 64 red and a second 63 built to replace the black one. he also ran a couple of station wagons. I think the guy you are talking about also has Lau's Raider a 64 dodge.

I have the Lau Raider '64 Dodge.

If we are thinking of the same person, he has what is left of Kenny's '63 Plymouth.

Charlie A 06-01-2012 07:58 AM

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Note the "Stein & Pagano" on the trailer in the backgroung.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/i...daPIDtruby.jpg

Bob Pagano 06-01-2012 12:34 PM

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Its not Monk, its Mike Bianco my good friend, he is making sure I get the tire pressure right !

Charlie A 06-01-2012 04:44 PM

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How much fun was it to drag that car/trailer around behind a stationwagon?
Did you have to go to the proctologist every week to get the seat cover removed from between the cheeks?

Bob Pagano 06-01-2012 06:33 PM

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Never had a problem, used that setup for most points meets and motorhome when we went to Canada. 383 pulled like a bear and it was a stick too.

mopar68 06-01-2012 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bob pagano (Post 329333)
its not monk, its mike bianco my good friend, he is making sure i get the tire pressure right !

:)

m68

Hemi Moose 06-02-2012 11:06 AM

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What years did the transmission switch happen...I see a Rossi decal on the fender.

http://classracer.com/classforum/pic...pictureid=3613

Bob Pagano 06-02-2012 11:14 AM

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Trans was changed in the mid sixties. When I ran the cars they had B&M J converters I first changed the 64 to a Rossi in 73

Tom Goldman 06-03-2012 06:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Pagano (Post 329180)
Only 3 sedans black 63 in my first post in this thread, 64 red and a second 63 built to replace the black one. he also ran a couple of station wagons. I think the guy you are talking about also has Lau's Raider a 64 dodge.

But Jerry used enough front seats for a dozen more cars with his patented body slam launch!

Bob Pagano 06-04-2012 10:31 AM

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Dont know how many he broke but I broke one in 73 and went in the back seat

Hemi Moose 09-01-2012 03:37 PM

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I came across this old news clipping...where was this.

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7...rvsteacher.jpg


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